Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-26 Thread the pickle
At 22:03 +0100 on 20/08/02, Mark Benson wrote: >>I've got 2 IIcx's with 80MB RAM... >> >>I paid almost $3,000 for some of those Thunder IV GX cards in various >>resolutions. The DSP acceleration is kick butt. The best is converting to >>CMYK, which is sped up by a huge factor. > >I see, now I und

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-21 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
> Hmm, I just noticed he left the T out of Paintboard > in the subject. ;) Because it's PAIN-fully slow?! Ben. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- rlf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Pimped" meaning what here, please? > > Bob F Like a 1977 Lincoln Mark V Coupe, lowered, gold wire wheels, velour interior, shag carpet Right out of a bad 1970's cop show. ;) "All the bells and whistles, plus more." = http://www.junkscience.com "Al

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-21 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > My 'pimped' IIci "only" has an 8*24*GC, a 1GB Seagate Hawk, 24MB RAM and > > a Daystar 50MHz '030+FPU, plus a Farallon EtherWave card. It does the job. > > "Pimped" meaning what here, please? "pimped out" being roughly synonymous for "tricked out" depending on your age, dialect and funky per

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- mart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Ben, what do you mean by screen draw lag? > > -mart He means you can see the graphic elements draw on the screen instead of "snapping" on. A faster Mac or a faster upgraded CPU can take care of much of it. Hmm, I just noticed he left the T out of Paintb

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-21 Thread rlf
>From: Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from Marten van de Kraats >at "Aug 20, 2 10:52:14 pm" >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:24:10 -0700 (PDT)

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-21 Thread John Ruschmeyer
> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:04:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished > > --- Ken Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It uses 30 pin SIMMs. It's

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Bill Zipprich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The IIfx IOP's would certainly benefit the Internet > experience as you use > the mouse to navigate. > > Also consider that the cursor (hardware cursor) is > controlled via the IOP's > as well. Well, I suppose he can start by just assembling whatev

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Ken Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It uses 30 pin SIMMs. It's an AMD 386DX40, and has a > IIT 3C87-40 > coprocessor installed. Vroom! :) > If I have an ISA video card, it's probably something > pretty basic like a > Cirrus Logic or Trident board. That takes more > digging ;) Yeah, not

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Terry Mathews
A) Depending on who built the computer, there could be just about anything onboard. I've seen 386s with literally nothing onboard, and 386's with serial/parallel/video/scsi onboard. B) Comparing any PC to a Mac hardware-wise in that era is a bad idea. For example, a well-equipped 386/40 (Model t

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Bill Zipprich
To: "Vintage Macs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:43 PM Subject: Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished > > --- Bill Zipprich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remember guys, the IIfx had IOP's! > > > > This was a

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Bill Zipprich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Remember guys, the IIfx had IOP's! > > This was an advanced feature. Similar to IBM > mainframes with channel > processors for I/O. > > I don't know if PC's ever had that kind of advanced > hardware. 16550N UARTS, that ought to at least equal the

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Bill Zipprich
ge Macs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gregg Eshelman Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:52 PM To: Vintage Macs Subject: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished --- Ken Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how serious you are about this, but I&#x

Re: IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Ken Scott
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > --- Ken Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't know how serious you are about this, but I'm > > pretty sure that I > > have a 386/40 PC board in my basement (I only wish I > > threw out the old > > junk... > > > > I also just got a IIfx, but

IIfx VS 386DX/40 Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Ken Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know how serious you are about this, but I'm > pretty sure that I > have a 386/40 PC board in my basement (I only wish I > threw out the old > junk... > > I also just got a IIfx, but don't know what it has > in it, other than a > sticker on the

Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Ken Scott
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > --- Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I have used a IIfx myself for quite a while. It is > > an oke machine. > > > > BTW Internet browsing is not exactly a lowend > > activity, not for > > computers of this vintage. They are ac

Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >How about a head to head internet performance > >comparo? 386DX/40 VS IIfx. > Don't forget to give the 386 a 40 mhz bus speed mobo > otherwise it wouldn't be fair :-) > > Marten That's what the 386DX/40 is. Full 32bit CPU on a 40Mhz b

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
> > >I hope that during its fourth life in a student's room it will be >>>used to create great photographic artwork that will astonish the >>>galleries in Paris, Milan and New York. >> >>Nah - it is added to my library of 'Power 68ks', along with my >>stacked 840av as examples of just how powerf

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit unreal. A IIci with 32 mb ram, a > 500 mb hd and 33 mhz 68040 is definetely not tricked out. It can > contain 4 times as much ram, a much and much larger hard disk and > there are faster upgrades (ppc 601) available. I stuck 128MB in my NetBSD IIci and it

Re: IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
> >How about a head to head internet performance >comparo? 386DX/40 VS IIfx. Give them both the same >amount of RAM (ISTR some DX/40 boards with 72pin >SIMM slots) and contomperary era accelerated >video cards. :) Using the same external modem would >eliminate that as a difference and they could e

IIfx online Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Marten van de Kraats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have used a IIfx myself for quite a while. It is > an oke machine. > > BTW Internet browsing is not exactly a lowend > activity, not for > computers of this vintage. They are actually a bit > to slow to do it > properly and some content i

High priced videocards. Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
What I have a hard time figuring out is why video card companies love to charge around $5,000 for the latest and greatest thing? From the earliest 24bit cards for Mac and PC right to the present day where they can make the same AGP or PCI hardware for both, the prices have stayed about the same.

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
> >I hope that during its fourth life in a student's room it will be >>used to create great photographic artwork that will astonish the >>galleries in Paris, Milan and New York. > >Nah - it is added to my library of 'Power 68ks', along with my >stacked 840av as examples of just how powerful Macs

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
>The word 'out' suggests that there is no room for improvement... Not really :). 'Tricked Out' is the US English equivalent of 'Decked Out' which means 'jazzed up' or enhanced. >BTW being used as an isdn router for the last 5 years isn't so bad... >That means that it was able to be usefull for

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
> >A 'tricked out' machine doesn't have to be done up to max. possible >sped, that'd be 'maxed out'. It is significantly faster, graphically >beautiful (well as beautiful as 7.1 default graphics could be :) ) >and runs the same res. as my 7500/200. I found Photoshop 3.0.4 >surprisingly fast, don't

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
>The Atto is still unused, but should >boost disk performance Hmmm the one thing I can't afford is a SEIV (try not to kill this one!) and a UW-SCSI drive. I have a pair of 9GB Cheetahs (overkill I know but they are scheduled to move into my OS X machine, when I get a job and buy on, comple

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
> >Your IIci is tricked out! > >I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit unreal. A IIci with 32 mb ram, a >500 mb hd and 33 mhz 68040 is definetely not tricked out. It can >contain 4 times as much ram, a much and much larger hard disk and >there are faster upgrades (ppc 601) available. > >> >>How is

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
>Marten > >Good points you raised! > >32mb ram and 7.6.1 on the IIfx should hopefully allow internet browsing. It will allow Internet browsing. No doubt about that. iCab will do pretty well. > >If not, I'll buy a Quadra 950. I myself am working at home on a Quadra 840av, while my 'state of the

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
> 32mb ram and 7.6.1 on the IIfx should hopefully allow internet browsing. > > If not, I'll buy a Quadra 950. my Weed Whacker does Nutscrape 3 with 20Mb and 7.6.1 quite well no slower than my 8500 and 9600 doing IE 5.1... or the SE/30 doing MacWeb! Mmmm, 1bit dither. Ben. -- Vintage

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Bill Zipprich
an de Kraats Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:13 PM To: Vintage Macs Subject: Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished >I can't speak for others, but I'm tired of being on the treadmill where I'm >constantly upgrading to the latest hardware. > >My IIfx will be used for Internet browsing, ema

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
>I can't speak for others, but I'm tired of being on the treadmill where I'm >constantly upgrading to the latest hardware. > >My IIfx will be used for Internet browsing, email and other low-end >activities. I'm sure it will work just fine for those purposes. > >That's my personal revolt against th

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marco van de Voort
> > My Hi Spec. Macintosh IIci is finished. Boy is it ever sweet. Spec follows: > > 32MB RAM > 33MHz Turbo '040 > 4MB Radius Thunder IV 1360 GX > 500MB Hard Disk 32 MB RAM 40 MHz Sonnet Presto Plus _OR_ 50MHz DayStar + copro Atto Silicon Express II SCSI 2 GB Quantum. I use the DayStar 68030 a

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
>--- Desert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've got 2 IIcx's with 80MB RAM... >> >> I paid almost $3,000 for some of those Thunder IV GX >> cards in various >> resolutions. The DSP acceleration is kick butt. The >> best is converting to >> CMYK, which is sped up by a huge factor. > >My II

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Marten van de Kraats
>Your IIci is tricked out! I'm sorry, but this is getting a bit unreal. A IIci with 32 mb ram, a 500 mb hd and 33 mhz 68040 is definetely not tricked out. It can contain 4 times as much ram, a much and much larger hard disk and there are faster upgrades (ppc 601) available. > >How is the perf

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Bill Zipprich
Mark Benson Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:36 AM To: Vintage Macs Subject: Hi-Spec IIci finished My Hi Spec. Macintosh IIci is finished. Boy is it ever sweet. Spec follows: 32MB RAM 33MHz Turbo '040 4MB Radius Thunder IV 1360 GX 500MB Hard Disk Here's that screenshot I promised every

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
> Yeah, that's why I put in the part about installing the control panel. Try > getting the driver from here: > > http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/video/knighttech/ thanks, i'll give it a go. Ben. -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://w

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Terry Mathews
> oh, don't get me wrong, I know exactly why the IIfx was called "Wicked > Fast"... it's just the video card itself doesn't seem as accelerated as some > other cards, though I'm sure it still cost thousands of dollars. Yeah, that's why I put in the part about installing the control panel. Try ge

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
> Umm... In 1990, you would've been happy to be able to run 24bit video at > all. > > Video will probably be accelerated after installing the RasterOps control > panel. > > And, as far as your IIfx not being a serious power machine, consider that it > lived between 1990 and 1992, and that someone

Re: RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Terry Mathews
Umm... In 1990, you would've been happy to be able to run 24bit video at all. Video will probably be accelerated after installing the RasterOps control panel. And, as far as your IIfx not being a serious power machine, consider that it lived between 1990 and 1992, and that someone probably paid

Re: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Desert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got 2 IIcx's with 80MB RAM... > > I paid almost $3,000 for some of those Thunder IV GX > cards in various > resolutions. The DSP acceleration is kick butt. The > best is converting to > CMYK, which is sped up by a huge factor. My IIci with the Tu

RastorOps Painboard Li card - anyone got any details? WAS: Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread b e n w e l l s | headwerkx
On the topic of old NuBus graphics accelerators: My IIfx came with a RastorOps Paintboard Li card, and I was wondering if anyone here knew, well, anything about them.. info on the web is near non existent, I'm curious how much they cost originally, when they came out, how they rated against other

Hi-Spec IIci finished

2002-08-20 Thread Mark Benson
My Hi Spec. Macintosh IIci is finished. Boy is it ever sweet. Spec follows: 32MB RAM 33MHz Turbo '040 4MB Radius Thunder IV 1360 GX 500MB Hard Disk Here's that screenshot I promised everyone :) : I did say it'd be a bit big! Photoshop 3.0.4 was al