Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-03 Thread Peter Holdstock
Tge screen curtain probably also saves battery power as it’s not have to illuminate the screen. Peter From: Alan Paganelli Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Fair point. I didn't think of it as I rarely

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-03 Thread Don Breda
I too would like this but I must say switching the dots around in settings did help me quite a bit. Don -- Don Breda don.br...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-03 Thread Carla Savage
Hi Cheryl, I aggree that having both settings would be of benefit. I, like you don't have a problem, although I do make mistakes but am getting better at it all the time. I think that the way it is currently, means that it is easier to type when you're out and about but I can understand why

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
the wrong end of it please tell me why but I just don't see how the curtain is any big deal worth bothering over. - Original Message - From: BrailleTouch To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread RobH!
for it to matter. Rh. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 5:45 AM Subject: RE: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Hi Bob, You can also turn screen brightness to 0%. First of all this will save you

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Regina Alvarado
picked up when I could see enough for it to matter. Rh. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 5:45 AM Subject: RE: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Hi Bob, You can also turn screen

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
the curtain is any big deal worth bothering over. - Original Message - From: BrailleTouch To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Bob, we do recommend turning the screen curtain on if you

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Rick Alfaro
I would have to add my agreement with this as well. I would definitely prefer a horizontal placement for the Braille input. I did manage to get my head around the current method being used but the horizontal placement would be so much easier to use IMHO. Best, Rick alfaro On 2/1/2013

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Rick Alfaro
I would like to see it as an option, maybe even switchable right from the BrailleTouch menu instead of in settings. Best, Rick alfaro On 2/1/2013 4:02 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I would definitely not be willing to trade this possible future option for horizontal key arrangement for the

BrailleTouch, horizontal placement? was RE: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected I would have to add my agreement with this as well. I would definitely prefer a horizontal placement for the Braille input. I did manage to get my head around the current method being used but the horizontal

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-02 Thread Alan Paganelli
, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Hi, If I'm in public, I tend to use headphones. If you use headphones and the screen curtain is on, people won't know what you're typing. Best, Anna On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza

Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Hi everyone, I didn't hear the podcasts on Braille Touch before release, but thought I'd download it and have a play. The fact that you can try the app before purchase is excellent. I am a lifelong Braille user and input in Braille every day. And I think this is my problem. When I heard about

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Jose Lomeli
I know what you mean. It's not how I thought it would be! Sent from my iPod On Feb 1, 2013, at 10:24 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi everyone, I didn't hear the podcasts on Braille Touch before release, but thought I'd download it and have a play. The fact that you can try the

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, I originally thought the dots would be arranged along the long side of the phone horizontally. But actually, the fact that this was not the case actually was discussed after the podcast came out. But there has been a lot of traffic on this subject so it's not surprising that some people

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Kimber Gardner
I have to agree. Since my biggest problem with this app is holding the phone and typing accurately I would love to see an option to reallign the keys in the perkins style even if that means having to place the phone on a flat surface to input. Kim On 2/1/13, Jose Lomeli jose.lome...@gmail.com

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello Jonathan. I'd like to agree with you about the repositioning of how you might put your fingers. Only because, earlier, myfingers began to ache and I am worried that one might get RSI. I don't want to be sceptical, but, we need our hands as for us all, our hands are important to us due

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Where is this podcast, I have missed this due to the traffic. Kawal. On 1 Feb 2013, at 06:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I originally thought the dots would be arranged along the long side of the phone horizontally. But actually, the fact that this was not the case

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Aman Singer
Hello, Jonathan and all. I would respectfully agree with Jonathan. I would love a setting to allow entry using the screen divided into six rectangles horizontally across the screen, as it is on the Perkins and, for example, also on the refreshabraille. Remember that the virtual keys are long, so

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Jennie Facer
The podcast is at AppleVis. Jenn Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Where is this podcast, I have missed this due to the traffic. Kawal. On 1 Feb 2013, at 06:29 PM, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I originally thought

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Oh that podcast, it didn't work for me and at the time I was at work using my I phone. Kawal. On 1 Feb 2013, at 06:40 PM, Jennie Facer pup...@me.com wrote: The podcast is at AppleVis. Jenn Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Where

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Penny Reeder
I agree as well. The vertical lay-out and the requirement to face the phone outward are spatially confusing, and the unavailability of Grade 2 braille can cause one who is used to writing in Grade 2 to make lots of mistakes. Since developers are also on this list, I wonder if they can comment

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I wouldn't mind trying a horizontal layout and that is the way I pictured it until I heard the podcast. However, I don't find facing the phone outward to be spatially confusing; I think that's a matter of how each person looks at it. And I also don't find that I have to do hand-twisting to use

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Scott Davert
I agree that this should be an option in a future update. I think it would apply to a larger market this way, since people are different at everything, this includes braille. I think I would find this easier myself, though I'm quite adjusted to the way they have it set up. It took me about a week

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Regina Alvarado
I cannot wait for grade two. That will make it much faster, but I don't have much problem now laying my fingers correctly now besides the occasional inadvertent finger taps just because I have my fingers very close to the screen and my fingers on either hand can get a bit anxious to tap instead

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread James Muirhead
Good evening folks, Just a note on the braille touch, which is very much easier to use when altering the keys in advanced settings so that the keyboard becomes like a Stainsby. A Stainsby predates the Perkins and was noisy and relatively primitivbe, however my brief experience with it makes

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Peter Holdstock
Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Good evening folks, Just a note on the braille touch, which is very much easier to use when altering the keys in advanced settings so that the keyboard becomes like a Stainsby. A Stainsby predates the Perkins and was noisy and relatively primitivbe, however my

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread BrailleTouch
Hi Penny, Thanks for your questions. I can't yet promise a date for Grade 2 contracted braille. But we are working on it, and we are very excited about offering this in a future update! We will look into an option for a horizontal keyboard layout, but I can't promise this. I certainly

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread liz and sammie
The only issue that I am having with Braille Touch, and frankly, I'm not sure if this is even a Braille Touch issue, is that I can't paste text from Braille Touch into a facebook status. Facebook has recently updated the app, so I'm thinking this is a facebook issue. Other than that, for me,

RE: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Lu Ann Schmidt
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimber Gardner Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 11:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected I have to agree. Since my biggest problem with this app is holding the phone and typing accurately I would love to see an option

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread RobH!
, though you do need a long memory to have recognised it. Rh. - Original Message - From: Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:29 PM Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Yes, I originally thought the dots would

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Keith Bundy
Excellent, Scott. I compared my typing on BrailleTouch and Fleksy, which is a program I really like. I just started playing with BrailleTouch yesterday, and have already eclipsed my Fleksy speed. That's why I decided to buy it. As you said very well, everyone is an individual, and some may not

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Len Burns
It seems to me that a central factor in this discussion is whether and how much people are accustomed toinputing via a device such as a braille display. I could probably adjust to the positioning, but because I input a lot these days with the Focus, I am accustomed to the lay out. I also am

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Fenton
I agree with that suggestion. With holding the phone- as we do it with the application now, there is a potential security risk that people can read what you're writing on your iPhone if you failed to turn screen curtain on. That could be an issue for me down the road. Bob Fenton Sent from

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread BrailleTouch
Bob, we do recommend turning the screen curtain on if you are concerned about this. This is in our FAQ: http://brailletouchapp.com/faq.html#a12 Caleb http://brailletouchapp.com/ On 2/1/2013 10:01 PM, Robert Fenton wrote: I agree with that suggestion. With holding the phone- as we do it

RE: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BrailleTouch Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 8:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected Bob, we do recommend turning the screen curtain on if you are concerned about this. This is in our FAQ: http

Re: Braille Touch Doesn't Work as I expected

2013-02-01 Thread Louise Redsull
i completely agree with what you are saying. I am loving braille touch and have quickly got used to holding the phone differently. I must commend the developers on this inovative idea. The problem with having the dots orientated like a perkins is that there will not be enough space for your