Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-08 Thread Deirdre Straughan
Looks as if the news is good (so far) on WIPO:Webcasting Gets a Reprieve International treaty provisions that would prevent the retransmission of media over the Web have been dropped -- for now. By Wade Roush If proposed rules preventing the digital retransmission of TV, radio, or c

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-07 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,It's already been done.  (Although it's not ubiquitous yet.)This page has a link to a bunch of them...http://freenetworks.org/ Someday these we'll hopefully become one network of networks.See yaOn 5/7/06, wazman_au < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:This is interesting. I've thought about this ...

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-07 Thread David Meade
On 5/7/06, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But let's not kidourselves that a neutral net will save the world. I never said net neutrality would save the world, I said it would limit our means to continue to try and speak out and educate that world. I never said it would sif american

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-07 Thread wazman_au
This is interesting. I've thought about this ... effectively daisy- chaining WiFi to create an alternative internet. We all download and run little applications that make our WiFi cards seek out and link to the nearest WiFi networks running the same little applications ... with gateways to th

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-07 Thread Andy Carvin
CNN did a story about this late last year. The State Department doesn't release official figures, and some critics have suggested this is because they don't keep accurate records and it's a national security problem. Meanwhile, public surveys have ranged from anywhere from five percent to more t

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-07 Thread Deirdre Straughan
For the record, I get very angry with America's shortcomings precisely because it IS, in some sense, "my" country. I was born there, I maintain citizenship and pay taxes. But I've lived in many other places. I know firsthand that there is ignorance and poverty all over the world, including Amer

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-07 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 5/6/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just cant let this one go ... you've hit a nerve ... not that is has any relevance what so ever to the issue. really ... Firstly, your statement that 15% of Americans had passports is a bit dated? According to survey last year the number is

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-06 Thread David Meade
On 5/6/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: FYI: Deirdre is an American. :o) That doesnt make her numbers on passport holders - or implication that the number is caused by disinterest in the world any more valid ... clearly by the study you pointed to it simply makes her a less relia

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-06 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Sat, 06 May 2006 22:32:35 +0200, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: > And 3rdly, what Americans DO or do NOT know ... should not be judged by > tidbits edited together for the greatest effect by some TV show trying to > sell a point. For the record: Actual studies have been made (see

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-06 Thread David Meade
I just cant let this one go ... you've hit a nerve ... not that is has any relevance what so ever to the issue. really ... Firstly, your statement that 15% of Americans had passports is a bit dated? According to survey last year the number is more like 34% (http://www.canadatourism.com/ctx/file

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-06 Thread David Meade
On 5/6/06, Deirdre Straughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/3/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NB: I agree with the principle of net neutrality, I just don't see it as a panacea to the world's problems, and it can be hard to get people to listen to your arguments if you fill them w

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-06 Thread Deirdre Straughan
On 5/3/06, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I mean lets talk nightmare scenerio for a sec:  What if political ideas contrary to the (theoretical) US administration were suddenly never heard by the masses because huge amounts of money from lobbyists allows for those ideas to get squashed? 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-04 Thread Jan McLaughlin
Well, when the U.S. effectively shuts down the Internet, in China they will still have it; you just won't be able to say or search everything you want. Is something better than nothing? China? I've made plans for the day when China takes over the U.S.  Got me a job lined up as a shoe shiner

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello,I can't find where I read this (or else I'd credit the author), but when trying to talk to these kind of people, e-mails don't work.  They're too easily delete.(Snail) mail works better.  But what's best is to call them. When calling them, be polite but be firm about your concerns.  Get th

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Devlon
Nice, I may have to steal that for my own letter. Thanks.On 5/3/06, Casey McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is the full text of the e-mail I sent, in case any of you feel like copying/editing it to send to their own national representative: --- Dear Sir/Madam, I wish to inform you t

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Casey McKinnon
Thanks, David... I work for a UN organization, so I know the appropriate lingo (I type letters on behalf of my boss, a Japanese Diplomat, on a daily basis!) Casey --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "David Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good letter Casey! > > ... so many battles ...

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Wed, 03 May 2006 22:05:03 +0200, David Meade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: > Sure the Net Neutrality issue is in the US congress right now Andreas,  > but > you are fooling yourself if you think that wont effect your experience.   > Any > network traffic that traverses the backbone of a US

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread David Meade
We may still be able to send email ... but if that's all we can do without paying a premium charge or per KB or something ... then its not like a comet hitting the Earth its like a comet hitting the Internet ... it'll be dead and gone. Sure the Net Neutrality issue is in the US congress right no

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Casey McKinnon
Here is the full text of the e-mail I sent, in case any of you feel like copying/editing it to send to their own national representative: --- Dear Sir/Madam, I wish to inform you that I disapprove of the inclusion of Webcasting and DRM in the Broadcast Treaty currently under debate in the UN'

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Casey McKinnon
I heartfully agree, Josh.  Unfortunately, this is no longer on a national level, so it may be more difficult to have our voices heard. I have, however, found the site with the contact details of all Delegations/Missions to the organization at the following link: http://www.wipo.int/members/en/

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Anne Walk
oops. i was thinking about net neutrality as well. of course, it's all one and same as far as agenda goes.On 5/3/06, Casey McKinnon < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:No Andreas, I'm afraid you and Josh Leo are confusing this with the OTHER threat going on right now.  This thread is with regards to theU

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Anne Walk
i like this line from the boingboing article you posted, casey: The forest of hundreds of startups gets burned to the ground, and only a few old trees like Yahoo and Microsoft are left standing.it's funny because i just received an alert in my mail that microsoft is in negotiations to buy a huge

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Josh Leo
my bad, wrong thread... but we would still be able to send emails i believe either way...On 5/3/06, Anne Walk < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi andreas. that's not exactly true. it is a problem we will all deal with. not just the u.s.we are already fighting similar ideas sneaking into our country

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Casey McKinnon
No Andreas, I'm afraid you and Josh Leo are confusing this with the OTHER threat going on right now.  This thread is with regards to the United Nations (NOT the US Senate).  Link to article (again) for those of you who haven't read it yet: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/02/un_cooking_podca

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Anne Walk
hi andreas. that's not exactly true. it is a problem we will all deal with. not just the u.s.we are already fighting similar ideas sneaking into our country (canada). and companies have long ago stopped being associated with any one country. On 5/3/06, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Anne Walk
you're right, josh.it's not like a comet hitting the earth. it's like a muzzle.citizen journalists would be silenced. no more inconvenient news would leak. musicians who are making their own music videos and record labels via the net would no longer have that option. it would be the major labels

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Wed, 03 May 2006 20:38:25 +0200, Josh Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yikes, even if this crappy idea goes through it is not like they are  > closing > the internet... we would still be able to email eachother... even if it > would feature tons of ads and crap like that. Just to point out

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Josh Leo
Yikes, even if this crappy idea goes through it is not like they are closing the internet... we would still be able to email eachother... even if it would feature tons of ads and crap like that.I signed the petition, i am against this bill/whatever, but it's not like it is a comet hitting the ea

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Casey McKinnon
I realized the same thing this morning, David.  The sad thing is that if the Internet ever crashed, I would lose contact with every single one of you and I would have to use telephone operators to try to find your phone numbers.  I consider some of my fellow videobloggers to be really good frien

[videoblogging] Re: Us vs. the UN

2006-05-03 Thread Heath
Who could have thunk, that a college kid sitting in his dorm, that had an idea of how to share music, would have let to this?  Because in reality that is what has happened, the movie and entertainment industry seeing what has happened to the music industry (which is still debatable, crappy C