Hi all. As my own opinion, I think because of the accessibility of apps to
everybody around the world, someone may think that is the reasonable price but
someone else may think that's a crazy one. For the living cost in your country,
you may think 9$ for an app is ok, reasonable but for the poor
Wow. well, thanks for making it personal, there. Appreciate that, but not so
much. What *I* personally have a problem with, since you brought it up, is
anything that raises the barriers that sight imposes between blind and sighted
persons, instead of lowering them or making that barrier meanin
Hi,
NLS books take 11 MB per hour, so that should give you some idea how much space
is required.
Cheers,
Anna
On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Tom Lange wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm really curious about how much storage would be required for a substantial
> collection of BARD books. I have students w
It almost sound to me this is a hardware issue, since it's the OP's only iPhone
5 that exhibits this behavior. I'm no tech, but it sure sounds like an antenna
issue of some sort. BTW, is the OP (original poster) checking the amount of
bars of wifi signal? Even if it's showing 4 bars, there co
Hi Christopher and Mark,
You are correct, Christopher, Garmin has no reason why they should engage in
such a partnership, in fact, they would never do so since they would have to
give Sendero access to their entire code and then make sure what Sendero
does is not messing up anything else. Navigon,
Judy Dixon didn't really mention it, but I assume you can still download
books to your PC and then transfer them over to your iPhone to use in
the BARD Mobile app. I know they don't want to depend on iTunes, but I
think they also said that the books they read now with the alpha are
being copied ove
Navigon, TomTom, and a few others have added features useable by the blind.
This is about the best we're going to get unless we go with a company focused
on access for the blind. That said, most companies focused on access for the
blind do not know how to design for the sighted. Apple is one of
I am glad they are going to have 3 different sources of maps as some are
likely better than others in given areas. I always wondered why I find on
Foursquare that the old and new names of a given place are both there, but
the new name that took over the old building now magically has a completel
Hi,
I'm really curious about how much storage would be required for a substantial
collection of BARD books. I have students who download a lot of BARD books and
I'm continually amazed at how quickly they can fill up an 8 or 16-gig SD card.
Also, I would expect that you'd need a good strong wi-f
I'm not sure how this would work. What would be Garmin's motivation for
doing this? I'm not sure the development costs still wouldn't be more to
provide an accessible option to a given product than develop an
accessible product from the ground up. The amortization argument was
mostly targeted at th
Hi,
I haven't tried Vizwiz in ages and will have to take it for a spin some time
soon just to see how it's doing. Tap Tap See is indeed a great little app, and
perhaps a bit less labor-intensive. The last few times I've used it to
identify things like boxes of baking soda, cake mix and other t
On another list, Mike said that local storage will not be possible, at least
at first, but some local storage may be a later possibility.
Andy
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From: Tom Lange
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Announcing the Seeing
Hi,
Having just downloaded a copy of the user guide, I can tell you that it
doesn't say anything about maps being stored locally on the device. It does
say that in the settings screen you can choose your map source, with a
choice of either OSM or NavTeq. For POI data, you have a choice of usin
So it would still make more sense to partner with a company who makes such a
silent, visually appealing app, and piggy-back a Sendero type level of verbal
interaction at the user's command. This, after all, is what VoiceOver does to
the native IOS when it's invoked. Then, this amortization thi
You are correct. In fact, many sighted people complain if their GPS starts
talking to them while they are walking. They prefer to occasionally glance at
the display to confirm they are still heading in the correct direction, and
prefer an unobtrusive alert if they go off course while walking. I
Yes, you are missing a very big something. It is called cost amortisation, and
it is done by every company. Amortisation means splitting fixed costs across
the entire base.
In North America, Navigon costs $30 to $50. In NZ, on the other hand, Navigon
costs $70 USD for maps which are significant
She said it will probably be released around the time of the conventions in
July.
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On Feb 27, 2013,
I guess that's a theoretical question, then: If Sendero made their app
prettier, more visually appealing, more eye candy, with maps and whatever,
would it cost too much in terms of labor and drive even the fair market price
up, or would it drive the price up to target an app for a "backwater,"
Hi Mark,
I get your point, but the fact is that it is highly unlikely that Sendero's
Seeing Eye app will appeal to tens of thousands of sighted users.
Sighted people to a large extend want visual apps with pretty maps in colour
and 3D, street view and all sorts of stuff. They do want voice guidanc
Hi,
Did she say when this might be released? I so hope it's in a timely manner. :)
Courtney
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kevin Barry wrote:
> On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview
> with Judy Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated
I too have been able to stream just fine on LTE and on an Airport
express router as well as some other routers with two different IPhone
5 units, one a CDMA and one a GSM model.
On 2/27/13, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Grant,
>
> I guess your best solution would be to at least insist that you get
On the Blind Access Journal there is an interview with Judy
Dixon who represents the NLS. She demonstrated an early version of
the forthcoming IOS app for BARD. This is of great interest to those
of us in the U.S.
The app seems very promising. Direct download from the site, i.e no
iTunes
I too am interested in this app. I also like what I have heard about
the app from APH called Near By Explorer. It is only on the Android
platform to the best of my knowledge right now. There is a great demo
of it on blind-geek-zone.net. Its cost is about $100.00. I think that
is reasonable. It is t
Unless I'm missing something, the last time I checked, NaviGon was under
$50 for maps that covered some subset of North America. I don't think it
would cost you a couple of hundred dollars unless you got maps for a
large part of the world.
On 27/02/13 20:34, David Chittenden wrote:
> I am willing
This is my point; if Sendero is smart, they'll built an app that EVERYONE will
want, even if blind people most of all, and then they can charge less for it,
reaching a broader market. Supply and demand.
Mark BurningHawk
Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
Home page: Http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
I am willing to bet that online maps are significantly less expensive. Consider
that apps with built-in maps are about 100 or more times the cost, and that is
with amortisation across a very large market. Unless people are willing to
spend several hundred to a thousand dollars for the app, you a
Hi Grant,
Definitely good points, I do have an unlocked phone, but when I was on Maui
last April for 2 weeks I didn't bother to get a local SIM. AT&T is the best
option there as far as coverage and they basically told me I could not have
a prepaid SIM with data. When I went to Las Vegas last Novem
Hi Grant,
I guess your best solution would be to at least insist that you get to try
any replacement phone they give you before you walk out of the store.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Sent
I read through the available documentation. It says nothing about on-board
maps in the user guide either. Sorry Chuck but in correcting someone you
should make sure that you are indeed correct yourself.
DJ
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c
HI Patrick,
I tried VizWiz again this time using the IQ engine and I got an answer
almost immediately. I guess it depends on what you're asking also as to
which source would be the best.
I'm going to work with this some more.
Thanks!
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well, anyone try this?
"The Inquisitor Audiogame Adventure"
Will of steel, heart of stone, intelligence as sharp as a knife and wisdom deep
as oblivion.
The inquisitor is called to investigate an obscure case, beyond heresy, that
reveals a new face of Evil. He must tackle many arduous tasks. He m
Hi Sieghard,
Like you, I'm not too concerned about GPS apps chewing through huge
amounts of data. The bigger concern for me is reliability. Cellular
data isn't always perfect and it seems clear that you are more likely
to get a smooth experience if map data is stored locally rather than
in the clo
Yep, I have an unlocked phone and I've tried on 3G, LTE and WIFI in
two countries. I've replaced my router, I've replaced my phone, I've
tried countless streams and countless WIFI networks and the problem
still persists. It's a puzzle, all right.
My iPhone wasn't replaced for at least a couple wee
Looking for other users of this ap. Would love to talk off list
Peace Stancil Tootle
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Hi Craig,
You can use the headphone controls to rewind and fast forward. You can also
double-tap the Home button when the iPHone is locked to bring up the player
controls, which include Rewind and Fast Forward. The Next and Previous Track
commands that also appear move you to the next and previ
Hello Debbie:
I am sorry that you got such a slow response from vizwiz. that is not the norm.
Try switching on IQ engine and see if you get a better response. I am a fan of
both Tap Tap See and vizwiz. Having options never hurts :).
Let us know if switching on IQ engines works for you if you tr
Thanks Patrick,
Yes, I finally got an answer but it sure was slow. I was using the Web
Worker option.
I think I may stick with TapTap See!
Thank you!
Debbie
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Sent: Wednesday, February 27,
Hello Debbie:
Vizwiz is working here. Remember to take the picture, make the recording, stop
the recording, press send and wait for a few seconds. sometimes, depending upon
the picture, it might take a few minutes to receive a response. It took about 7
minutes for me to receive a response to a
Hello,
Does anyone know if the VizWiz app is still working? Frankly I've never used
it and just tried it for the first time but can't get it to work. It comes
back with an answers heading but there are no answers and it tells me to
start over. I tried using the Web Workers.
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Hi Mary,
I totally look forward to being able to buy the app, but I also expect that
this is not going to be the first and final release which has every feature
and lacks every bug. Let's give Sendero a chance, they have to start
somewhere and I think there comes a time when an app like this has t
Hi Cristobal,
If you google "official iPhone repair" you find a bunch of stuff. Here is
one I thought sounded promising since they do say they have many locations
for walk-in repairs in addition to doing mail-in rpeiars:
http://www.iFixYourI.com
I guess the only thing one has to be care
Hi Sieghard,
The users' guide makes no mention of map storage one way or the other. Mike was
very clear that this is the first iteration of the app, and they're going to be
listening to user feedback to help guide further app development. There are
features that users of the other Sendero produ
Hi Chuck and Mary,
I agree with Mary, unless they say in the user guide that maps are stored
locally on the phone there is no reference to that anywhere on the website.
Since Mary seems to have more insight in that due to the discussion group
she was on and because Sendero LookAround also uses dat
I just downloaded the weather channel app and it seems pretty accessible.
Has anyone else tried this app. I was just wondering what others think of
it.
JoJo
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Hi Charles,
I am not sure what part of the website you found that talks about maps being
on the phone. Maybe it's in the user guide which I admit I haven't read and
probably won't read until I have the app, but here is the entire blurb I
found on Sendero's website about the Seeing Eye app and I do
Chuck, I had read that info before when the announcement first came out. It
does not say that the 2 map sources, osm and Navteq are available on the
device. It says that the app draws from two map sources, which does not mean
they are on the device. Given what Mike May said, I think you are rea
Hi Craig,
I just tried this and it works fine for me. I first tried the Sleep Timer
with "End of Chapter" as a choice since I happened to have only 3 minutes
left of the chapter. The chapter finished and then the app stopped playing,
I went back in the app and started playing and it resumed wit
Chuck,
Where did you see that maps would be included on the phone? I ask that because
I was party to a discussion on their gps-talk list where Mike May said that
maps on the phone is not included at this time in this release. Several people
said they would like that feature, but I wonder why Mi
Hi, you can also do a two-finger double-tap and Siri will listen to
whatever your response is.
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On 2/26/2013 9:32 PM, Fred Olver wrote:
My experience is that u
Hello all,
There has been lot of supposition about this app.
Here is a link that has the facts.
http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm
Chuck
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Mary,
Not true!
Reas this:
http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm
Chuck
On Feb 27, 11:23 am, Mary Otten wrote:
> On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has
> been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there
> would
On line maps only, nothing on the phone at this time, although that topic has
been raised by several on the gps-talk list, so Sendero knows that there would
be people who want the ability to store at least some map info on the phone.
Mary
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Good idea, though still dependent on Siri getting a connection and working.
- Original Message -
From: "Andy Baracco"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: 911 app?
Why not just set up 911 as a contact, and just press and hold the home btn
and say "Call 911"?
And
I wish the people replying to these posts would read the information before
they post. According to the website, Sandero is indeed going to include maps on
the phone.
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
Hi Krister,
Considering how relatively little Navigon has done so far I wouldn't hold my
breath. Yes, the app is pretty accessible, but there is a difference between
whether I can use it and whether it has the features I want or need.
Regards,
Sieghard
-Original Message-
From: viphone@g
Hi Marco,
Depending on what case you buy, the iPhone can be as waterproof as you want
it to be from being somewhat splash proof to being fully capable of going
down to 100 feet during scuba diving.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c
I love the alarmed app! I believe the paid version also gives you day minders.
Say for example, you want to be reminded something every 2 hours from 8 AM to
4 PM. Great for medication or something.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/alarmed-reminders-+-timers/id371886784?mt=8
Traci
1 step, 2 st
Hi Bob,
Sendero LookAround uses data to look up map information and somehow I doubt
they would put the maps on the phone, but I guess we'll see. Keep in mind
that your GPS application accessing map data will not use up huge amounts of
data. I am also in Canada and while I am now on a 2 Gig plan I
I like the new interface. I only have problem with activating the
keyboard with single tap. I can never do it in one attempt.
I had a question too. Can you tretrievethe texxtafter using it in
sending naan eal or pasting in some other program? How.
Thanks and regards
On 2/24/13, Jenifer Barr w
Hello Mark,
I don't think there is much point in making a big deal out of the fact that
the Seeing Eye app is designed with the blind user in mind and has features
which may not be of much value to a sighted person. If a sighted person
comes up to an intersection they do not need their GPS app
That could get very expensive. I suggest instead, that you check out apple vix
, Which is a great resource for people have already tested apps and giving
their opinions. Here's a link:
http://www.applevis.com/
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 10
The only disappointing thing is that for the first realise it is north
America only. Still fingers crossed it will be updated for the rest of the
world soon!
Louise.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 27 February 2013 6:05
Hello all,
Recently, Audible.com updated their iPhone app. The app includes a sleep
timer that will allow for listening but will automatically turn off the book
after the desired amount of time (e.g., 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 45 minutes,
etc.). One would choose the desired amount of time with a o
I wonder what the people finder app is like and how it works.
Also was just wondering if anybody on list has received an email to say they
were selected as a tester.
Take care,
Louise.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Se
Exactly,
Still I'm looking forward to listening to podcasts and seeing what others
think of the app when it coes out so I can decide whether or not to buy it.
I think having map data from more than source is brilliant but realise you
can only have one source selected at once. It would be good to be
I hope to get an Iphone with Sprint as my carrier, and hope to have it some
time in the next two weeks. After that, you can bet I"m going to test every GPS
app around, including this one.
Maybe what we should be asking ourselves here is not whether this is a "ghetto
product," for the blind, but
I think we should stop guessing the price of this yet to come app. I am sure
there will be plenty of discussion about the price once the app is released.
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:09 AM, "Raul A. Gallegos" wrote:
> Hi Andy. In that case
Hi Andy. In that case we can expect a price of more than $50. Personally if it
would meet my needs and allow me to travel using a single app and it's
completely VoiceOver friendly then I would easily pay $70 or $80 for it.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:14 AM, "Andy Baracco" wrote:
> On another list, M
Hi please disregard. I accidentally responded to the wrong message.
Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:
> From: denise avant
> Date: February 27, 2013, 10:56:18 AM CST
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"
> Subject: Re: 911 app?
>
> Hi Edward, thanks so much for those instructions. S
Hi Edward, thanks so much for those instructions. So I should upgrade to vm 5
from 3. Then install windows 7 from inside of vm and once that is done then I
can install my windows screenreader from inside vmward. Just trying to make
sure I have the sequence right. and that I can do all of it wit
I also have this Call 911 app from Tobias Werner and have posted about in
the last round of discussion about the topic of emergency calling. I would
agree that it is a good choice although there are a ton of such apps out
there and I'm sure there are others which would work. I do like the fact
that
Hi Andy,
It doesn't work that way. I am not sure why, but I tried it and still SIRI
won't dial it.
Regards,
Sieghard
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Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:20 AM
To: viphone@goog
Hi Rob,
I don't think this is meant to be used to learn a second language. I think
it's a tool which allows you to maybe ask basic things if you are in a
country where you don't speak the language. I am bilingual in German and
English and I can definitely verify that especially if you tell it to
t
Hi,
I have been told it is pacific time zone, which is eight hours behind greenwich
mean time. That would be ten PMGMT
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 1:48 AM, Mária Orovčíková
wrote:
> Hi list,
> talking about presentation they said:
> "Febru
Hi Don and Grant,
Depending on how quick the iPhone was replaced there is always a chance that
it is from the same batch. Grand, just to verify, you have tried to stream
on somebody else's WiFi, correct? I think you said you did, but this would
be a good way to make sure it is not a problem wit
This is a great app. It's easy to use for those of us who aren't real
computer savvy, and even the default voice sounds good! This is the first
app I've used that I will try to go and give a 5-star rating to. Thanks for
all you've done to make a cost friendly accessible and practical app.
God b
eAs stated before, they needed one hundred testers and over three hundred
people responded in the first twenty four hours.
They do not need any more testers.
Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze any tie ping or spelin airors.
On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:29 AM, DJ wrote:
> I sure would like to know what th
Siri works far more seamlessly when I turn VoiceOver off. I tend to do this
more often lately, when asking Siri to text, setting a timer or calendar event,
etc. I like how I keep the phone to my ear and I can complete an entire task
privately with Siri.
hTH,
Traci
Sent from my iPhone
On Fe
I saved this post from the Accessible-IOS list about a 911 app.
I bought this one and another one called Emergency Contact. The Emergency
Contact one called 911 when I was just feeling the screen to see what was
there. I ended the call and they called me back. I explained it was an
acciden
There are several waterproof cases for the iPhone. I have an inexpensive
case I use when I take it kayaking.
On 27/02/13 09:29, Rocket wrote:
> What I am really looking for in a GPS product is something that is
> waterproof. It doesn't matter how many great features it has if it
> can't handle th
Hello.
The reason I asked about price earlier was simply to know how much I would be
paying to obtain the product. There is little question that I will be
purchasing it. The only factors that might convince me otherwise is if Canadian
maps are not available or if maps are only available via da
Hi Cheryl,
I use an app called 1touch911 which I have on my home page right on top. I
would have to double tap that icon, then I am presented with a choice to
double tap 911 or the name of one of two people to contact in case of
emergency. These people are entered in the settings. The app also
What I am really looking for in a GPS product is something that is waterproof.
It doesn't matter how many great features it has if it can't handle the being
in the cold or rainy conditions.
Marco
Sent from my iPad
On 2013-02-26, at 23:36, "Raul A. Gallegos" wrote:
> The one thing to keep
It's also worth bearing in mind that regardless of the price, unless of
course it's free, there will be some people who think it's too much.
This is understandable since the blind span the economic spectrum. It's
also human nature and not specific to the blind.
There are also those who will label
Hi,
She explained why in her message. She's worried in an emergency, Siri might
not be able to understand her or, the server is down, etc.
Ricardo Walker
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 8:20 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> Why not jus
I believe the test flight program is completely full now, so do not worry about
it.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
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On 26/02/13 23:31, Chuck Dean wrote:
> Have your friend send an email to:
> viphone+subscr...@googlegroups.com
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Feb 26, 10:14 pm,
I sure would like to know what the e-mail address is to reply to in order to
receive the test flight information? Does anyone have such information and
is willing to share it? Thank you.
DJ
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
O
Do we know if this particular app will draw it's map data from stored maps on
the phone or will you require a data plan to access map information? Thank you.
Bob Fenton
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-02-26, at 11:49 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> That is Pacific time. CSUN is in San Diego, Californ
One other nugget of thought to bear in mind, whatever is charged, Apple will be
nabbing 30% of that, so just bear that in mind when the criticisms begin to
flow.
Regards,
Neil Barnfather
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That is Pacific time.
Richard
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On Feb 27, 2013, at 12:48 AM, Mária Orovčíková
wrote:
> Hi list,
> talking about presentation they said:
> "February 28, Thursday, 9:30 - 10:30 PM, Testing a Prototype iPhone People
> Finder App
> March 1, Friday, 2:00 - 3
Can you send me details off list of how to join that list please? If that is
if they discuss that App on a group list.
Thank you very much.
Kawal.
On 27 Feb 2013, at 01:14 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than
> the price for
You can also do a two finger double tap to reply.
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Lee"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: re: Responding to a Siri question
Hi,
You can double-tap the buttons corresponding to actions, or you can hold
down the home key, then say
Hi i purchased multi edit and earlier impressions are satisfactory.
Sent from my iPhone
On 27-Feb-2013, at 10:00 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I haven't started using it yet myself, so I don't know if it's the best
> or not, but Multi Edit has been recommended on this list a few times.
> Ha
There is one in the US app store called 911 and it is FREE. I don't know how
accessible it is as I don't have an iPhone, just an iPod. The developer's
name is Zodiac Interactive LLC. You might could try out this one to see if
it is what you are looking for.
-Original Message-
From: Ch
Why not just set up 911 as a contact, and just press and hold the home btn
and say "Call 911"?
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 911 app?
Does anybody know a way to do this or a way to put som
Hi,
Then it will be interesting to see what Navigon is going to offer in the future
that will benefit the blind. If they offer something that is as good or nearly
as good as the Sendero thing,then at least for me, the choise is clear.
/Krister
27 feb 2013 kl. 14:14 skrev "Andy Baracco" :
> On an
This all sounds wonderful, didn't know we could do so much; so what
purpose, could one start to get the basics of a second language with it?
pronunciation and all? difficult to think you'd get good annunciation from
a 'bot voice mind.
Thanks, Rh.
- Original Message -
From: "Esther"
On another list, Mike May said that the price would be a little higher than the
price for a product like Navigon or Tomtom. When people were asked how much
they would pay, most people said that this would be a fair arrangement. There
was talk about a monthly subscription, but he said that this i
The link to that manual please?
Thanks, Rh.
- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Dean"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:08 AM
Subject: Seeing eye app
Hi all,
Something I did not see while reading the seeing eye app's users guide is
the ability to virtually walk a route, which i
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