Re: [uug] S.O.S.!!! Grub problems

2004-07-28 Thread Von Fugal
* Chris Alvarez [Mon, 26 Jul 2004 at 10:03 -0600] > Here is my grub.conf file: > > # grub.conf generated by anaconda > # > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this > file > # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that > # all kernel and initr

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Scott Paul Robertson
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:31:03PM -0600, Michael Torrie wrote: > On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 19:44, Scott Paul Robertson wrote: > > But how long will it take for SPF to be universally applied? There's an > > issue to wonder about. (And means I need to work on my mail-server > > again). > > Actually, no

Re: [uug] mp3 organization

2004-07-28 Thread ¿brock?
an interesting fact i've stumbled upon: mpg123 will play mp3's that are currently inside a tar file. i now take full albums, or groups of mp3's, tar them up together, and run a simple mpg123 album.tar and it runs through them. neat. helps me organize, and helps when i need to move things arou

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Steve Meyers
Michael Torrie wrote: Actually, no. It means you'll have to add an entry to your DNS records. Unless you still need to turn on SMTP AUTH, like I did. :) BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ ___ List Info: ht

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Torrie
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 19:44, Scott Paul Robertson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:14:00PM -0600, Steve Meyers wrote: > > SPF doesn't claim to be the be-all, end-all solution. It only claims to > > solve one problem (forged domains). Once SPF is universally applied, > > it's safe to bet the

Re: [uug] mp3 organization

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
Wierd, I would have thought FreeDB would have that kind of metadata. In that case head on over to Music Brainz . Legend has it when Gracenote claimed they owned all that metadata there were two open source projects to replace them, Music Brainz is the other one. The

[uug] mp3 organization

2004-07-28 Thread Ross Werner
I'm in the process of organization my ever-increasing mp3 collection. One thing I'd like to do is organize my music roughly by decades. freecddb.org has failed me in trying to find, say, when the first album a band produced was released, or what decade the majority of their releases appeared in,

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Scott Paul Robertson
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:14:00PM -0600, Steve Meyers wrote: > SPF doesn't claim to be the be-all, end-all solution. It only claims to > solve one problem (forged domains). Once SPF is universally applied, > it's safe to bet the major ISPs will move on to other problems. > But how long will

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:40:34 -0600 (MDT), Mac Newbold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Can the hosts file contain aliases without IP addresses? > > Depends on the OS. On *nix, I believe so. On windows, probably, but I'm > not sure. That was a rhetorical question to which the answer is no. /etc/host

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Mac Newbold
Today at 12:38pm, Andrew Jorgensen said: >On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:18:02 -0600 (MDT), Mac Newbold ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you want mail.app.byu.edu to resolve to mail.byu.edu, add an entry to >> your hosts file that says such. > >Can the hosts file contain aliases without IP addresses? De

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Bryan Murdock
Justin Findlay wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:52:28PM -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: 1. As Justin pointed out, the only limit in the foreseeable future on the bandwidth of fiber is the hardware on each end. I think there are theoretical limits on the fibre's material too. IE glass vs plastic.

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Justin Findlay
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 04:52:28PM -0600, Michael L Torrie wrote: > > 1. As Justin pointed out, the only limit in the foreseeable future on > > the bandwidth of fiber is the hardware on each end. > > I think there are theoretical limits on the fibre's material too. IE > glass vs plastic. It's n

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 15:43, Brent Thomson wrote: > Exactly. And it's not just fiber that outperforms this. Look around you. > Some of those wires may very well be gig-ether, transmitting data at 3 > times the speed of Motorola's new wireless system. While it /is/ more > costly to lay fiber than

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Steve Meyers
Andrew Jorgensen wrote: Eh, who wants to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] anyway ;-). Cheers. :) Seriously, I agree that SPF and friends need to and will happen, but it would be foolish to suppose that worm authors won't find ways around it. SPF doesn't claim to be the be-all, end-all solution. It o

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:32:30 -0600, Steve Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The document I mentioned also recommends setting up rate-limiting on a > per-user basis. That would all but eliminate attempts to bypass SPF by > using the local MX. Again, I expect that the major ISPs will implement >

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Brent Thomson
Justin Findlay wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:12:36AM -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: Umm...Did you read the article? 300 Mbps does _not_ outperform fiber. Fiber is already well past this. Fiber carries light, so it is much more adaptable than most technologies, which makes it a great fit, as

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Steve Meyers
Andrew Jorgensen wrote: http://corp.aol.com/press/ASTA_Statement_of_Intent.pdf Huh? This doc is a statement of intent that refers to a first draft of a best practices doc which suggests changing port numbers for mail submission so that there will be a clear distinction between MTA and MSA. In the

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Justin Findlay
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:12:36AM -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > Umm...Did you read the article? 300 Mbps does _not_ outperform fiber. > Fiber is already well past this. Fiber carries light, so it is much > more adaptable than most technologies, which makes it a great fit, as > it will be ab

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:49:33 -0600, Steve Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:18 -0600, Scott Paul Robertson > > Sending through a remote SMTP server with authentication happens on > > the same port as unauthenticated sending mail from one mail

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Steve Meyers
Andrew Jorgensen wrote: On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:18 -0600, Scott Paul Robertson Sending through a remote SMTP server with authentication happens on the same port as unauthenticated sending mail from one mail server to another, so they are both blocked. Not true. It should happen (according to th

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 14:16:18 -0600, Scott Paul Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a side note, the smtp traffic being blocked is that of a mail server > if I'm not mistaken. (ie, I can't have postfix on my laptop doing it's > own sending to the outside world, so I relay through the CS dept).

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Scott Paul Robertson
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 09:35:44PM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > The way I deal with this is by sending mail through a server I can > authenticate with, in my case this is mail.xmission.com. Since BYU is > blocking outgoing smtp (but not incoming?) I have to do it over SSL, > but I should be do

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:18:02 -0600 (MDT), Mac Newbold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you want mail.app.byu.edu to resolve to mail.byu.edu, add an entry to > your hosts file that says such. Can the hosts file contain aliases without IP addresses? BYU Unix Users Group http://

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Bryan Murdock
Michael Halcrow wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:21:55AM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: Another important thing to remember when talking about a fiber infrastructure as a utility is that it's not about your Mom, it's about your Mom's flower shop. I want fiber in my home of course, and it will com

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Mac Newbold
Today at 11:44am, Brent Thomson said: >My problem is that I use my laptop on three different networks: home, >office, and school. I don't need per account settings, I would need per >network settings (which is pretty much what DNS is supposed to provide). >It seems to me that 'mail' is a pretty co

RE: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Gary Thornock
Steve Meyers wrote: > In any case, you should be using a specific mail server > for each outgoing account you have, with SMTP auth. That > is the way of the future. Or, you could forward localhost port 25 over ssh to your own mailserver and bypass the problem entirely :) BYU

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Brent Thomson
My problem is that I use my laptop on three different networks: home, office, and school. I don't need per account settings, I would need per network settings (which is pretty much what DNS is supposed to provide). It seems to me that 'mail' is a pretty common name for mail servers (mail.byu.ed

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:35:36 -0500, Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:27:44AM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > > But you also claimed that the fiber would be obsolete, which can > > never be true. > > No, I didn't say anything about fiber technology. I instea

RE: [uug] Games?

2004-07-28 Thread djjones
Aaa aBeast... Wow... The good old days. Hey, Von Fugal is supposed to have a rewrite of that How is that coming Von? You done yet? Dallin -Original Message- From: Jacob Biesinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:51 AM To: 'BYU Unix Users Group' Subject: RE: [

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Michael L Torrie
On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 09:35, Michael Halcrow wrote: > No, I didn't say anything about fiber technology. I instead claimed > that whatever Provo implements will be obsolete and overpriced. That is quite a blanket judgement to pass. And if you would reread what Andrew said, you would find that it

RE: [uug] Games?

2004-07-28 Thread Jacob Biesinger
> > Since this thread has been briefly rekindled I thought I'd mention > another good game I found: Anyone remember the days of aBeast? Good old ASCII games... BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ ___

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Halcrow
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 10:27:44AM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:08:05 -0500, Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:12:36AM -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > > > >http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040727/cgtu014_1.html > > > > > > Umm...Did you r

Re: [uug] Games?

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
Since this thread has been briefly rekindled I thought I'd mention another good game I found: SolarWolf . My wife says it's sorta like pacman only you're being shot at the whole time. Definitely worth a try. Let me make another plug for Heroes while I

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:08:05 -0500, Michael Halcrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:12:36AM -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > > >http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040727/cgtu014_1.html > > > > Umm...Did you read the article? 300 Mbps does _not_ outperform > > fiber. Fiber is alread

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Halcrow
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:12:36AM -0600, Grant Robinson wrote: > >http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040727/cgtu014_1.html > > Umm...Did you read the article? 300 Mbps does _not_ outperform > fiber. Fiber is already well past this. Fiber carries light, so it > is much more adaptable than most technol

Re: [uug] filesystem/home directory encryption

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Halcrow
On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:13:10AM -0600, Arthur Moore wrote: > I'm trying to determng what is the best method for encrypting my > home directory, or a partition on my hard drive. I found this page > which describes several different ways. > > http://koeln.ccc.de/archiv/drt/crypto/linux-disk.html#

Re: [uug] On-campus DNS suffix

2004-07-28 Thread Jacob Fugal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott K wrote: | Steve Meyers wrote: | |> In any case, you should be using a specific mail server |> for each outgoing account you have, with SMTP auth. That is the way |> of the future. | | But not the way of the present. Well, maybe I'm just lazy, bu

RE: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread William Page
>From the article: These systems are expected to have sustained data rates beyond 20 Mbps, and peak data rates upwards of 100 Mbps. I don't think that can really compete with fiber as far as its data transmission properties. William > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

[uug] filesystem/home directory encryption

2004-07-28 Thread Arthur Moore
I'm trying to determng what is the best method for encrypting my home directory, or a partition on my hard drive. I found this page which describes several different ways. http://koeln.ccc.de/archiv/drt/crypto/linux-disk.html#ehd What do you think? What's the best way to set this up? Art __

Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Grant Robinson
On Jul 28, 2004, at 5:23 AM, Michael Halcrow wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:21:55AM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: Another important thing to remember when talking about a fiber infrastructure as a utility is that it's not about your Mom, it's about your Mom's flower shop. I want fiber in my ho

[uug] Fwd: [OT] Lou Costello Buys A Computer

2004-07-28 Thread Chris Alvarez
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Re: [uug] OT Community news: iProvo on ZDNet

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Halcrow
On Tue, Jul 20, 2004 at 10:21:55AM -0600, Andrew Jorgensen wrote: > Another important thing to remember when talking about a fiber > infrastructure as a utility is that it's not about your Mom, it's > about your Mom's flower shop. I want fiber in my home of course, and > it will come, but the home