[USMA:45009] Re: The true state of the USMA list......

2009-05-03 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
If this is suppose to be a forum on what is being done, well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that very little if anything is being done.  At least not out in the open where the consumer is and since the consumer is also the worker, I doubt there is much being done in the work place. 

[USMA:45000] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ntainers) --- On Sat, 2/5/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44989] RE: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Saturday, 2 May, 2009, 1:05 PM Well, as times get tougher and costs rise, they may feel the urge to downsize the 1.136 L to a 1 L.   Al

[USMA:44999] RE: Stephen's use of pseudonyms

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
As much as Stephen loves to exchange personal data in personal off list emails, it has never benefited him.  I also believe that most of those "new" posters on the MVI forum are Stephen clones and also that he is involved in the administration of that site.  If Stephen lived in the US and did

[USMA:44998] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
With regard to 500 ml & 568 ml based packages, I don't know the exact percentages throughout the UK. I would guess that at least 2/3 are based on 568ml. --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44972] RE: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Ass

[USMA:44997] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ading. IMO, "450 g 1 lb" would be OK. "400 g 1 lb" wouldn't be allowed. --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44970] Re: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 10:16 PM It just se

[USMA:44990] Re: Breech of FPLA law

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
few other reasons), the individual package does not need to comply.  If the outer package of the collection complies, then the individual package need not.  So it may not be a violation. --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44980] Breech of FPLA la

[USMA:44989] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
shouldn't disappear, now that prescribed quantities are gone..  Depends I suppose on whether manufacturers still think they have an economic advantage to produce packaging in both metric and imperial sizes. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S. Metric Association

[USMA:44988] RE: Supplementary indications

2009-05-02 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ys.   John F-L - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 12:12 AM Subject: [USMA:44978] RE: Supplementary indications Aside from milk, are there any other products sold in supermarkets in the UK?  One gets the impression that a

[USMA:44984] Re: Increased scientific research funding.

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:50:36 PM Subject: [USMA:44931] Re: Increased scientific research funding. On 2009/05/01, at 8:16 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: How would funding scientific research help the metrication effort?  Since Science is already met

[USMA:44983] Re: Breech of FPLA law

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
: Friday, May 1, 2009 10:30:19 PM Subject: [USMA:44982] Re: Breech of FPLA law Unless there are complaints, people who mark their product in metric only are not prosecuted. I've seen several products that were marked in metric only and not in dual indications. Jim Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: &

[USMA:44981] Re: Stephen's use of pseudonyms on other sites

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Thanks for the links Ken.  I found this particular one amusing: Henry Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 1 Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:29 am    Post subject: Stimpy wrote: ..and yes you probably get the picture now - we have me posting - then Lee clinging on t

[USMA:44979] Re: Stephen's use of pseudonyms on other sites

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
I wonder why Stephen doesn't post his frustrations here for all of the USMA posters to see.  Yes, I would agree strongly that Stephen's sinister actions have brought this site down.  But that is true of every forum Stephen has been a member of.  Eventually they all close down and all because o

[USMA:44978] RE: Supplementary indications

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Aside from milk, are there any other products sold in supermarkets in the UK?  One gets the impression that all one can buy is milk.  In the US  our shelves are stocked with thousands of different items.  What about the UK?  Don't they have thousands of different items for sale too?  And aren'

[USMA:44976] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
s --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44946] RE: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 3:38 AM Is there really a need to mark a non-returnable milk carton as 1.136 L?  Why not just mark it as 1.1

[USMA:44973] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
age weight purposes) and compared with the larger nominal quantity. For example, if a batch of packages had been marked "1 lb 453 g" in 1993 and the average of the batch was 453.6 g, it would pass the average test.. If the average was 453.5 g, it would fail.  --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Jer

[USMA:44972] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
  Only glass bottles are used for "milk in returnable containers"   This means that 92.1% of UK milk is packed in metric. Only 7.9% is packed in imperial. From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44940] RE: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Friday, 1 May, 2009, 3:19 A

[USMA:44971] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
to be a 450 g package with a "1 lb" supplementary indication. A batch of the product would have to average 450 g or more. --- On Fri, 1/5/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44939] Re: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Friday,

[USMA:44970] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
f the Customary declaration to metric and comparing them is pretty trivial. --- On Thu, 4/30/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44942] Re: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 11:25 PM But many still do.  The t

[USMA:44969] Re: Increased scientific research funding.

2009-05-01 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ic research funding.   On 2009/05/01, at 8:16 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: How would funding scientific research help the metrication effort?  Since Science is already metric, there would be no need to spend money on something already accomplished.    Dear Jerry,   You might have missed this ar

[USMA:44946] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
rs") --- On Wed, 29/4/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44909] RE: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, 3:17 AM This brings to mind a question as to how these milk bottles are filled in the factory.  Do

[USMA:44945] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
.S. Metric Association" Date: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 11:23 PM I think that has been answered, 5 km intervals, the half and the final time are recorded.   With the use of chips, times can only be taken at official stations that have the special mats to read the chips.--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Jer

[USMA:44944] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
It is good to know that the pint of milk is disappearing in the UK.  Must be due to low demand. Jerry From: Ken Cooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:51:34 PM Subject: [USMA:44932] RE: FPLA 2010 So, by Stephen's reckoning, a w

[USMA:44943] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Funny how Stephen always leaves out the important information. Jerry From: Ken Cooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:35:20 PM Subject: [USMA:44928] RE: FPLA 2010 Stephen said "You are already aware that milk in supermarkets an

[USMA:44942] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
But many still do.  The typical 12 ounce soda can is labeled as 355 mL, which is more then 12 ounces so technically the metric declaration becomes the primary standard.  The converted numbers should always be rounded up that metric then is the primary standard. It must be a living hell for an

[USMA:44941] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
; jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:29:19 PM Subject: Re: [USMA:44890] RE: FPLA 2010 They haven't delivered doorstep milk in over a decade in my local area. The last guy that did it couldn't get a buyer for his business. --- On Mon, 27/4/09, Jeremiah MacGreg

[USMA:44940] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
What is the percentage of milk sold in increments of 568 mL compared to 500 mL? Jerry From: Ken Cooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:24:02 PM Subject: [USMA:44925] RE: FPLA 2010 Martin Technically, milk in returnable containe

[USMA:44939] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
So technically a product marked as 450 g 1 lb would be tested to 450 g and the 1 lb ignored. Jerry From: Ken Cooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 6:18:12 PM Subject: [USMA:44924] Re: FPLA 2010 Gene I think that you may have mi

[USMA:44923] Re: Increased scientific research funding.

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
How would funding scientific research help the metrication effort?  Since Science is already metric, there would be no need to spend money on something already accomplished.  Jerry From: Scott Hudnall To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Wednesday, April 29,

[USMA:44922] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-30 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
f his relatives regularly compete in the Flora Marathon? I'll maybe see if I can dig out a picture of competitors passing one of the (metric) timing locations.--- On Sat, 25/4/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44834] RE: Boston Marathon results in metricTo:

[USMA:44917] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-29 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ts in metric I think that has been answered, 5 km intervals, the half and the final time are recorded.   With the use of chips, times can only be taken at official stations that have the special mats to read the chips.--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor

[USMA:44916] Re: Liberia and the metric system

2009-04-29 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
How old are the gasoline pumps? Jerry   From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:39:11 AM Subject: [USMA:44912] Liberia and the metric system Dear All, Recently, I heard that a senior educational researcher had been

[USMA:44910] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-28 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
s in Building >    Design and Construction (Committee E-6 Supplement to E 380) uses the >    -re spelling throughout (see attached scan). > >    John F-L > >        - Original Message - >        *From:* Jeremiah MacGregor >        <mailto:jeremiahmacgre...@rocketm

[USMA:44909] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-28 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
This brings to mind a question as to how these milk bottles are filled in the factory.  Do the machines that fill them use pints or litres?  I would assume litres, and if I'm correct, then what excellent machines they must be to measure the contents to the accuracy of 1 mL without any variance.

[USMA:44908] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-28 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
the chips.--- On Tue, 4/28/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44902] RE: Boston Marathon results in metricTo: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 6:15 PM Are there any points where the runner is officially timed?  It doesn't

[USMA:44904] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-28 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
That is what you can expect if you just send it blindly to some stranger.  Something of this importance needs to be hand delivered.  Make an appointment to see someone from the NIST who would have the most influence and not only just hand it to him, but discuss it with him. Jerry __

[USMA:44903] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-28 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Well, then it is time to find someone else to certify the course.  Send him the message that if he can't do it the right way, then his services are not needed.  Jerry   From: Harry Wyeth To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Tuesd

[USMA:44902] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-28 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
tres or so that I had the feeling that I was going to win."   Yes, the winner thought in metric.    Jerry From: "Kim, Rich (ECY)" To: Jeremiah MacGregor ; U.S. Metric Association Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 1:12:52 PMSubject: RE: [USMA:44785] RE: Boston Marathon results in

[USMA:44890] RE: FPLA 2010

2009-04-27 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
But isn't the requirement for milk in pints (568 mL) limited to those glass bottles delivered only at ones door? Do you know approximately how many people still purchase milk from a milkman? Jerry From: Martin Vlietstra To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Mon

[USMA:44889] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-27 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
What is it then? Jerry From: Patrick Moore To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:23:58 PM Subject: [USMA:44883] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10 -re is not SI. From: Jeremiah MacGregor Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25

[USMA:44888] Re: Fw: Re: RE: Metric Act of 1866, was IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-27 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
/ASTM SI-10 On Sunday 26 April 2009 22:35:41 Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: > I wonder if the original meaning of the word tonneau derived from the > words tonne-eau which would mean a "tonne of water", as the word eau in > French means water and a tonneau was a cask or container that

[USMA:44887] Re: FPLA 2010 as FPLA-4-24.pdf

2009-04-27 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
The law would go into effect at midnight 2010-01-01 00:00:00 So it is 2010 and not 2009 Jerry From: "mholm...@bellsouth.net" To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: mech...@illinois.edu Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:18:24 AM Subject: [USMA:44880] Re: FPLA 2010 as FP

[USMA:44878] Re: Fw: Re: RE: Metric Act of 1866, was IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-26 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Wikipedia says: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonneau Its original (now archaic) use was for an open rear passenger compartment on an automobile and, by extension, a body style incorporating such a compartment. The word comes originally from French, roughly meaning cask, container, or cover..

[USMA:44873] Green Valley group wants I-19 metric signs kept

2009-04-26 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/290334 It seems there is a group of locals who want to keep the metric signs on I-19. Excerpt from the article:   "These signs that were installed some 30 years ago contribute to the history of the area when conversion to the metric system was being considered,"

[USMA:44866] Re: Horse deaths in Florida

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Two of us, myself and Martin already touched on this.  I am wondering how the news media will handle this when it comes out that the American practice of not using a zero to precede a decimal number less then one was the cause of the deaths of all of these horses. If it can happen with horses,

[USMA:44858] Re: FPLA 2010 as FPLA-4-24.pdf

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Somehow that public law needs to be changed so that the word "preferred" is changed to something else.  Something more requiring, like "the standard measurement system".   Public Law 100-418 designates the metric system of measurements as the standard measurement system for United States trade

[USMA:44857] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ld be consistent with clearly different meanings and would improve comprehension.     Stan Doore   - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:02 AM Subject: [USMA:44848] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10 I don't understand their short-sigh

[USMA:44856] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
be somewhat "snooty." I will point out that meter and liter have been used in the US at least since the Metric Act of 1866.  They appear in the original text; those spellings have a basis in Federal law. --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subj

[USMA:44852] Re: Horse deaths in Florida

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
hould be noted that the whole thing was an attempt to mimic a French supplement which has not been approved for use in the US , and may have been illegal. --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44830] Re: Horse deaths in Florida To: "U

[USMA:44851] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
) Units in Building Design and Construction (Committee E-6 Supplement to E 380) uses the -re spelling throughout (see attached scan).   John F-L - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:03 AM Subject: [USMA:44833] Re: IEEE/AS

[USMA:44849] Re: Horse deaths in Florida

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
--- On Fri, 4/24/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44830] Re: Horse deaths in Florida To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 10:42 PM It sure would be a real embarrassment for the USA if it turns out to be a

[USMA:44848] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
US.   I don't know about the latest editions, but my copy of ASTM E 621 - 84, Standard Practice for the Use of Metric (SI) Units in Building Design and Construction (Committee E-6 Supplement to E 380) uses the -re spelling throughout (see attached scan).   John F-L - Original Message -

[USMA:44845] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-25 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
n't know about the latest editions, but my copy of ASTM E 621 - 84, Standard Practice for the Use of Metric (SI) Units in Building Design and Construction (Committee E-6 Supplement to E 380) uses the -re spelling throughout (see attached scan).   John F-L - Original Message ----- From

[USMA:44841] Re: A blast from the past - Australian anti-metric Association - revisited

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
y unaware of an organisation that was able to elicit two whole letters in the year and a half before it disappeared. Cheers, Pat Naughtin Geelong, Australia On 2009/04/25, at 1:28 PM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: Pat, There was a response to your belief that the Australain Anti-Metric Asso

[USMA:44839] RE: Stephen's meanderings on the topic of downsizing

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Stephen thinks that if he demands a full 568 mL serving then everyone else does too.  The only reason he does it is so he can foam at the mouth and bore everyone in the pub about getting a full pint.  Most people are not that anal and accept what they get as long as it is close enough. I doubt

[USMA:44838] Re: Pump Engineering

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
To sell in Europe it MAY have to be more then just metric numbers..  They may have to conform to ISO, DIN or other local standards, such as for frame size, mounting patterns, fasteners, etc.  So just changing numbers to metric would not work.  Plus it isn't only the metric in Europe they need to

[USMA:44837] Re: Pump Engineering

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
>From viewing their website, I doubt they do any engineering in metric unless >they are requested to by an overseas customer. Did you ever get a response to your inquiry?  Jerry From: Michael Payne To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 20

[USMA:44836] Re: A blast from the past - Australian anti-metric Association - revisited

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Pat Naughtin Geelong, Australia P..S. I was once involved in a 'debate' where some people suggested that the '90 mile beach' should be renamed. This was another story that was released on April 1st. On 2009/04/18, at 9:29 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: Pat, Can you tell us w

[USMA:44834] RE: Boston Marathon results in metric

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
The London Flora marathon is also metric and electronically times all the results at the same distances.  You can check the results for the past years here:   http://www.london-marathon.co.uk/site/?pageID=2&article=40   Note, not a mile or foot to be found.   The people who survey and verify the r

[USMA:44835] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
0 for free. I am not making a recommendation here, just answering a question. My original question, asking for the latest edition, was bibliographic. ____ From: Jeremiah MacGregor Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:04:56 -0700 (PDT) To: "U.S. Metric Associ

[USMA:44833] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
egulatory force in a way that BIPM does not. It would be nice to download IEEE/ASTM SI-10 for free. I am not making a recommendation here, just answering a question. My original question, asking for the latest edition, was bibliographic. ____ From: Jeremiah MacGregor

[USMA:44832] Re: SKA

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
I doubt then there will be any American participation in this project.  Jerry From: John Frewen-Lord To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:22:17 AM Subject: [USMA:44782] SKA If there is any doubt that we live in a metric world, BBC new

[USMA:44831] Re: Writing letters

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
m for accepting. Sometimes the people at the top have to hear what their customers think. Shipping something back is fairly radical.   Mike Payne - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: Michael Payne ; U..S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, 19 April 2009 22:34 Subject: Re: [USMA:

[USMA:44830] Re: Horse deaths in Florida

2009-04-24 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
It sure would be a real embarrassment for the USA if it turns out to be a metric error. Jerry From: Harry Wyeth To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:23:01 AM Subject: [USMA:44823] Horse deaths in Florida As a horse owner, I am shocked

[USMA:44780] Re: online food seller

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
I can buy a 1 L bottle of flavored carbonated water without any sugar for 58 cents at Wal-Mart.  So yes, I would say that is highway robbery.  Bust obviously there are enough suckers buying it for them to continue to sell it. Jerry From: John M. Steele To: U

[USMA:44776] Re: online food seller

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
In addition to John's remarks, I see the website promotes wellness.  I also see they have featured chefs, yet their recipes are dumbed down to cups and spoons.  Here is a perfect opportunity for contact the chefs and ask them for recipes in metric to be included, using mass instead of volume.. 

[USMA:44775] Re: Writing letters

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
I was not advocating that you should not write letters to companies, but to be careful how you do it.  You don't want your letter getting into the hands of the company bimbo.  Who you write to in the company is very important.  I agree that in a bad economy companies will bend a little with cus

[USMA:44766] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
rules for the US). *There were some editorial style changes that perhaps need to be reflected. Those changes in driving documents need to be reflected.  Since I don't have a copy and am not on the committee, I have no idea what else. --- On Sat, 4/18/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jer

[USMA:44764] Re: metric Britain

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
n. --- On Sat, 18/4/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44715] Re: metric Britain To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Saturday, 18 April, 2009, 1:36 AM Stephen can't provide examples of important imperial use, as none exist.  Any measureme

[USMA:44763] RE: Right-wing support for Imperial

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
One would wonder what good it does to be anti-metric in government at a point where 90 % plus of the economy is already metric.  Since metrication began as a business incentive it is business that would have the most to lose if there ever was a push to return to imperial as a primary measurement

[USMA:44762] Re: online food seller

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
April 19, 2009 7:47:56 AM Subject: [USMA:44759] Re: online food seller On Saturday 18 April 2009 23:58:29 Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: > In as much as it seems like you are making a noble gesture for metrication, > just blindly writing to a company can be the wrong thing to do.  You never >

[USMA:44757] Re: online food seller

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
In as much as it seems like you are making a noble gesture for metrication, just blindly writing to a company can be the wrong thing to do.  You never know who will be answering your request.  The person answering your request may be very strongly anti-metric and either ignore you or provide you

[USMA:44755] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Pat, From the tone of his article, I don't think he will be too amused. He might have a heart attack when he realizes how much metric there is in his life that he never knew existed. Jerry From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, Apri

[USMA:44754] RE: Hooves vs feet

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Don't forget to visit Tesco (the imperial store) and report back just how imperial is isn't. Jerry From: Carleton MacDonald To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:46:52 PM Subject: [USMA:44743] RE: Hooves vs feet I too am getting a bit

[USMA:44736] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
ersonal opinion and others may feel differently.  Also, it is (at least partially) out of date whenever a new edition of the SI Brochure comes out.  It takes time for the NIST and ANSI publications to catch up. (although revisions from 7th to 8th SI Brochure are not earthshaking) --- On Fri, 4/17/09

[USMA:44735] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
The columnist is actually frustrated by the increase in metric usage in the US and in his life.  Being a reporter he may be aware of the huge loss of employment in the US as inch based companies close up in the US and reopen in metric China and elsewhere.  When unemployed Americans have to start

[USMA:44734] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Han, Yes, one would wonder why a pro-metric website would give advertisement space to an article that is anti-metric.  But then if you read down to the comments you will see why.  These two comments I found the most interesting.  The first one makes a connection between who sets the rules and

[USMA:44728] Re: planimeter

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Is he pro-metric? Jerry From: Pierre Abbat To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:18:27 AM Subject: [USMA:44727] Re: planimeter On Friday 17 April 2009 22:10:41 Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: > What was his response to you setting

[USMA:44725] Healthy Choice Commercial with Don Lake

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
http://community.bonniehunt.com/video/healthy-choice-commercial-with Note the poster on the wall just to the left of the woman seated. Jerry

[USMA:44726] Re: Metric horse boots

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Horses don't have feet, they have hooves.  I like the comment they have in their ad:  We have found that measurements are more accurate and easier to take using the metric system.   It seems that those who do real measuring are in the know.  It is no surprise that htey have found metric to be

[USMA:44724] Re: A blast from the past - Australian anti-metric Association

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
long, Australia P..S. I was once involved in a 'debate' where some people suggested that the '90 mile beach' should be renamed. This was another story that was released on April 1st. On 2009/04/18, at 9:29 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: Pat,   Can you tell us what ever hap

[USMA:44723] Re: A blast from the past - Australian anti-metric Association

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
One of the reasons that people like Mr. Parry were forced to recede back into their holes in the ground was that they didn't know the that those who build guided missiles don't measure in a base 16 system but in base 10 and in millimetres, as you note.  Has anyone ever seen a human interface mea

[USMA:44722] Re: Metric horse boots

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Horses don't have feet, they have hooves.  I like the comment they have in their ad:  We have found that measurements are more accurate and easier to take using the metric system.   It seems that those who do real measuring are in the know.  It is no surprise that they have found metric to be

[USMA:44721] Re: Cooking using Cups

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
It takes a bit of knowledge in numeracy, which is lacking in those who prefer imperial, to understand how to properly convert a dimension from inches to millimetres.  For example, most would simply convert one inch as 25.4 mm.  But if you take into account the tolerance of the dimension, you c

[USMA:44720] RE: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
I for one would like to know why Stephen has to copy posts from this forum to another forum to attack one of the posters from this forum.  It seems that Stephen is truly frustrated that he is unable to effectively present disinformation here without constantly being corrected so rather then prov

[USMA:44719] Re: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Ezra must now be a proud owner of Stephen's patented blinkers.  Now he can see only imperial, even where it isn't. Jerry From: Ken Cooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:47:25 AM Subject: [USMA:44695] Re: Nothing but Imperial E

[USMA:44718] Re: planimeter

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
What was his response to you setting in centimeters and getting a simpler result then his choice of inches? What is this prof a professor of; what discipline? Jerry From: Pierre Abbat To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:42:27 PM Su

[USMA:44717] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Why pay for a publication from the ANSI when the same information is available for free from the BIPM.   http://www.bipm.org/en/si/ Jerry From: John M. Steele To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:01:31 PM Subject: [USMA:44688] Re: IEE

[USMA:44716] Re: metric Britain

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
nted in metric - yet Woodland Farm obviously felt that was what their customers wanted.   Have a good Easter everybody - I'm off now for my 400 km drive to my cousins's flat in Bournemouth.   Cheers   John F-L - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S. Metric As

[USMA:44715] Re: metric Britain

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Stephen can't provide examples of important imperial use, as none exist.  Any measurement that is important is measured in metric.  Jerry From: Ken Cooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 6:28:08 PM Subject: [USMA:44661] Re: metric Br

[USMA:44714] Re: Even with "dual," you can't please everybody

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
y determining their meaning and documenting it in metric equivalents is the way to preserve those old recipes. --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44331] Re: Even with "dual," you can't please everybody To: "U.S. Metric A

[USMA:44710] Re: More gassy feet

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Stephen has also promised to take a picture of his meter, but so far hasn't..  Which leads me to suspect his was changed over. Now, if Stephen was clever he could have his new friend Ezra take a picture of his and send it to Stephen in a private email.  Then Stephen can post it here and claim i

[USMA:44709] Re: overuse of USMA Listserver

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
There seems to be a lot of whining coming from the "old" members who sat back and did nothing because the "new" members have taken over.  If some members don't like the amount of emails they are getting then the USMA needs to sponsor an official forum for people to communicate and get rid of th

[USMA:44708] A blast from the past - Australian anti-metric Association

2009-04-17 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Pat,   Can you tell us what ever happened to this organization and also can you tell us what happened to the diehards?  Did they eventually give up or are they still fighting against the metric system?    Are they like Stephen Humphreies who look for remnant imperial uses and have developed a f

[USMA:44629] Re: Water, teraliters, was FPLA 2010

2009-04-12 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
a prefix error in that news article. (If it isn't an error, you guys need more conservation effort!) --- On Sat, 4/11/09, Pat Naughtin wrote: From: Pat Naughtin Subject: [USMA:44564] Re: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 12:00 AM On 2009/04/11,

[USMA:44624] Re: U.S. Metric Board

2009-04-12 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
Your second point is very, very important.  It might even be beneficial that they swear an oath stating their full commitment to metrication. Jerry   From: John M. Steele To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:20:50 AM Subject: [USMA:4461

[USMA:44623] Re: Water, teraliters, was FPLA 2010

2009-04-12 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
about 25X the population (is Geelong under 200,000?), I wonder if there isn't a prefix error in that news article. (If it isn't an error, you guys need more conservation effort!) --- On Sat, 4/11/09, Pat Naughtin wrote: From: Pat Naughtin Subject: [USMA:44564] Re: FPLA 2010 To: "U

[USMA:44622] Re: SAE, was Water, teraliters

2009-04-12 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
imary, but generally allow and frequently use supplemental Customary in parentheses, at the author's option. --- On Sun, 4/12/09, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: From: Jeremiah MacGregor Subject: [USMA:44613] Re: Water, teraliters, was FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Da

[USMA:44612] Re: cover letter of 1971 U.S. metric report

2009-04-12 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
d be doing it in FFU? Jerry From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:08:19 AM Subject: [USMA:44605] Re: cover letter of 1971 U.S. metric report On 2009/04/12, at 1:46 AM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: The firms that did not

[USMA:44613] Re: Water, teraliters, was FPLA 2010

2009-04-12 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
on effort!) --- On Sat, 4/11/09, Pat Naughtin wrote: From: Pat Naughtin Subject: [USMA:44564] Re: FPLA 2010 To: "U.S. Metric Association" Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 12:00 AM On 2009/04/11, at 1:35 PM, Jeremiah MacGregor wrote: I can see where the terms megalitre, gigalitre and

[USMA:44603] Re: metric Britain

2009-04-11 Thread Jeremiah MacGregor
The other scans are from an installation booklet that came with a new electric shower I recently bought.  Apart from a single reference to an inlet pipe diameter, it is ENTIRELY metric.   I believe that, as I've said before, it is politicians aided and abetted by, for whatever reason, a h

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