Re: VimWin

2007-04-23 Thread Zhichao Hong
The best virtual window manager I have used is VirtuaWin(http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/). It is lightweight and have a plugin architecture. I have tried Virtual Dimension. But I still prefer the VirtuaWin for some reasons I don't remember. If you really need a *NIX l&f, you can try the bble

Re: VimWin

2007-04-23 Thread Bernd Strohhäcker
A. S. Budden schrieb: On 23/04/07, Matthew Winn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:48:58 +0200, "A.J.Mechelynck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - virtual desktops. This may need some explaining to Windows-only people: On > Windows there is one desktop, period. On X11, at least w

Re: VimWin

2007-04-23 Thread A. S. Budden
On 23/04/07, Matthew Winn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:48:58 +0200, "A.J.Mechelynck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - virtual desktops. This may need some explaining to Windows-only people: On > Windows there is one desktop, period. On X11, at least with some window > managers

Re: VimWin

2007-04-23 Thread Matthew Winn
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:48:58 +0200, "A.J.Mechelynck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - virtual desktops. This may need some explaining to Windows-only people: On > Windows there is one desktop, period. On X11, at least with some window > managers, you may have up to 20 virtual desktops (you choose

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread Zhichao Hong
Zhaojun, If you want to discuss the performance, can you please start the topic on alt.comp.lang.c or something like that? Just let me know the thread and I will be happy to join the discussion. Your result is interesting in that cygwin/c can beat vc. As generally the binary compiled with cygw

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread panshizhu
"Zhichao Hong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写于 2007-04-22 22:55:47: > If the topic is about fonts, I would like to make some comment. The > Bitstream Vera Sans Mono looks ugly with subpixel hints. You can say > the same thing about Consolas. But if the hinting are turned on and > compared on the Windows,

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Gary Johnson wrote: [...] I don't know what you meant by "graphics area", but the usability of an X window manager such as KDE on Linux far exceeds that of Windows XP. Things you can do on Linux that you can't do on Windows include - setting the focus policy to focus follows mouse instead of

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Zhichao Hong wrote: If the topic is about fonts, I would like to make some comment. The Bitstream Vera Sans Mono looks ugly with subpixel hints. You can say the same thing about Consolas. But if the hinting are turned on and [...] It may depend on the rendering engine used. I use Bitstream V

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread Zhichao Hong
ho are also > interested. > > Thanks, > Zhaojun > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Zhaojun WU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Apr 22, 2007 2:32 PM > Subject: Re: VimWin > To: Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On 4/22/07, Zhichao Hong &l

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-04-21, Dimitar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have nothing against Linux at all.(I'm using it as my standard > operating system). > But I must admit that Windows and MacOS are far ahead from Linux in > the graphics area. The X server is somehow not worthy to compare with > the graphic envi

Re: VimWin

2007-04-22 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
-- From: Zhaojun WU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Apr 22, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: VimWin To: Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 4/22/07, Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, I don't use gui while in linux. The ugly fonts in x windows are killing my eyes. Yes

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread Zhaojun WU
: Zhaojun WU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Apr 22, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: Re: VimWin To: Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 4/22/07, Zhichao Hong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, I don't use gui while in linux. The ugly fonts in x windows are killing my eyes. Yes it includes t

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Zhichao Hong wrote: > I have to admit it is my personal taste to use vc++ on Win32 platform. > I did see benchmarks showed the vc++ performs better than gcc. I > remembered seeing that in one of the Dr. Dobb's issue. Also I have > heard remarks from Bjarne Stroustrup that vc++ or Intel c++ perfo

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread Zhichao Hong
I have to admit it is my personal taste to use vc++ on Win32 platform. I did see benchmarks showed the vc++ performs better than gcc. I remembered seeing that in one of the Dr. Dobb's issue. Also I have heard remarks from Bjarne Stroustrup that vc++ or Intel c++ performs better than gcc. Maybe

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Robert Hicks wrote: [...] Doesn't it install a whole new Vim? Where you used to just do the binaries for the Vim app itself? Robert I used to compile only the binaries, yes, and that meant the runtimes were always out-of-date. Steve takes the trouble of downloading the latest runtime files

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread Robert Hicks
A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Robert Hicks wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Zhichao Hong wrote: [...] The Win32 build normally does not get patched frequently and the users on that platform cannot take the advantages of the bug fixes as frequently as UNIX user could have. [...] The Win32 binary build a

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Robert Hicks wrote: A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Zhichao Hong wrote: [...] The Win32 build normally does not get patched frequently and the users on that platform cannot take the advantages of the bug fixes as frequently as UNIX user could have. [...] The Win32 binary build available on the ftp.vim

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread Robert Hicks
A.J.Mechelynck wrote: Zhichao Hong wrote: [...] The Win32 build normally does not get patched frequently and the users on that platform cannot take the advantages of the bug fixes as frequently as UNIX user could have. [...] The Win32 binary build available on the ftp.vim.org site doesn't get

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread Zhichao Hong
Sorry, I don't use gui while in linux. The ugly fonts in x windows are killing my eyes. Yes it includes the dejavu mono. Ironically, I do find lots of linux users are using the fonts from the dark side. As for the compiler, I don't have to repeat lots of studies from different papers that show

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Dimitar wrote: * A.J.Mechelynck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070421 10:20]: [...] Cases in point: - Microsoft Windows XP Professional (I haven't tested Vista, but from what I hear it could also serve here) vs. openSUSE Linux. Sorry for the off topic. I have nothing against Linux at all.(I'm using it

Re: VimWin

2007-04-21 Thread Dimitar
* A.J.Mechelynck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070421 10:20]: > Zhichao Hong wrote: > >I am aware of the the cream project. Unfortunately they are the gnu > >compilers. As I have a professional Visual C++ compiler, and Vim is > >such as great tool, I would like to compile it with the latest > >professiona

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Zhichao Hong wrote: I am aware of the the cream project. Unfortunately they are the gnu compilers. As I have a professional Visual C++ compiler, and Vim is such as great tool, I would like to compile it with the latest professional tool. I don't intent to stir flame war between gnu and microso

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Zhichao Hong wrote: Dimitar, Sorry, the only way to use this feature is to use key. I agree it is kind of rude. I am looking into how to make it full screen with a normal vim command. Then you will be able to map to any arbitrary keys. If it is "properly" patched into gvim C/C++ code, you

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread A.J.Mechelynck
Zhichao Hong wrote: [...] The Win32 build normally does not get patched frequently and the users on that platform cannot take the advantages of the bug fixes as frequently as UNIX user could have. [...] The Win32 binary build available on the ftp.vim.org site doesn't get patched, it only gets

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread Zhichao Hong
quently and the users on that > >platform cannot take the advantages of the bug fixes as frequently as > >UNIX user could have. So I normally maintains my own vim build with > >the latest patches for my personal use. Now I would like to share > >this with the users. The result

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread Zhichao Hong
build with > >the latest patches for my personal use. Now I would like to share > >this with the users. The result from this effort is that I have > >created the the vimwin project at sourceforge ( > >http://sourceforge.net/projects/vimwin). The Cream project also p

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread Dimitar
l use. Now I would like to share > >this with the users. The result from this effort is that I have > >created the the vimwin project at sourceforge ( > >http://sourceforge.net/projects/vimwin). The Cream project also provides binaries for windows: http://cream.sourceforge.net/ The

Re: VimWin

2007-04-20 Thread A. S. Budden
ke the advantages of the bug fixes as frequently as UNIX user could have. So I normally maintains my own vim build with the latest patches for my personal use. Now I would like to share this with the users. The result from this effort is that I have created the the vimwin project at sourceforge

VimWin

2007-04-19 Thread Zhichao Hong
. So I normally maintains my own vim build with the latest patches for my personal use. Now I would like to share this with the users. The result from this effort is that I have created the the vimwin project at sourceforge ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/vimwin). Here is the project will help