I have tried "On with Headings" but the information is still not very
consistent, also the threshhold for change of direction seems to be very low so
that headings are announced almost constantly with the slightest change.. I'll
do some more testing and report back. Maybe I simply have to get us
Well, the procedure has changed, then, because they want three separate
questions when I use the iPhone to modify my ID. I can tell because I
flicked to each question in the first list, answered one, and was then
presented with a list of different questions, and the same thing happened
when I
hi, i would try the calendar app. thanks for posting these. i have
been looking for a good calender app. i am now using an app called due
for schedules which is also voiceover compatible but would try this.
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On 02-Mar-2013, at 5:43 AM, Keith Watson wrote:
> HI,
>
> I have not
Hi,
Yes I agree, Apple maps does work quite well. My biggest annoyance with it,
and the reason why I don't use it, is because it eats battery like nobody's
business. It eats about 20% of my battery in 10 minutes. I get much better
mileage out of other GPS apps such as Google maps Navigon and Bl
Hi,
I doubt whether you'll be disappointed, this is the only GPS app I use when on
foot. It really does a great job. I would recommend this app to anybody.
Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
On 03/03/2013, at 2:46 PM, "Andy Baracco" wrote:
> Hard question to answer. I guess that depends on you
I already have a google voice number, wish I had of known about this before
I got the magic jack. Can you send and receive fax with this device?
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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:19
Hi,
The app itself is quite accessible, but it doesn't have very much in the way of
public transport in my area, which is Melbourne Australia.
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On 03/03/2013, at 4:27 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
> That depends on what you require. It is now free, so try it if
That depends on what you require. It is now free, so try it if interested. It
can be finicky in some ways, but I like it now because it accesses more info
than any other app I've tried. The app description lists all the sources.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile:
If you Change tracking on to tracking with headings by double tapping the
button again, VO reads the info consistently.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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On 03/03/2013, at 17:39, Grant Hardy wrote:
> The reasons I do not rely
But BlindSquare provides excellent monitoring (including crossed
streets) in addition to POI discovery and allows you to save your own
POIs and monitor them. It even has its own speech so can work in the
background and while your device is locked. It's the best publically
available app that I've en
My apologies, Chris. I misread his message. Yes, in terms of designing
a blindness specific notetaker, Android would be the clear choice.
Grant
On 3/2/13, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I think you're talking about whether APH will come out with an IOS app
> or not, while I think Andy is talking
The reasons I do not rely on Apple Maps are twofold: firstly, I find
that while tracking information can be spoken by VoiceOver
automatically, it's somewhat inconsistent in comparison to other apps.
An example of a publically available app which for me tracks more
reliably is BlindSquare. I also ad
No, first you have to set up a Google Voice account which lets you either
pick a number or it selects one for you. Then you hook up the OBI100 to your
router, connect a phone into the OBI100, sign into the dashboard with your
Google Voice user ID and password, then it does some calabraating or
I stand corrected. As of two months ago, what I said was true, so I had not
bothered to use it since.
I also had heard nothing about Apple having updated the map data.
I just put in the same troublesome address and it came up with a good route
on the first try.
So, I will be giving Apple Maps a f
what is the OBI 100, does it give you a free number or cereal number or
something to forward calls too?
On Mar 2, 2013, at 7:43 PM, "MamaPeach" wrote:
> That is why I bought the OBI100. I ordered the device from Amazon, hooked it
> up, signed in with my Google Voice account and I have a home ph
How accessible is Localscope with Voiceover?
Andy
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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square
Well, Localscope uses Four-Square amongst other POI services. Click on the
link in the message I
No, I had not gotten to that yet. I was not aware it was there. I'll check
it out.
Thanks.
Neal
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The only issue that i have with it is that if you are using it while in a
vehicle, it can't seem to keep up with you if you are going more than about
30 mph. On a city bus or walking, it probably would be fine. For all it
does, it's well worth the money.
Andy
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Fro
The Apple Maps data has been almost completely corrected since Apple's
introduction of Apple Maps. Unless you have tried it recently, you are going on
very old data. The errors were in the back-end, not on the iPhone, so Apple was
able to fix, and continues to improve Apple Maps. Also, Apple Map
Hard question to answer. I guess that depends on your expectations.
Andy
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Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 5:59 PM
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Subject: Blind square
I bought this app today. Am I going to be disappointed?
Thank you so much!
Jenn
Well, Localscope uses Four-Square amongst other POI services. Click on the link
in the message I just sent to read about it. BlindSquare gives a more
blind-friendly interface, but I use Localscope all the time now. It brings up
the most POI I have seen from any app.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
MotionX GPS is not accessible. MotionX GPS Drive is accessible. You need to be
careful about the one you get.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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On 03/03/2013, at 14:48, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I haven't downloaded it mys
Hi,
In terms of accessibility, there is no change in the new update. Therefore you
are safe to update if you wish. I am running the latest version here.
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On 03/03/2013, at 3:51 AM, "Holly" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I must respectfully disagree with the statemen
I don't use it much, but I see a dictate button on the virtual keyboard
when I go into the Notes app. Are you saying that when you use this
dictate option, the voice recognition isn't as good as when you use SIRI?
On 02/03/13 20:30, Neal Ewers wrote:
> Hi, I’ve gotten spoiled with Siri and how acc
I don't have the problem where the apps and folders seem to move around
on me while I'm moving an app or a folder. One thing I've found that
helps me is to explore the screen to find out where the apps and folders
I'll be moving are located before I start moving anything. Sounds like
you might alre
What sometimes seems to happen to me, and is confusing, is when I start moving
an app, the empty space it leaves as I start moving the app causes all the
other apps beyond that to shift one space closer to the top. At least that's
what it seems to me. So, if I'm targeting an app or folder at ro
I think you're talking about whether APH will come out with an IOS app
or not, while I think Andy is talking about why APH didn't build an IOS
based braille note taker. Since Android is open source, they don't need
to work out any licensing deals with anyone to use Android. This is why
APH has come
So, there isn't much interaction with the game?
I mean something that forces you to do something, something that makes you
use your reflexes, or something? You just walk around talking to people?
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David,
This sounds cool.
Can you give us a primer on how you use all these apps in an integrated way? Is
it as simple as just opening them all and it somehow magically happens?
Does all these apps working simultaneously, and presumably needing their own
gps data, pose a significant battery dra
I don't think you'll be disappointed. I think it is fabulous and is
the best publically-available app I have thus encountered in terms of
providing realtime information.
On 3/2/13, Jennie Facer wrote:
> I bought this app today. Am I going to be disappointed?
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> Jenn
>
> Se
Here's hoping APH will reconsider their position on this (if indeed
this is their position). I cannot imagine any technical restrictions
imposed by Apple that would interfere with a blindness specific GPS
offering. While there is surely a number of people with vision loss
using Android, I would be
Hi there. Thanks for the post on moving apps. I'll check out that podcast as
well on that web site you mentioned as well as try what you mentioned.
Rebecca and Zeb
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On Mar 2, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Rebecca,
First you have
Yes, I have used Apple Maps and there are areas where it is excellent,
though no pedestrian turn-by-turn navigation.
Then there are those areas where it is way off.
>From my office to home it is spot on, and I have never had a GPS app that
could recalculate so quickly.
However, we were going to do
I bought this app today. Am I going to be disappointed?
Thank you so much!
Jenn
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Hi all,
I want to replay an episode of a tv show I was watching. but the app wants to
continue playing the most current one. I have tried double tapping to highlight
to replay the show I want but nothing happens. what can I do? this app may not
be impossible, but its ease of use is probably a 2
The manual for the app is available on the Sendero site. And the app has not
been released, nor has a price been announced. So all we know is what is in the
available documentation, e.g. what are the map sources etc.
Mary
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How do u interact with the inventory.
Also, how do I saddle the horse.
In the inventory, how do u put the saddle on the horse.
On 3/2/13, BBS wrote:
> Hi will. There really isn't any puzzles to solve. It's just basically
> going around and talking to people and collecting various things. The
> ch
Richard,
Have you tried the apple maps? I've heard some people say that they have no
issue with Apple maps. I guess it just depends on the luck of the draw, rather
like Navigon and what it does with Portland.
Mary
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If the price were $100 for three years, I'd buy it. If it were one year, I'd
sadly have to forgo what would probably be a well-designed app.
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Well, I remember such posts, but people are talking like they already
know all about the app and how much it will cost and how it'll work and
so on. Just seems like maybe we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here.
On 02/03/13 19:48, Richard Turner wrote:
> If you missed my original post on this
If you missed my original post on this topic,
1. it has not been released and there is no projected date, it could be
soon or it could be months yet.
2. Mike May stated at CSUN yesterday that the price would likely be around
$100 and he wasn't sure if that would be for one year or up to three y
I haven't downloaded it myself, but it's been discussed on this list as
being accessible with VO, and I believe it's also discussed on
applevis.com. Have you checked out applevis.com yet or looked at the
archive for this list?
On 02/03/13 16:17, David Gross wrote:
> Has anyone downloaded and use
Yes they are under keyboards. It has been awhile but I think under
international keyboards.
On my iPhone, it becomes a second keyboard option on the keyboard. I think
someone told me the visual is a "world" keyboard. To select it go to the left
of space button.
It is a tap and hold to switch
Hi will. There really isn't any puzzles to solve. It's just basically
going around and talking to people and collecting various things. The
character itself solves any complex puzzles.
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The Google Voice site is a real pain to use as far as changing settings.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessing Google Voice - Was Re: speaking of magic jack
Hi, what Google Voice portion are you
That is why I bought the OBI100. I ordered the device from Amazon, hooked it
up, signed in with my Google Voice account and I have a home phone at no
cost to me. I can with my Google Voice account forward calls to a different
phone number if I go out too which is really great. People can call my
Hi Raul,
When I set up the Talkatone app, one of the steps was to log into your
Google Voice account and set it to forward to Google Chat.
I tried to find that with Window-Eyes and NVDA, but no luck. Finally, I
gave up and had my wife look at it and use the mouse to get to the right
place. That w
Hi Soren. If you say you've played the game multiple times, perhaps you
can tell me what to do to make the guy examine the books in the secret
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Well, one thing that I found out is that you can't answer your googlevoice
number it is only a transfer point. I bought an Ivo tech gadget to use with
googlevoice thinking I'd hook my home phone to it and be able to answer the
phone, not true. Luckily for me I had also set up my cell p
Has the Sendero app been released yet or are we still just speculating
on it's price and functionality?
As with all of these discussions, everyone can obviously have an
opinion, but each person needs to decide for themselves if the feature
set is worth the price or not. Sure, you may get close to
Hi, what Google Voice portion are you and Richard talking about? Perhaps
I can give pointers.
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On 3/2/2013 10:46 AM, Fred Olver wrote:
Yes, I agree, I
Try turning the rotor very slowly.
I had the words, characters, etc., the first try, then I just tapped the
screen and it worked fine after that.
Richard
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Hi there. I can't remember why it was that I fo8und that using calendars
from the exchange setup was better than from the normal gmail setup. It
might have been the ability to use shared calendars. I knew I should
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Hi Cara,
What a terrific idea! I am certain this will benefit a lot of new
users of VoiceOver. I had a play with it and mostly it is fun and easy
to get the hang of. I will say though that the second, combination
lock game seems quite buggy at least on my particular iPhone 5.
VoiceOver rarely anno
Hi,
I couldn't agree more. I actually believe the mods have also stated this on
several different occasions as well.
On Mar 2, 2013, at 5:57 PM, "Nadia Mattiazzo" wrote:
> Please please please can people change subjectlines to reflect the contents
> of their messages?
>
> I'm sick and tired o
Unfortunately the alarm record areas is still lacking access the field for the
hour in a minute cannot be read by voice over they have not fixed this after
several updates
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On Feb 28, 2013, at 4:46 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:
> Car mode works as well. So does the ability
I loved Talkatone, but when I purchased the OBI100 to use with my Google Voice
account in order to get free home phone service, it clashed with the Talkatone
app, so I had to remove that app. I miss it a lot, but I prefer having totally
free home telephone service, lol.
From: Richard Turner
Se
Didn't Alva try this with their MPO, and we saw what happened to that.
Andy
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Summary of Seeing Eye app presentation at CSUN
I think the background is that APH and
Larry from APH has said that Apple does not afford the access to the guts of
the OS that they require, and that Apple's business and marketing policies
are too restrictive.
Andy
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I wish the Apple Maps data was too be trusted here, but it isn't.
Richard
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Subject: Re: Summary of Seeing E
Please please please can people change subjectlines to reflect the contents
of their messages?
I'm sick and tired of reading unrelated messages because their subjectlines
have not been changed!
Thank you
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Hey Cara,
What a great app. I already have two people I am working with who are at
the beginner level. I'll get them to use this app.
Looking forward to your new game.
Ron & Danvers
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Hello everybody:
At the risk of offending some people, I offer a different perspective on the
developer of the seeing eye app charging fees every year or every three years.
If the developer went to a one time pricing model, it would have to price the
app higher to recover its development costs
Which is why I have everything covered that the Seeing Eye app will be
providing in a few apps. TomTom and Apple Maps gives me just about everything I
need including names of streets I am passing, turn by turn directions,
automatic routing and rerouting, with onboard maps (TomTom) or online maps
Look at the headset's estimated talk time to know if it will work for the time
required. A Bluetooth stereo headset will last long enough because it has a
larger battery and is designed for continuous use. Unfortunately, unless you
get one with a chord between the ear-cups, it will most likely b
John,
Exactly. You bought a device, it had maps on it. You can now choose to upgrade
or not to upgrade those maps on the device when they become available. If you
do not choose to upgrade the device will continue to work the way it was sold
to you.
Now I buy a device, lets call it an iPhone. I
I wonder if there is an air bubble under your screen protector as well.
Maybe it is just a matter of having someone take it off and put it back on
without the air? I should think they'd be willing to do that for you in the
store where you got your phone and case.
Good luck,
Lois
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Hi David,
Thanks for the information. The white noise idea sounds like a good
solution. Typically, when I use my headset, it's for 2 to 4 hours at a
time. I would think the headset batteries would last that long even with
the white noise playing in the bakground. If not, then I'll have to sta
You can download the Google Maps app from the App Store. Google has had the
Google Maps app since October. I found it to be less accessible than Apple Maps.
APH went with Android because they were creating their new Braille Plus, and
Apple does not allow iOS to be on devices other than the offic
Extremely strange. How did you know it was a different language? Were you
able to see the screen enough to tell?
Neal
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ti
This is normal behaviour, and how Bluetooth earpieces can last more than a few
hours on a charge. You need to have the iPhone send a continuous signal to the
earpiece in order to keep the channel open. Try playing a quiet sound track in
the music player. You can find white noise MP3 tracks on th
thanks Wendy and Richard for your compliments and feedback on this!
We're most definitely interested in feedback from teachers and the general
public as well! So your impressions mean a lot to us! :) Keep them coming!
I'm heading over to AppleVis right now to catch the review!
Thanks again and
Applevis has a demo of this app and it is great!
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 4:40 PM
Subject: RE: LookTel VO Tutorial
I just stumbled upon it when looking for BreadCrumbs and as an instructor of
iDev
Hi Keith,
Thanks for pointing out these apps. I had not heard of either of them
before you mentioned them. I am sure I will go get the conditions app.
I would consider the other one.
On 3/1/13, Keith Watson wrote:
> HI,
>
> I have not seen any chatter about these apps on the list so I thought I
>
I just stumbled upon it when looking for BreadCrumbs and as an instructor of
iDevices, I must say I am impressed.
As a first start, it is excellent!
I'm looking forward to the rest of the lessons/gestures and games.
I'll be informing my clients and other teachers of this great tutorial.
I'll
Well, since I haven't seen this one chatted about here on the list, here goes…
LookTel has just released, this week, a free app called Voiceover Tutorial. (VO
Tutorial)
It is a basic tutorial app for new iPhone / iPod users (soon to be on iPad)
which teaches all of the necessary gestures so a u
No not beta testing. ;) I'm the developer.
I work with LookTel.
My apologies. I thought most here on the list knew so I don't tend to make a
big deal of it. :)
The reason you don't see Breadcrumbs on the App Store as yet is because LookTel
is transitioning to non-profit status, after which we'
On 03/03/2013, at 12:26 AM, "RobH!" wrote:
> I read a thread about these, can't find them, not under keyboard for sure.
> I checked the list and all were real countries. So where are they? or is
> this a latest update thing.
>
> Thanks, RobH.
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Hi all, I am using Fire 2 recorder and am trying to send a file from my
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not set up an ftp account on my phone. Does anyone know how I go about doing
Cara,
I see nothing by Looktel called Breadcrumbs in the app store.
Are you beta testing?
There are a few other breadcrumb apps.
Richard
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To
Google has a public API which anyone can use on any platform to get map and
location data.
LookTel Breadcrumbs GPS uses this currently to retrieve nearest address, street
and city / state info for a traveler's current GPS position.
So the answer to your question is yes. Google Maps is available
Hi,
I agree with Keith on this one. I have purchased the app and am happy with my
purchase. It's not an app you absolutely need, as the inbuilt calendar is fully
accessible. However, the efficiency that this app provides is well worth it in
my opinion. If you rely on the calendar a lot, as I do
I too use Exchange to manage my contacts, but I still enable my Google
Calendar through my Gmail account. I still seem to be able to manage my
Google Calendar this way and subscribe to other interesting calendars.
Your post makes me think I'm missing something though.
On 02/03/13 13:00, Raul A. Ga
hi there
very interesting about the gps receiver. i think mike said the
garmin glo one was difficult to get working for the braille note
and the braille sense products. i agree about the costs again
for us blind people we have to think about the cost of all this.
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There are more reasons to choose Android over IOS than just being an
Android or Google fan boy. Accessibility is just one factor, although be
it a significant one for blind users, when choosing a device. A blind
person may choose a certain amount of inconvenience with regards to
accessibility as a
I disagree, as a former mobile geo user having tested internal vs external
receivers, I believe I personally would want a receiver for my phone, even if
it had one built in.
External receivers increase battery life accuracy and gps performance. Every
inch of accuracy you can eak out of a GPS i
Android also uses the Linux kernel so this makes sense.
On 02/03/13 13:48, Richard Turner wrote:
> I think the background is that APH and Levelstar joined forces to release
> the Braille Plus several years ago based on the Linux platform.
> Apparently, they reached the end of what they could do wi
hi richard i just put in a search for maps here in the uk on the
apple store and it is amazing how many there are truly amazing
also how many gps apps are there as well. as i said earlier at
least we have the choice now. it will be very interesting to see
how it all plans out. i did notice g
I think the background is that APH and Levelstar joined forces to release
the Braille Plus several years ago based on the Linux platform.
Apparently, they reached the end of what they could do with Linux and fell
vastly short of what was promised for that machine.
They chose then to recreate the d
Oh that explains it. Sounds like there is little to no chance that the
APH option is coming to IOS then.
On 3/2/13, David Chittenden wrote:
> APH explained, in an interview last year, that they decided on Android
> because it gives them the flexibility to develop their Braille Plus on the
> platf
Does this still work as I thought it was discontinued for new setups
after the 30th of January.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 02/03/2013 16:08, matthew Dyer wrote:
Jed,
Try setting up as an exchange account. I can work you through how to do this
on skype if you wish. I find that contacts is
There is a population of blind Android usesers that swear by it and
swear off Apple and accept inferior accessibility because their
priority is google and the Android platform. I think there are still
more blind Iphone users because better accessibility is a priority. So
my point is that APH has a
Hi all,
I'm using a Plantronics Voyager Pro Plus with my iPhone 5. The problem I'm
having is that the headset seems to go into a sleep state when nothing is
sent to it for a number of seconds. When this happens, I have to drag my
finger around the display to get the headset working again. Usua
APH explained, in an interview last year, that they decided on Android because
it gives them the flexibility to develop their Braille Plus on the platform;
something which they could not get from Apple. They developed their GPS system
for Braille Plus.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitt
Navigon updates are kind of free. You can opt to pay for more frequent map
updates as I understand it.
I don't like Navigon because here in Portland, OR, it thinks the city is
Lake Jeanclia, which may explain why so many addresses don't show up.
I've deleted the app and reinstalled it and it still
I am sticking with my iPhone. I use TomTom, Apple Maps, Local Scope (which
nicely accesses and integrates multiple sources for POIs, listing, for example,
all of the local bus stops in my city), Where To (though Local Scope has become
my primary app for POIs), Navigon (I much prefer TomTom), iMo
hi there keith interesting but say on my sendero on the apex
because the maps are actually on the machine even though they
will not get updated they will still work and yes cost is
important for blind people as we have to pay much more for our
devices and of course the software. am i correct i
hi there well not sure how sensative the inbuilt receiver is i
suppose it is like the treka breeze how good is it's gps
receiver. hard to say really.
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APH designed their app for the brailleplus 18, their blindness-oriented
notetaker/phone that runs Android, and after that was on the market for a
while, they released the app to the playstore. So it makes sense that they'd do
that imho. The map data the Sendero app uses come from navteq, or you
Actually, APH developed an entire Android braille phone device. the maps was
just part of the device.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 03/03/2013, at 2:04, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:
> What I'm really curious about is why A
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