Ok, it seems to be as long as it's broad; re-entering all the email details
or re-doing the bit's I've done on the 5S already. I have my own hosting,
so have to use Other and type in everything!
Thanks, RobH.
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To:
Hi,
I received my iPhone 6 Plus this past Friday November 7 in the mail from
Verizon Wireless. After connecting my iPhone 6 Plus to iTunes, iTunes
reported that my phone could not be restored from a backup because my iPhone
6 Plus software was older than my backup. So, I proceeded to update my
who have make clear record
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From: Jonathan Mosen
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: Audio recorder recommendations needed
Overall, I like good old Clear Record. There are few things I record on my
phone
Yeah, that was Zenith, who was acquired by LG due to shrinking market
share. Ford also used the slogan Quality if Job 1. I bet Ford still
got their new cars out every model year though, and of course, Ford has
had more than it's share of quality problems over the years. It's called
marketing.
The last couple of dayswhile looking at recently added books, I get kicked
out of the BARD app. Also anyone know how to subscribe to the BARD talk
e-mail list serve? I did go to the website and clicked on the subscrive.
But I never got a confirmation e-mail.
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OK, I've had a number of occasions with the latest firmware and apps not
moving, especially but not only on the Home page. So far I have found that the
only solution is to make a space in your doc at the bottom of the screen
(moving out to another page something that you later put back) and
Hey there Terri! There is an app on your phone called Dice World, and it is
free! They have just updated it so there are now six games you can play, and
Farkle is one of them. It is pretty easy. There are six dice, and the highest
score wins. You play up to 1. There are different ways you
Everyone's getting kicked out since the latest updates. Bard has to update
their app to fix the problem.
Joney
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On Nov 10, 2014, at 6:57 AM, Tom Rash
If you are using JAWS, you can do the following:
While you are in the table, you hold down the alt and control keys while you
navigate with the 4 arrow keys.
The table lists the items vertically, so go to the price and hold down alt and
control, then down arrow. You will see the price, what
There is one called blindfold Sudoku.
It has just come out, and is from kid friendly software.
Thom
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RobH.
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re:
Dice world has not only the rules for Dice World, but a tutorial as well.
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From: Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Farkle
Hey there Terri! There is an app on your phone called Dice World, and it is
Oops, I forgot to talk about the tutorials. There is a text tutorial for Farkle
that is just read by VoiceOver, and there is also an audio tutorial that is
spoken by someone and shows you how the game is played and what to expect from
VoiceOver.
Lucy
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Hi. I was wondering if Jonathan would consider doing a podcast on itunes
12? His earlier itunes podcasts were so good that I could sure use an
update. Thanks.
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I see you have an ipad. Can you get AccessWorld to install on it?
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From: Katey Glass
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: AccessWorld App Problem
Like Anna,
On my IPhone 5s running iOS 8.1 when I open the AFB AccessWorld
I'm wondering if anyone will be creating a podcast on how to use Itunes 12
with windows?
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From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked
like in
Hi all,
First, I'm determined to do the best I can with Itunes 12, so no moaning from
me! Smiles
I have a few of questions though, please:
The first is an Itunes/possible Jaws problem: I have ripped some CD's and
wanted to export these to my safe, away from itunes) place for other use. I
Hi Carol,
If you ask a sighted person they will definitely tell you that apps are not
almost on top of one another and that the alignment is just fine.
Apple allows 4 apps in a row and 5 rows so you can try to move more apps onto a
particular home page and if its full then its full and the
Hi Neil,
No, there is no shortcut key for that from what I can tell. I just always go to
the search field with Control+f and then tab the 4 or 5 times to get to the
button for my device or, if you have more than one, devices. I guess how often
you have to tab depends on how many things you put
My experience with this bug is that you cannot move apps off the bottom row
of the home screen. What I did to resolve this problem for myself was to
move apps that were in rows other than the bottom row to another page; once
there were no apps in the bottom row (row 6 I think), I was able to
You can clear the search field in the App Store; simply double tap the CLEAR
button twice, then the ensuing DISMISS button.
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This morning I went to sync my iPhone 6+ with iTunes which I don’t do very
often. I couldn’t find my iPhone on the computer but when I unlocked my phone
while still connected I saw the “trust computer” dialog. I double-tapped
“trust” and the dialog disappeared. But my iPhone still didn’t show
Could you setup a shortcut in keyboard commanders? Would that work? Could you
create an AppleScript?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Hi Neil,
No, there is no shortcut key for that from what I can tell. I just always go
to the
I am not a Mac user and can't that answer. If you are familiar with setting up
such scripts then why not try it and share with the list if it works.
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Thanks for the info will try that the next time I have to search for someone.
who knew going to your friends page and hitting the search button there would
pull up everyone with the same name you are not friends with. I really question
the developers at Facebook and what the hell they are
Hello list
I got an iPod Nano. I tried to sync songs and make the volume level the same
for all songs. I activated preferences in iTunes and checked the sound check
box. On the iPod I activated settings and equilizer and then checked a box
which I thought would be necessary to make sure all
Hello Folks,
I'm wondering if others have seen this with an iPhone 6 with 8.1. Yesterday I
noticed the brightness was at 100%. I went into settings and turned it down to
0%: This morning I was charging my phone. When I took it off the charger, and
answered a phone call it began to heat up.
Did you make sure Auto Brightness is turned off? Go to Settings, Display and
Brightness and make sure it is off, then turn the brightness down to 0% or 10%.
You can always turn up brightness quickly in the control centre if you need
somebody to look at your phone and in any case, even at 0%
If you don't want to use Dice World or play with others, you can get a
couple of farkle apps, one called iFarkle Free and the other called
simply iFarkle, which is $0.99 in the US App Store. Both are equally
accessible, though the fre version does include ads that show up after
you complete a
Hi!
OK If I get some of the key presses wrong someone [I hope ] will correct me!
1st when on a track you wish to find out about use your Applications key and go
to the Get info option and select it!
Then pick the details option and you should be able to go the different options
like song title,
I have found ClearRecord unstable and it loses recordings. After a couple of
years using ClearRecord because I could not find an alternative solution,
I'm now using DropVox 100% of the time which is more intuitive and with
great accessibility feels like it was developed for the blind as opposed
This is 100 percent speculation on my part, but, as Freedom Scientific has
done podcasts on versions 10 and 11, they may also be doing one on 12?
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Me too!
I can't remember how to select more than one (but not all) items and Jaws isn't
telling me what is and isn't selected. I can't add CD#s just ripped until I
can do this successfully.
Anyone help?
Carol P
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To:
Thanks for that feedback. They don't appear straight to me sometimes, but then
my version of straight as a tototal is hardly to be commended! Smiles
Anyway, thanks for the info.
Carol P
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Hi Neil, I think his is a bug, but there's a way around it. It was driving me
nuts until I stumbled upon it.
The way around it is that at the bottom of the Audio Described category,
there's a button that lets you view all audio described content in A to Z
order. If you go into that list, then
Hi Tim and all. Yes, there are two aspects to this. One is to understand how to
create an account in the UK App Store, the other is various services that can
help you access content that is geo-blocked. I find that a VPN is not the best
way of getting good speed from BBC iPlayer.
To help with
I have not experienced any problems with ClearRecord. Also remember that
DropVox is MP3. If this is what you want, then you have it. If you want
uncompressed files, DropVox will not do it. Plus, I have not found a way to
have DropVox save recordings to your device if you are not on WI-FI. That
Actually, is there enough of a difference between 11 and 12 that would warrant
a podcast? It's actually not all that different other than the fact that the
side bar is no longer there.
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Greetings all. Jessica, allow full access does not mean that you will
be able to type in your password in Fleksy, in fact this is one of the
big areas where Fleksy will not work. If you have to type your
password in, you will have to use the standard virtual keyboard. Allow
full access simply
To access settings in the main Fleksy app, go to the top of the
screen. There you will find tabs across the screen, one of which is
settings. Double tap and the settings will appear below.
Wayne
On 11/8/14, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
Sandy, I'll keep my fingers crossed with you since I
ClearRecord seems to become very unstable with files up to 20 minutes and
beyond--since these are uncompressed files, there might be problems with how
ClearRecord allocates memory. Actually, the problem might be with the
synching with iTunes--something happens during conversion/transfer of
Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the
accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of
VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes
etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a
Instead of doing a global search in the app, I do the following. I go to the
more tab and find my name near the top of the screen and double-tap it. The
resulting area shows my posts. Just above my list of posts is a buttn that says
friends. When I double-tap that, the promps says search your
Hello Joseph, Richard's correct here. A Microsoft account can be created with
your existing email address if that's what the user desires. It's not necessary
to create an outlook.com http://outlook.com/ or live.com http://live.com/
address if you're happy with the email service you have.
I know what you mean. When you search for someone, your friends will come up
first and then others will come afterwards on that list.
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Hi Larry, thanks a lot for the kind words, really appreciate that.
I'm going to make brief reference to iTunes 12 in the next FSCast and outline
some of the shortcut keys that have already been well covered on this list.
If there's demand for even more than this, we may come back to it and do a
Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation
but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written
before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as
bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these
As for number one, I have never had this problem. As for number two, the saving
of DropVox files in memory, I was going by what someone on this list had told
me. I am glad it works for you. I'll have to try it and see if I can replicate
your findings. If so, I will correct the misinformation I
That was not my point. You're responding to Richard's post and not my
original post--richard also didn't read my post carefully.
Joseph
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From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:08 AM
Subject: Re:
Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard
commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS?
We'd all be grateful.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 11/11/2014, at
Hi Neal, agreed, I've been using ClearRecord for four years now and it's been
rock solid. I've recorded my kids' concerts, interviews, and all kinds of
material and it's worked flawlessly for me in uncompressed .wav format.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials
I completely understand issue #2, as the FreeTech guy you would be surprised
at the amount of time I have to spend correcting blind computer users
understanding of how computer and software works. I hate to say it, but
along with the great info, many of these lists disseminate lots of incorrect
You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not
relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth
keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply
stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it
Hi Joseph, I have your original message here, and I'm going to quote from it
directly. It says:
You will need a Microsoft related account such as an email address which
ends with @live.com http://live.com/ or @outlook.com http://outlook.com/.
Both Richard and I have pointed out, for those who
You did not quote the rest of the email message where it all comes together.
Regardless, you guys win, I just want to move on. Sorry, but I won't be
replying anymore.
Joseph
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November
Guys,
I realize it has been a long time since I posted to this list. But I have a
question. I am trying to use the select command, available under the edit
option in the rotor in iOS eight. Here is my problem. I seem to only be able
to select one word when I choose select under edit. I
Hi Joseph,
I think you are splitting hairs here. You say the attribute information can be
read by Voiceover, but you can't provide exactly which gestures or keyboard
commands produce this information. I think what you are saying is that
Voiceover could read this information if the developers
If you are trying to select a line then switch the rotor to lines.
Now this is wheir it gets a little tricky.
First swipe down to the line you want to select from.
Then to select text pinch your fingers apart.
To deselect text pinch you're fingers together.
Here is a link to a podcast that
THe link I sent you was the link to the forum discussion here is the link to
the podcast.
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-and-demonstrating-advanced-text-editing-capabilities-ios-voiceover-users
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Hi Sieghard, for me the fundamental point here, and I'm pretty confident you
and most competent screen reader users will agree, is that there are real
dangers in expecting every individual app developer to have to compensate for
the deficiencies of a screen reader by having to make their own
I appreciate your input, even though I cannot get the first to work. Jaws
reads everything fine but I can't get anything spelt out. (Perhaps someone
knows the keystroke to do this). Jaws cursor appears no help to read anything
so at present I need to read the item via the PC cursor.
Thanks
Hi, you say the attribute information can be read, but of course, you don't
say how. How does this make anything clear?
Neal
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Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:32 PM
To:
Hey all, I had a question but I hope some of you could help me answer. A friend
of mine has the Bard app but suddenly every time she tries to put in her
username and password it will kick her out of the app.it is the correct email
and password as when she uses it on her husband's iPad it works
Hi Jonathan,
I totally agree. Apple obviously wants people to use iOS devices for word
processing and maybe even for spreadsheet and presentations otherwise they
wouldn’t offer Pages, Numbers and Keynote free of charge. Microsoft obviously
feels the same way and therefore accessibility for
Hello,
Thanks for the location of turning off auto brightness. It did the trick.
Eileen
On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Did you make sure Auto Brightness is turned off? Go to Settings, Display and
Brightness and make sure it is off, then turn the
Joseph, if you are saying that the attributes are read by default in google
sheets, and there is no way to not have them be read, then that hardly seems
like a decent solution. If, on the other hand, you are saying that it is
possible to have such attributes read on demand, so to speak, that
One thing that may resolve the problem is to delete everything from the app
switcher, then shut down and restart the device.
HtH,
Teresa
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the brain is often called imagination.--Oliver Sacks
On Nov 10, 2014, at
Hi Jonathan,
Firstly, I completely agree that announcing text attributes (e.g. at your
cursor location) is really a screen reader feature rather than something
developers should be implementing on an application basis. Therefore, I don’t
fault Microsoft Word at all for having this limitation,
Hi all
The below scenario is under iOS 8.1 on both iPhone 4s and iPad Mini 2. The
family member in question is also running iOS 8 and they have just the 4s. They
are all signed into their respective iCloud account where Family Sharing is
enabled.
I have a calendar event shared with members of
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Hi Grant, I've used Excel and Word so far, but have yet to use PowerPoint.
The way I've been working with Word is to create documents with it, then bring
them back to the computer to format with JAWS where I can use Text Analyser,
get verification of formatting etc.
I've not used tables as I
Have they tryed opening calendar.
Then choose the event in question.
Then go to edit.
Then select the calendar button and then select family and then choose done?
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I have an iPad mini, apple TV along with dropbox. I want to watch the
movies that I have put into the dropbox on my apple TV. Will someone give me
instructions on how to do this?
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This is kind of interesting.
If using a bluetooth keyboard, when turning on keyboard help with control
option K, when you press Control option T, voiceover says, “Output Text Style.”
This seems like that some kind of formatting font or style should be indicated
when you press that key, which by
Hi,
You don't need the equalizer on your Nano on, but do turn on the sound Check
option. If it's on on your computer and Nano, you should get reasonably equal
volume on all your tracks.
Best,
Anna
On Nov 10, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Fanus buys.fa...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello list
I got an iPod
Is there a way that you can tell if specific formatting options have actually
been applied? Like the Insert-F command with most screen readers?
Thanks,
Ari
On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free
Hi Jim, what a great catch. I've tried that command before and never had it
work, but it's interesting that it is actually in Keyboard Help. So I wonder
whether it's an error that it's listed there, or a bug that it doesn't work?
Oh, while I'm writing, I finished Exploding the Phone a couple of
Hi,
If Teresa's great suggestion doesn't help, go to Settings, choose BARD Mobile,
and set the initialization setting to On. That might help.
Best,
Anna
On Nov 10, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
One thing that may resolve the problem is to delete everything
Oh, darn. I will definitely be contacting Apple about this for a future
VoiceOver update.
Thanks,
Ari
On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the
accessibility of these apps, but now we're
I read a post that said to add people to your favorites.. I did and siri
stopped asking to confirm EVERY call... it is a step in the right
direction...
On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:19:46 PM UTC-7, Cher wrote:
Just updated to 8.1 and Siri is demanding confirmation of every request to
doesvoiceover get in your recordings
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 10, 2014, at 1:00 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
Overall, I like good old Clear Record. There are few things I record on my
phone that I don't want to put into a sound editor in the studio and edit
later, so
Hi,
I can see considerable number of system files in my iPhone internal storage
like this (ref attached file). Kindly let me know what these files are
the effect of having them in my phone.
Further please let me know the steps that I can take to remove these files
too.
Thank you.
now how good is it with mall navagaton
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know how to make the tracking feature work in Apple maps? Every
time I try to use it, it won't work. When I enable the tracking with
headings
It may be there to teach us patience... no other reason... it is slowly
working with me... other than that I recently read that adding ph#'s to
your favorites in your contact list will stop this function... so far it
is working w/ me... good luck...
On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:29:50 PM
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Raul that I have to be moderated at first, I now am writing a message to
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My name is Eden Kizer, and I am a new IPhone 5 user, and I exclusively
use it with a Braille Sense on hand although I have not yet figured
i have been using ios devices s
```Sent from my iPadi have been using ios devices since 2 0005 The first ios
device i started out with was a i pod touch 4th generation.Then last year i got
a i pad minni.I am wanting to get more info on how to use my i pad minni more
afectively with voice
Hi Grant and all,
There is a command in iOS 8 for hearing text formatting on a braille display -
Space with dots 2-3-4-5-6. This works in Notepad. I haven't tried it in other
apps though. But at least they're working on a way to speak format info.
Best,
Anna
On Nov 9, 2014, at 5:01 PM,
Hello All,
I’ve just rejoined this list as I am looking at a new iPhone. I’ve tried
looking through the archives trying to establish what subscribers felt about
the 2 new phones?
I see there are concerns about 128 Gig version of the Plus. The IOS-Today
podcast suggests, as a generalisation.
Possible solution to resolve the issue:
Dear all, my wife, visually impaired, relies on voiceover a lot and she
also notices this iOS8.1 bug which will stream both voiceover and music to
airplay. The intended feature prior to iOS8.1 works well where voiceover
should remain on iPhone speaker
What is that setting for?
Thanks,
Ari
On Nov 10, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
Hi,
If Teresa's great suggestion doesn't help, go to Settings, choose BARD
Mobile, and set the initialization setting to On. That might help.
Best,
Anna
On Nov
Hi Beverly,
If the movies are in your Dropbox as opposed to in your iTunes library, your
only option is to play the movie on your iPad Mini and to then use Airplay to
send it to your Apple TV.
In order to do that you would go into your Dropbox app and start the movie
playing there. Then bring
Welcome to the group.
Isaac Hebert
hebertisaa...@gmail.com
On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi welcome to the group, just let us know what questions you have and we will
be glad to help you.
On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:34 PM, wui chin Leong
If you're looking at things in the Get Info screen, you should just be able to
use regular commands that moved by character/word, etc. to read things like
track name, artist name, etc.
Thanks,
Ari
On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:59 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Hi Eric,
That is another excellent discovery. I just tried this on my 5S and was able to
reproduce this. I usually want my media to lower in volume to hear Voiceover so
I have audio ducking on and I don’t even have it in my rotor. But I just put it
in and turned it off and as soon as I sent
The 128 GB 6 Pluses have had issues if the user has a ginormous number
of apps on them, like 700 or more. People that have 128 gig models of
this phone on this list have reported no issues. I am quite happy with
my iPhone 6. I have large hands, but the 6 doesn't seem overly big to
me, where the 6
Hi,
I know someone who was complaining about this very issue over the weekend.
She is on this group, however, I will forward this message to her just to
make sure she does not miss this tip.
I had not noticed the bug since I usually airplay from my PC and not from my
phone.
Merv
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No, you can’t read anything in the read only fields either with the PC or Jaws
cursor.
There are only 2 work-around I can think of:
You can select the “Show in Windows Explorer” option from the context menu of a
song which would take you to the folder where the album is stored where you can
This works well for me. Also, you might want to be aware that during the
checkout process, you will be asked to select between a few different options
for shipping, cards, etc. if you have more than one option in your account. If
you do, and you select one, VoiceOver won't tell you that it's
If Fitbit doesn't intjegrate with the Health app then that is a poor business
decision on their part. Yes, it's too bad that Apple doesn't sell them on their
store, but it is their store and they can decide what to sell and what to sell.
But if other alternatives are available which will
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