Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Allan Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know if this is relevant to the question > you're asking or > not, but the IIfx had unusual/unorthodox SCSI. Not > like the SCSI on any other Mac. It had ordinary SCSI2, except that early production had a bit of a problem when nothing was co

Differential SCSI Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have a differential scsi PDS card for my IIfx and > it has a single > ended connector what i use for the internal > harddrive. What purpous was > the differential connector? it looks the same as a > normal 50p internal connector. Differential SCSI is wir

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-06 Thread Powermac
- Original Message - From: "simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vintage Macs" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:57 PM Subject: Re: more mac models -the end- > > On 6-jul-05, at 5:36, Scott Baret wrote: > > > The IIfx requires a 200 ohm terminati

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-06 Thread simon
On 6-jul-05, at 5:36, Scott Baret wrote: The IIfx requires a 200 ohm terminating resistor. Apple used to sell black terminators for the IIfx. Thse were for external devices. I would assume that this the internal equivalent. However, I have heard of IIfx's using regular grey SCSI terminators and

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-06 Thread Joey Sager
Sorry, I meant to say that I used to have a IIfx and the gray terminators worked fine for me. Joe Scott Baret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The IIfx requires a 200 ohm terminating resistor. >Apple used to sell black terminators for the IIfx. >Thse were for external devices. I would assume that >

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-06 Thread Joey Sager
I used to have a IIfx, and the black terminators worked just fine for me. Joe Scott Baret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The IIfx requires a 200 ohm terminating resistor. >Apple used to sell black terminators for the IIfx. >Thse were for external devices. I would assume that >this the internal equi

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-05 Thread Scott Baret
The IIfx requires a 200 ohm terminating resistor. Apple used to sell black terminators for the IIfx. Thse were for external devices. I would assume that this the internal equivalent. However, I have heard of IIfx's using regular grey SCSI terminators and not having a problem despite what Apple says

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-05 Thread Allan Hunter
I don't know if this is relevant to the question you're asking or not, but the IIfx had unusual/unorthodox SCSI. Not like the SCSI on any other Mac. At 12:26 AM +0200 7/6/05, simon wrote: On 5-jul-05, at 21:49, Manuel Marques wrote: well that's all fooks!! lets continue with chats on OL

Re: more mac models -the end-

2005-07-05 Thread simon
On 5-jul-05, at 21:49, Manuel Marques wrote: well that's all fooks!! lets continue with chats on OLD macs. that is where vintage.macs is all about, is'nt it? Question: i have a differential scsi PDS card for my IIfx and it has a single ended connector what i use for the internal harddr

Re: more mac models

2005-07-05 Thread Manuel Marques
''Another cheap PC marketing tactic I hope Apple doesn't fall into with the new generation is a low priced model with a hot CPU that's woefully inadequate in one or two critical areas. The big PC OEMs love to sell cheap boxen running XP Home with only 256megs, or worse, 128megs, onboard video using

Re: more mac models

2005-07-05 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2005-07-05 16:13, Allan Hunter wrote: > As originally conceived, the models would all be identified by > numbers [giant yawn] and the numbers would follow this formula > > 1st digit: form factor > 2nd digit: processor line > Last 2 digits: model specifics, variants > > That's what they sai

Re: more mac models

2005-07-05 Thread Allan Hunter
I hope Apple never returns to the nonsensical naming convention + 10 zillion models lineup of the late 90s! As originally conceived, the models would all be identified by numbers [giant yawn] and the numbers would follow this formula 1st digit: form factor 2nd digit: processor line Last 2 d

Re: more mac models

2005-07-04 Thread Joey Sager
Ruffin Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Remember how quickly the unsupported Mezzanine slot disappeared >from the original iMac... That slot rocked. I put in a Formac SCSI & Video-in card. A lot of people said to me "why on earth would you consider a SCSI drive to be useful when there's USB?

Re: more mac models

2005-07-04 Thread Uncle Mel
In a message dated 7/3/05 5:56:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm into production.I think that I would go for the digital photography once I get a camera. I archive on the computer, too much advancement and cannot use archives. I use zip drives, I use floppy disks, I have a burner, but I

Re: more mac models

2005-07-04 Thread LbtJudge
In a message dated 7/3/05 5:56:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > I'm not into games, music or surfing the web. So what are you into? What would you want in a new Apple product? John >> I'm into production. Writing with word processor (I have about 6, mastered 1, or almost anyway). I use t

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread Ruffin Bailey
On the topic in general, I'm not sure Apple needs more models. I do wish the consumer models had some method of expansion; my StarMax 3000 stayed in use as I went through three iMacs and my Celeron powered WinPC has lasted me years thanks to easy hardware upgradability -- and an OS that's happy to

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread John Niven
On Jul 3, 2005, at 2:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I probably have purchased my last Macintosh. I have a goodly supply now, some 68xxx models and some PCI Power Macs and a B&W with 10. The B& W is useless, I have nothing that will run on it except AOL. I don't like 10 enough to learn it

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread LbtJudge
In a message dated 7/2/05 10:21:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And why on earth would you consider a floppy drive to be useful >> If you have floppy disks they are indispensable. LBT -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.s

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread LbtJudge
In a message dated 7/2/05 2:51:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hello, Nowadays, the number of Mac models on market is very small: we only have one high-end, more expandable Mac (PowerMac); two more consumer models (iMac and eMac) and the ever-present Mac mini (and of course the laptops and t

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread Joost van de Griek
On 2005-07-03 11:22, Gregg Eshelman wrote: > I keep saying Apple needs to pay attention to the "power user" customer. There > are folks still hanging onto their 9500/9600 because they really, truely NEED > SIX PCI SLOTS. Umm. People who can plod along with a 9600 over a dual G5 simply because the

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- John Niven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd love to know what you put in your 5 PCI slots? > And why on earth > would you consider a floppy drive to be useful - > except if you want to > boot MSDOS :-P > > You sure offend easily. The only use there is for > optical media is > loading progr

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- John Niven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you looked at the way the PC motherboard market > is going? Most > have onboard ethernet, sound, and RAID interfaces. > Many have basic > video, and I think more of that is coming. I built > PC's for my gaming > sons that only have one expansion

Re: more mac models

2005-07-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Manuel Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, Hello. Welcome to our nightmare. ;) > Apple should rethink, because one of the main > reasons people don't buy a Mac > is because it isn't expandable (even the G5 has only > 3 PCI slots, with a GF > 6800 in the PCI-X it only has 2). What hap

Re: more mac models

2005-07-02 Thread John Niven
I'd love to know what you put in your 5 PCI slots? And why on earth would you consider a floppy drive to be useful - except if you want to boot MSDOS :-P You sure offend easily. The only use there is for optical media is loading programs, or for bootlegging copyright material. If you have a 2

Re: more mac models

2005-07-02 Thread Joey Sager
Really? Not sure where you're coming from, there. I built a PC for myself and used all 5 PCI slots, 3 CD bays, 3 hard drive bays, and a floppy drive bay. One thing that offends me about the Power Macintosh's right now is that there is only 1 CD bay and 3 PCI ports. I mean, 1 CD drive? With

Re: more mac models

2005-07-02 Thread John Niven
Have you looked at the way the PC motherboard market is going? Most have onboard ethernet, sound, and RAID interfaces. Many have basic video, and I think more of that is coming. I built PC's for my gaming sons that only have one expansion card slot used - for the fancy video card. More is being

more mac models

2005-07-02 Thread Manuel Marques
Hello, Nowadays, the number of Mac models on market is very small: we only have one high-end, more expandable Mac (PowerMac); two more consumer models (iMac and eMac) and the ever-present Mac mini (and of course the laptops and the Xserve line). But there's something missing! In the early (and mi