Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-06-26 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 02:34:13PM -0600, Stuart Jansen wrote: > > I'm under no illusion that Oracle is going to start handing out free > candy to small children. But as Mark Twain might say "The reports of > [MySQL's] death are greatly exaggerated." Speaking of exaggerated deaths, I've always be

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-27 Thread Michael Torrie
Andrew McNabb wrote: > The only aspect in which I still "hate" them is the Microsoft Tax. This > has started to go away for the lowest end netbooks, but it's still not > gone yet. And I guess I'm still bothered by the Tom Tom lawsuit. Well, there are still reasons to strongly dislike them and th

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-27 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 11:55 -0600, Richard Esplin wrote: > Though I see that Microsoft is adapting to stay relevant, I'm not sure it can > make the kind of transformation that IBM did as long as Balmer and some of > the other old-time execs are still around. The culture is changing at the > deve

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-27 Thread Richard Esplin
Though I see that Microsoft is adapting to stay relevant, I'm not sure it can make the kind of transformation that IBM did as long as Balmer and some of the other old-time execs are still around. The culture is changing at the developer level and program level, but the corporation still plays ga

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-27 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:09:32AM -0600, Stuart Jansen wrote: > > In the world of the fan boy, saying anything nice about Microsoft is a > cardinal sin. Some Linux fan boys are so ideologically pure they would > denounce even Richard Stallman if he ever hinted at a positive opinion > of anything

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-27 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 09:01 -0600, Wilson Tarbuckles wrote: > If by "every bit as proprietary as Microsoft" you mean "also > learning to > embrace F/OSS", then I agree. > embrace is too benign a word to adequately explain what they are > doing: > > http://en.wikipedia.org

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-27 Thread Wilson Tarbuckles
> > If by "every bit as proprietary as Microsoft" you mean "also learning to > embrace F/OSS", then I agree. > embrace is too benign a word to adequately explain what they are doing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish microsoft doesn't think of open source software the s

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Gary Thornock
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Aaron Toponce wrote: > Oracle is every bit as proprietary as Microsoft, and they have > a reputation around where I work as being a bully, very "dog > eat dog'. Whatever Oracle's reputation for cutthroat business in the proprietary arena, the company does also support a few

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 14:17 -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > Oracle is every bit as proprietary as Microsoft, and they have a > reputation around where I work as being a bully, very "dog eat dog'. If by "every bit as proprietary as Microsoft" you mean "also learning to embrace F/OSS", then I agree.

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Aaron Toponce
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Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Alberto Treviño
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:18:03 pm Stuart Jansen wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 10:23 -0600, Daniel Fussell wrote: > > A moment of silence for MySQL > > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/128246 At least is not as bad as Sun being bought out by Microsoft! -- Alberto Treviño

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Stuart Jansen
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 10:23 -0600, Daniel Fussell wrote: > A moment of silence for MySQL > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/128246 Anyone who thinks they know what will happen as a result of Oracle buying Sun is kidding themselves. The fact is, Oracle is simply too unpredict

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Alberto Treviño
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 10:36:18 am Gary Thornock wrote: > Oracle could, I suppose, assert trademark rights and make > the rest of the world stop using the MySQL *name*, but we still > have the code. So would we change the name or OurSQL? :-) -- Alberto Treviño BYU Testing Center Brigham Young

Re: [uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Gary Thornock
--- On Tue, 4/21/09, Daniel Fussell wrote: > A moment of silence for MySQL > http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/128246 I wouldn't assume the demise of MySQL just yet. First: Oracle's not likely to drop MySQL development unless they can guarantee that at least the paying MySQ

[uug] Oracle and MySQL

2009-04-21 Thread Daniel Fussell
A moment of silence for MySQL http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/128246 BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ The opinions expressed in this message are the responsibility of their author. They are not endorsed by BYU, the BYU CS Department or BYU-U