Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread Teri Pittman
Okay, this question concerns accelerators and cache cards. I've been reading about accelerator cards for the IIci and it sounds like the Daystar Turbo 601 would be a good match. I'm seeing NuBus and PDS cards. I understand that these are different type slots. Is one type preferable over the ot

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 09:37 -0800 on 05/04/02, Teri Pittman wrote: >Okay, this question concerns accelerators and cache cards. I've been >reading about accelerator cards for the IIci and it sounds like the Daystar >Turbo 601 would be a good match. I'm seeing NuBus and PDS cards. I You *do* realise how much thos

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I'm seeing NuBus and PDS cards. I understand that these are >different type slots. The IIci has three NuBus slots and one PDS slot. The NuBus slots are typically used for items like Ethernet interfaces and video cards. The PDS slot is is a Processor Direct Slot. >The information on Low End

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread Teri Pittman
> You *do* realise how much those cost, right? Well, at this point, I'm surfing ebay *grin*! Since I keep reading that this is a good upgrade, I'm trying to learn as much about it as I can. First upgrade will probably be more RAM, as it only has 8MB on board. > > It'd be cheaper to get a 7100 mo

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 10:01 -0800 on 05/04/02, Teri Pittman wrote: >So the 7100 uses 72 pin SIMMs? I haven't really checked the specs on those Yes. >yet. The IIci was set up as a desktop publishing computer and it has quite >a few programs installed on it. I would need to make sure that they are PPC >compatibl

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread Sam Macomber
>> > > It'd be cheaper to get a 7100 mobo and cram it in there, which would > give > you a native PPC-based motherboard for about 1/10 the price of a Turbo > 601. > You'd need new RAM, of course, but everything else would transfer right > over... > o never knew anything beyond a Q700 mobo wo

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread the pickle
At 15:24 -0700 on 05/04/02, Sam Macomber wrote: >o never knew anything beyond a Q700 mobo would fit..I sense a >project coming! ;) The IIcx mobo was substantially similar in form factor to the 700, 650, 800, 7100, 8100, and many of the PCI-based boards. With anything after about the x10

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, this question concerns accelerators and cache > cards. I've been > reading about accelerator cards for the IIci and it > sounds like the Daystar > Turbo 601 would be a good match. I'm seeing NuBus > and PDS cards. I > understand that these are

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So the 7100 uses 72 pin SIMMs? I haven't really > checked the specs on those > yet. The IIci was set up as a desktop publishing > computer and it has quite > a few programs installed on it. I would need to > make sure that they are PPC > compatible

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread Teri Pittman
At 11:51 PM 04/05/2002 -0800, you wrote: >9.1 is OK on a 110Mhz 601 PowerMac but on a 100Mhz >Power IIci with its 25Mhz bus speed would be >torture that not even an Al Queda terrorist should >be subjected to. ;-) > Thank you, Gregg. That's pretty much what I thought I was reading (except I was

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread J.S. Garrison
-- >From: Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs) >Subject: Re: Another IIci question >Date: Sat, Apr 6, 2002, 6:12 AM > > At 11:51 PM 04/05/2002 -0800, you wrote: > >>9.1 is OK on a 110Mhz 601 PowerMac but on a

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you, Gregg. That's pretty much what I thought > I was reading (except > I wasn't aware of the OS versions involved). I'm > starting to think the > wisest course for this IIci is to max it out on RAM, > play around with it a > bit, and keep my

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- "J.S. Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Y'know, I'm dumbfounded at this one. > > I have a 6100/66av that ran OS 9.1 just fine. Even > went to iTunes radio > stations that would broadcast in my speed-zone, > (28.8k), and got music hiccupingly. > > Now with the Newer 240Mhz. card in it,

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread mart
Teri Pittman wrote: >I'm starting to think the >wisest course for this IIci is to max it out on RAM, play around with it a >bit, and keep my eye out for a cheap Power Mac or G3 or 4. A lot less costly but very much worth the effort is the addition of an '030 accellerator card like the 'Diimo 030

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> >I'm starting to think the > >wisest course for this IIci is to max it out on RAM, play around with it a > >bit, and keep my eye out for a cheap Power Mac or G3 or 4. > > A lot less costly but very much worth the effort is the addition of an '030 > accellerator card like the 'Diimo 030 cache ca

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread Scott Holder
At 09:29 PM 4/6/2002 -0800, you wrote: > > >I'm starting to think the > > >wisest course for this IIci is to max it out on RAM, play around with it a > > >bit, and keep my eye out for a cheap Power Mac or G3 or 4. > > > > A lot less costly but very much worth the effort is the addition of an '030

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread J.S. Garrison
-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mart) >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vintage Macs) >Subject: Re: Another IIci question >Date: Sat, Apr 6, 2002, 7:31 PM > > Teri Pittman wrote: >>I'm starting to think the >>wisest course for this IIci is to max it out

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread the pickle
At 21:54 -0800 on 06/04/02, J.S. Garrison wrote: >> A lot less costly but very much worth the effort is the addition of an '030 >> accellerator card like the 'Diimo 030 cache card'. Runs on 50 Mhz. Got one >> in here; makes the OS 7.1 on this IIci really zippy :) >> >> -mart > > >I'm kinda spoile

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 21:54 -0800 on 06/04/02, J.S. Garrison wrote: > > >> A lot less costly but very much worth the effort > is the addition of an '030 > >> accellerator card like the 'Diimo 030 cache > card'. Runs on 50 Mhz. Got one > >> in here; makes the OS 7.1 on thi

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > And pretty much any of them are outrageously fast > > with System 6. (The > > Turbo 601s won't work with 6, but the rest of the > > Daystars for the IIci will.) > > The DayStar 030 PowerCache also works with A/UX! :) Ooo! I'll have to try that! -- - personal pa

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Benson
On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 02:37 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Well, if you can dig up a 50Mhz DayStar 030 PowerCache > with FPU for cheap, it's worth it for a IIci. Gives > quite the boost up in speed. I think the proper > install > sequence for the PowerCache control panel is in the > FAQ. Her

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Benson
On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 06:54 AM, J.S. Garrison wrote: > I'm kinda spoiled. I like the Daystar 68040/33 accelerator. I was about to say, if you are so impressed by the 50MHz 030s why not try a Radius Rocket 040. I have a friend who is supplying my IIci that is lending me his Rocket (he is

Yet another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Teri Pittman
Okay, while we're all out happily hunting accelerator cards. I take it that the best way to add a modem to a IIci is to get an external serial port type. Am I right or am I missing something? I do know that externals are generally more stable, but have used internals in the PCs I've owned.

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread the pickle
At 10:56 +0100 on 07/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: >On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 06:54 AM, J.S. Garrison wrote: > >> I'm kinda spoiled. I like the Daystar 68040/33 accelerator. > >I was about to say, if you are so impressed by the 50MHz 030s why not >try a Radius Rocket 040. I have a friend who is su

Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Benson
I have a Daystar PowerCache 030 upgrade in my SE/30 that plugs into the CPU socket complete with cache and FPU. Will it work in a IIci, if so is it worth pulling out of my SE/30 (which hardly gets used) and whacking it in my soon-to-be-had IIci? I kinda thought seeing as they were both 1989 vi

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Benson
On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 06:33 PM, the pickle wrote: >> I was about to say, if you are so impressed by the 50MHz 030s why not >> try a Radius Rocket 040. I have a friend... says it boots 6.0.8 in 5 >> seconds :). > > Yeah, they're pretty damn cool too. The Stage Twos are a lot better > tha

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread the pickle
At 19:51 +0100 on 07/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: >Yeh - RocketShare is a cool sounding app. Does it run the second 'Mac' >in a window? Yep, or you can run it in full-screen mode on a second monitor. Really cool stuff. Too bad it doesn't like running with anything past about 7.1. (It'll work with

Re: Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Benson
On Sunday, April 7, 2002, at 10:06 PM, the pickle wrote: > At 19:51 +0100 on 07/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: > >> Yeh - RocketShare is a cool sounding app. Does it run the second 'Mac' >> in a window? > > Yep, or you can run it in full-screen mode on a second monitor. Really > cool stuff. Too bad

Re: Yet another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Scott Holder
At 10:20 AM 4/7/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Okay, while we're all out happily hunting accelerator cards. > >I take it that the best way to add a modem to a IIci is to get an external >serial port type. Am I right or am I missing something? I do know that >externals are generally more stable, but

Re: Yet another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread the pickle
At 10:20 -0700 on 07/04/02, Teri Pittman wrote: >I take it that the best way to add a modem to a IIci is to get an external Try "only" way. The one NuBus modem I've ever seen was 2400bps. >Also, about adding a CD, I'm guessing I would want an external SCSI CD. Uh-huh. Without doing some very

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread the pickle
At 19:49 +0100 on 07/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: >I have a Daystar PowerCache 030 upgrade in my SE/30 that plugs into the >CPU socket complete with cache and FPU. Will it work in a IIci, if so is No. >it worth pulling out of my SE/30 (which hardly gets used) and whacking Definitely not. the pic

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a Daystar PowerCache 030 upgrade in my SE/30 > that plugs into the > CPU socket complete with cache and FPU. Will it work > in a IIci, if so is > it worth pulling out of my SE/30 (which hardly gets > used) and whacking > it in my soon-to-be-ha

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 12:42 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > --- Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have a Daystar PowerCache 030 upgrade in my SE/30 >> that plugs into the >> CPU socket complete with cache and FPU. Will it work >> in a IIci, if so is >> it worth pulling out of my SE/

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread the pickle
At 01:27 +0100 on 08/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: >it's no biggy until I hae to give the RR back. I presume the Rocket is a >PDS upgrade right? NuBus. the pickle FAQ Software Archive

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope, the IIci CPU is not socketed. > It doesn't use the PDS slot it's an 030 socket > upgrade, Right, see what I scribbled up there. > although that's > slightly academic given that the IIci has a soldered > CPU and it won't work anyway.

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-08 Thread Mark Benson
On Monday, April 8, 2002, at 06:29 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Nope, it's a NuBus card. The original Rocket can > either completely take over the CPU function or act > as a Mac inside your Mac. The Stage II Rocket only > works as a seperate Mac. The accelerator function > of the original Rocket w

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-08 Thread the pickle
At 13:01 +0100 on 08/04/02, Mark Benson wrote: >So it's better used as a separate 'Mac' as that way it just has to feed >video over the NuBus rather than all the RAM and CPU calls. Or an I way >off? It has its own onboard RAM and CPU too, but yeah, pretty much. >Also a question, does it require

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-10 Thread Goetz Hoffart
> I have a Daystar PowerCache 030 upgrade in my SE/30 that plugs into the > CPU socket complete with cache and FPU. Will it work in a IIci It will not work without an adapter card. The SE/30 PDS and the IIci PDS are *not* compatible. Most accelerator cards were produced for the IIci PDS and del

Re: Yet Another IIci question

2002-04-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Goetz Hoffart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a Daystar PowerCache 030 upgrade in my > SE/30 that plugs into the > > CPU socket complete with cache and FPU. Will it > work in a IIci > > It will not work without an adapter card. > > The SE/30 PDS and the IIci PDS are *not* compatible. >

CD-ROM inside. Re: Yet another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:20 -0700 on 07/04/02, Teri Pittman wrote: > > >I take it that the best way to add a modem to a > IIci is to get an external > > Try "only" way. The one NuBus modem I've ever seen > was 2400bps. > > >Also, about adding a CD, I'm guessing I would

Re: CD-ROM inside. Re: Yet another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Teri Pittman
At 04:30 PM 04/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Make a spacer to fit between the lid and the case. >Step the top edge in to mimic the top edge of the >case. Some sheet metal should work. Any heating >and air conditioning shop should be able to make >up the spacer and roll the top edge to make the >step

Re: CD-ROM inside. Re: Yet another IIci question

2002-04-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Teri Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 04:30 PM 04/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > >Make a spacer to fit between the lid and the case. > >Step the top edge in to mimic the top edge of the > >case. Some sheet metal should work. Any heating > >and air conditioning shop should be able to mak