wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Alex Shneyderman
So, I wonder if there is anything I am not seeing? Anyone has a comparisson map of wicket vs tapestry? Alex. PS: I like both frameworks for their lightness I just feel that I will need to stick with one to be pragmatic :-( -

wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Erik Dreyer
extend WOComponent, > > WebPage or what ever. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think all frameworks will use the annotations in > > the future; the question > > > is when is available. > > > > > > T5 does and it's ready. > > > > > &

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Eelco Hillenius
gt; > From my limited experiments with both, wicket and tapestry seem to be > quite similar. So, I wonder if there is anything I am not seeing? > Anyone has a comparisson map of wicket vs tapestry? The best thing you can do is give them both a spin. They are quite different really; I'm sure

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Xavier Hanin
milar. So, I wonder if there is anything I am not seeing? > Anyone has a comparisson map of wicket vs tapestry? > > Alex. > > PS: I like both frameworks for their lightness I just feel that I will > need to stick with one to be pragmatic :-( > > --

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Swaroop Belur
Hi I have been using wicket for quite some time now. Prior to this I worked on tapestry for a short time . (In fact i implemented the same pages which i did in tapestry in wicket also) I may not be able to give you the right answer but i can definitely say this the learning curve in tapestry i

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Andrew Klochkov
Eelco Hillenius wrote: You can download the first chapter of Wicket In Action for free here: http://manning.com/dashorst/ and some chapters of Tapestry In Action Wow, Wicket In Action, we're all were waiting for it :-) Is this early access edition mature enough to buy or it's better to wait?

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Johan Compagner
il to see what the differences > are? > > From my limited experiments with both, wicket and tapestry seem to be > quite similar. So, I wonder if there is anything I am not seeing? > Anyone has a comparisson map of wicket vs tapestry? > > Alex. > > PS: I like both frameworks for t

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> Eelco Hillenius wrote: > > You can download the first chapter of Wicket In Action for free here: > > http://manning.com/dashorst/ and some chapters of Tapestry In Action > > > > > Wow, Wicket In Action, we're all were waiting for it :-) > Is this early access edition mature enough to buy or it's

RE: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Chris Colman
22 August 2007 7:00 PM > To: users@wicket.apache.org > Subject: Re: wicket vs tapestry ? > > > Eelco Hillenius wrote: > > > You can download the first chapter of Wicket In Action for free here: > > > http://manning.com/dashorst/ and some chapters of Tapestry In Action &

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/22/07, Chris Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Eelco, > > I saw you mention Hibernate in the intro but I've been using JPOX with > great success with Wicket also. You might want to mention that in the > book or new comers might think Wicket is a Hibernate only framework. > > I use JPOX th

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Martijn Dashorst
You mean the wicket-phonebook? Martijn -- Wicket joins the Apache Software Foundation as Apache Wicket Apache Wicket 1.3.0-beta2 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0-beta2/ - To unsubscribe,

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/22/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean the wicket-phonebook? Yeah. Eelco - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Matej Knopp
n Java. You don't need to extend WOComponent, > > > WebPage or what ever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think all frameworks will use the annotations in > > > the future; the question > > > > is when is available. >

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Onno Scheffers
You can download the first chapter of Wicket In Action for free here: http://manning.com/dashorst/ and some chapters of Tapestry In Action here: http://manning.com/lewisship/ Actually, Tapestry in Action is pretty old and covers only Tapestry 3. I would advice downloading chapters 1-4 of 'En

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> I personally feel more in control with Tapestry since every part of the > framework can be tweaked, overridden and enhanced easily once you know > your way around the framework Wicket can be tweaked in every imaginable way either, but some things are easier than others. > and you have full cont

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-22 Thread Onno Scheffers
Unfortunately, that's an assumption that many people make. But say that you're not worried about optimizing and one session means about 100kb (on the high side, as with optimizing in my experience you should be able to bring that to 15-30kb)... That means you can support 10,000 concurrent sessio

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> But since I'm currently learning, I can't help wondering at each step > where the data gets stored magically. Likely that will go away once I > know my way around Wicket. It's also not a complaint, just part of > getting to know the best way of doing things. I think it's a very good idea you hav

RE: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-23 Thread Chris Colman
> On 8/22/07, Chris Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Eelco, > > > > I saw you mention Hibernate in the intro but I've been using JPOX with > > great success with Wicket also. You might want to mention that in the > > book or new comers might think Wicket is a Hibernate only framework. > >

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-23 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On 8/22/07, Onno Scheffers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It's ok to be a control freak about it. But you should measure, not go > > by your hunch. :) > > > > You're right of course. > But since I'm currently learning, I can't help wondering at each step > where the data gets stored magically.

Re: wicket vs tapestry ?

2007-08-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
> > If you're interested, a contribution for the address book example with > > exPOJO/ JPOX would be more than welcome. > > Definitely, not a problem. When do you need it by? Whenever you feel like it. > Where can I find the spec for the address book app? No spec, only code :) https://wicket-st

RE: wicket vs tapestry ? (Back Button Detection-Support)

2007-08-23 Thread William Hoover
: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: wicket vs tapestry ? Hi, > 2) I like the back button support. My thinking is that extending Wicket's > AJAX integration to also support the back button (somehow) is a must. > Virtually everyone who uses Wicket will use it's AJAX functionalit

Re: wicket vs tapestry ? (Back Button Detection-Support)

2007-08-23 Thread Eelco Hillenius
On 8/23/07, William Hoover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Possible starting point for a client solution for back button > detection/support: > > http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2005/10/26/ajax-handling-bookmarks-and-back-button.html?page=1 Thanks for suggesting. We have discussed that and other