The metrication of the entire world is inevitable. So, giving up is
meaningless. CALTRANS or no CALTRANS, The victory of SI has already been
won.
Dear Mr. Herritt,
While I grant that I am not a California resident, I am an American who,
since 1974, has supported U.S. transition to the SI metric standard of
measurement. Your agency's intention to roll back 11 years of progress by
canceling its metrication program could be a damaging blow to
The Republican party of 1988 was quite different from that of 2004. Lots
more moderates, lots more people with an international view of things. The
neoconservatives and cultural conservatives had not yet taken over.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What leadership? The USMA will find out where the approval meeting will
take place and then make sure they are on the other side of the world.
Maybe to Australia. So, members, pay up your dues, the airfare is not
cheap.
Euric
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From: "Jason Darfus" <[EMAIL PROTECT
While I am not a Republican, I would find it hard to support your
arguments. The executive order directing all federal agencies to
convert to metric was issued by a Republican - George H.W. Bush. There
are many powerful corporate interests lobbying FOR adoption of the
metric system - especially
> This is total bovine scat, but since it is not metric related, I'll
refrain
> from a detailed response. Euric, I suggest you buy and read "Basic
> Economics," by Thomas Sowell, a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution,
> Stanford University. Available at Amazon.com. You may not agree with all
h
You need to also consider:
1. A well-funded campaign to recall the Governor, started by conservative
Republicans, began last year.
2. The person who initially funded the petition was suddenly no longer the
prime candidate.
3. A new prime candidate came out of nowhere.
4. The Karl Rove admin
This week the College moved its display of antique scientific instruments from
the library to a lobby in our Science Center. Being the lucky sort, I got to
be the local receiving representative. In preparation I was handed a sketch
that had been drawn up to indicate the planned placement of the
TEA-21 is currently up for reauthorization. It has been postponed over
and over again since last year. Once it's approved, we're stuck for
another 6 years. Is the USMA leadership involved in this at all?
Jason D.
On Aug 27, 2004, at 18:09, Euric wrote:
You are all wasting your time! Yes, do
The reversion of these states is not a tragedy. The
tragedy was not keeping the original date, punishing those who didn't
comply by with-holding of highway funds, and not forcing metrication to the
lowest level. The states like California were backed into a corner
with zero support from th
Notice though, the government documents refers to them only as "units", not
a system or system of units. USC does not comprise a system. Even if some
people think it is a system.
Euric
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From: "Phil Chernack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL
Someone else also once said: "Kill the head and the body dies". This simple
statement shows us that the world is divided into those who rule and those
who are ruled. If you want to make an effective fight, you have to convince
those that rule that it is in our best interests to effect a more stro
Hello Everyone. That is
really to bad about Cal. going back to inch pound. I never thought they
would do it. Does this mean that New Yourk is the only state still using
metric? If so how long will it be before they go back. When the FWHA made
metric volumtary they opened the door for this
Amen! And I'm just picking this up on my laptop in the hotel room now,
and still reacting.
Nat
To give up is to admit that you are incapable of continuing. While there
is still breath in me and my PC is still connected to the Internet and
working, it is worth continuing the fight to bring the
Phil Chernack wrote:
>They are actually referred to as "customary units in use in the U.S." or
>U.S. customary. This is the way NIST and most laws refer to them. It
>allows for the difference between Imperial and U.S.
>
>I prefer to call them "non-metric units" or DMA (dumb-ass units)
>
That's
I meant DMU for dumb-ass units.
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From: Phil Chernack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 7:43 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 'U.S. Metric Association'
Subject: RE: [USMA:30874] Re: "English" Units (was Re: Re: Arnie)
They are actually referred to as "
They are actually referred to as "customary units in use in the U.S." or
U.S. customary. This is the way NIST and most laws refer to them. It
allows for the difference between Imperial and U.S.
I prefer to call them "non-metric units" or DMA (dumb-ass units)
Phil
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Fr
I prefer to call "English" units U.S. Imperial.
They are the U.S. version of Imperial units, which differ somewhat from
British Imperial.
Jim Elwell wrote:
At 27 08 04, 04:46 PM, David King wrote:
May I ask why so many Americans refer to imperial units as "English
units"? They did not originate
To give up is to admit that you are incapable of continuing. While there
is still breath in me and my PC is still connected to the Internet and
working, it is worth continuing the fight to bring the world to full
metrication and get rid of FFU once and for all, to have a system of
measurement w
At 27 08 04, 04:46 PM, David King wrote:
May I ask why so many Americans refer to imperial units as "English
units"? They did not originate with the English, they are not all the same
as the imperial units used in England and as the UK is officially metric I
would think that the inch-pound-foot
At 27 08 04, 04:02 PM, mavi fibe wrote:
Why keep fighting? That's the conclusion I arrived at
with this incredibly stupid decision. If the ones who
were at the forefront of bringing progress to the US
when it comes to the SI system gave up, what else can
ANYONE, realistically do???
Forget it!...
May I ask why so many Americans refer to imperial units as "English
units"? They did not originate with the English, they are not all the
same as the imperial units used in England and as the UK is officially
metric I would think that the inch-pound-foot etc. units used in the USA
would be bett
Arnold may have been born and raised in a metric country, but he is now
totally Americanised. I'm sure if you asked him his opinion, you'd get a
response of support for English units from him. Most immigrants try to
conform and go out of their way to become familiar with FFU. Some
immigrants ref
It isn't a matter of giving up, it a matter of applying the pressure where
it will do the most good.
Writing letters to those who have no jurisdiction in the matter or who have
been pressured to revert are going to ignore the letters written by metric
zealots who have no faces. To do the most goo
--- "Hillger, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Now, some good news:
>...
> Attached is an image of the label from a bottle of
> orange juice by Dole
> that is a 450 mL fill. The metric size is
> intentional in that it is
> also 15.2 fl oz. Otherwise I would expect it to be
> 15 fl oz and
> so
Don't forget as well that the Governor grew up in a metric country, Austria.
And you could ask him to "terminate" the backward thinking move to
imperial units.
David King
John Nichols wrote:
Write to Arnie instead.
Dear Governor,
I am very sad to learn that CAL-TRANS is about to waste a small fo
Why keep fighting? That's the conclusion I arrived at
with this incredibly stupid decision. If the ones who
were at the forefront of bringing progress to the US
when it comes to the SI system gave up, what else can
ANYONE, realistically do???
Forget it!... I give up.
Marcus
--- "Hillger, Don
You are all wasting your time! Yes, do write to the top, but to the top in
DC, the Federal Highway Administration. The only thing that fill end the
reversions is a top down decree.
Better yet, the USMA should find a friend in government and work to have the
following achieved:
1.) Remove the pr
ca2.doc;ca1.doc
I have scanned and recognized the files with OCR software. If you are
going to use them, please check against the original as I do not have time
to do that.
John Nichols BE, Ph.D. (Newcastle), MIE (Aust), Chartered Professional
Engineer
Assistant Professor
Texas A&M Universit
Can someone help John Mercer? The Caltrans
PDF file as far as I can determine was scanned and has not generated from a
text document, thus the Text Tool in Adobe does not grab any text, otherwise I
would extract it for John.
Can someone either find the same
information so that John can
Hit them at the top, come on lets us write to them via their contact site,
http://www.dot.ca.gov/writeus.htm
Dear Sir,
Out of courtesy I send you a copy of the message I sent the Governor, I
suspect you may get a few more like this, as the Gov will, as there are a
lot of keen metric people here i
After having read the Department's decision at
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/oppd/metric/metricpg.htm, I was quite
disappointed to find that 10 YEARS after successfully converting to the
metric system, the Department now wants to waste taxpayer dollars to
revert back to an archaic engineering syste
Write to Arnie instead.
Dear Governor,
I am very sad to learn that CAL-TRANS is about to waste a small fortune in
tax payers funds converting from the metric system adopted in 1993 to the
Imperial Units system. Perhaps you could explain why Children learn metric
in school and at University, but
Title: FW: Metric to English conversion - good luck
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From: Hu, Alfred
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Metric to English conversion - good luck
Hello Kevi
The
California Department of Transportation (Caltrans) has made the ill-advised
decision to revert back to the use of inch-pound units. See:
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/oppd/design/metric-to-english-transition.pdf
This memorandum lists a Web page for those
who wish to write Caltrans.
Han, sir:
Lucky, I had several messages 3 days ago from EURIC with huge attachments.
Here is a link on some of my works uploaded at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
on India's contributions:
http://www.the-light.com/cal/bbv_IndiaContributes.doc
These are priimarily some among my discussions on calendar reform
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