A recently acquired Acculab VIC 10KG digital scale (10,100 grams)
with +/- 1.0 gram resolution and a Science First
model 10-060 (200 KV) Van de Graaff generator which specifies
a Positively Charged Sphere, with a how it works explanation,
makes for some interesting endeavors.
Setting the VDG on
Nice experiment Fred! Wrt the weight changes, it behaves qualitatively as
expected doesn't it?
Did the discharge hurt a lot?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: [Vo]: Re Van de
Unless the coatings diminish the material's permeability to some atmospheric
gases lowering it's breakdown voltage?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: More on the
Your own idea seems quite ingenious too!
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:37 AM
Subject: [Vo]: FW: [Vo]: Launch Loop concept for earth to orbit access
That sounds really ingenious :-) !
Paul, I suggest you try and do some simple physics derivations (analytically)
without the help of PE, and post them here. Max speed reached by the ball in a
pendulum released at an angle of 90° from the vertical as a function of string
length, this kind of stuff.
You keep telling us
Michel Jullian wrote.
Nice experiment Fred! Wrt the weight changes, it behaves qualitatively as
expected doesn't it?
Thanks. Yes the leakage around the room and ion wind is pronounced too.
Did the discharge hurt a lot?
No, just startles you.
I'm practicing with it so I can see if the VDG
Oops, make that the reported 0.5 to 1.0 MegaCoulombs excess negative
charge of the earth.
I gather it's split between the surface and the positive charge of the
ionosphere.
Fred
[Original Message]
From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: 1/27/2007 8:17:14 AM
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul, I suggest you try and do some simple physics
derivations (analytically) without
the help of PE, and post them here. Max speed
reached by the ball in a pendulum released
at an angle of 90° from the vertical as a function
of string length, this kind of stuff.
I've
Paul wrote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul, I suggest you try and do some simple physics
derivations (analytically) without
the help of PE, and post them here. Max speed
reached by the ball in a pendulum released
at an angle of 90° from the vertical as a function
of string length, this kind
Years ago there was buzz on the news groups about Avramenko's Plug and
proposed method of single wire transmission. During the period I did some
experiments with the Plug and HV driving Xeons etc., yet found it to be
going no where and JLN, Stefan Hartmann and Frolov got involved. JLN did a
demo
Paul sez:
...
I've adapted my own style of physics and retired the
pen and paper, lol. IMHO the future of physics is
computer software. Computers are best at mathematics,
speed, and memory. I view the Omniverse as one large
computer. As far as PE, my present simulation software
has no
Mmm if it has no net charge (not sure what you mean by wrt earth ground BTW,
no net charge is absolute, zero Coulomb, unlike voltage which may be what you
meant), why do you expect a force wrt a charged body?
Michel
- Original Message -
From: Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
I've adapted my own style of physics...
No problem, I was only suggesting this as a way for you to realize you can't do
away with PE. Simulation software is usually based on forces and fields, so
indeed it doesn't have to compute energy to solve things. Which software do you
use, something of
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Paul wrote:
Michel Jullian wrote:
Paul, I suggest you try and do some simple
physics
derivations (analytically) without
the help of PE, and post them here. Max speed
reached by the ball in a pendulum released
at an angle of 90° from the vertical
I just posted another picture of the free secondary end of the transformer.
Remember the secondary has a free end and this is the one shown with the
neon.
www.stifflerscientific.com/images/avtrig2.jpg
-Original Message-
From: Stiffler Scientific [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Michel Jullian wrote.
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: 1/27/2007 9:56:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Re Van de Graaf Antics
Mmm if it has no net charge (not sure what you mean by wrt earth ground
BTW, no net charge is absolute, zero Coulomb, unlike voltage which may be
what you meant), why do
OrionWorks wrote:
Paul sez:
...
I've adapted my own style of physics and retired
the
pen and paper, lol. IMHO the future of physics is
computer software. Computers are best at
mathematics,
speed, and memory. I view the Omniverse as one
large
computer. As far as PE, my present
Enjoy your simulations!
PS: I never said I would take pen and paper over a computer. Do not infer
what was never said.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:22 AM
To:
OrionWorks wrote:
Paul sez:
...
I've adapted my own style of physics and retired the
pen and paper, lol. IMHO the future of physics is
computer software. Computers are best at mathematics,
speed, and memory. I view the Omniverse as one large
computer. As far as PE, my present
Michel Jullian wrote:
I've adapted my own style of physics...
No problem, I was only suggesting this as a way for
you to realize you can't do away
with PE. Simulation software is usually based on
forces and fields, so indeed it doesn't
have to compute energy to solve things. Which
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Enjoy your simulations!
Thank you!
PS: I never said I would take pen and paper over
a computer. Do not infer
what was never said.
One can only go by the words of another. May I ask
what you meant by the uppercased words
in, Living and experiencing the
- Original Message
From: Stiffler Scientific
This is NOT an OU device :-(, it is an energy conversion device. Now where
does the excess come from? Well thats a good question because only a certain
ferrite core will allow the device to work,
That certain ferrite core wouldn't happen
I first heard about magnetic viscosity (V[s])a few weeks ago. As I
understand it, there's a time delay in ferromagnetic materials between an
applied H field and the corresponding B field (and in reverse also --
removing the H field).
If I spin a magnet over a ferromagnetic disc (assume
Jones Beene wrote:
- Original Message
From: Stiffler Scientific
This is NOT an OU device :-(, it is an energy conversion device. Now where
does the excess come from? Well thats a good question because only a certain
ferrite core will allow the device to work,
That certain
How is the experiment on the magnetic effect on the temperature of water
coming along?
Harry
Stiffler Scientific wrote:
I just posted another picture of the free secondary end of the transformer.
Remember the secondary has a free end and this is the one shown with the
neon.
Harry sez:
...
One man's garbage is another man's gold.
However, feeding gold to a computer seems pointless
to me... unless _we_ are the computer. ;-)
Harry
Yes, indeedie!
Couldn't have articulated any better than that!
Which one will it be today, the red or blue pill.
Regards,
---
Hi Paul,
...
One can only go by the words of another. May I ask
what you meant by the uppercased words
in, Living and experiencing the universe within the
context of one's own created computer
'simulations' is no doubt a fascinating learning
experience. No doubt, it has its place in
- Original Message
From: Harry Veeder
This is NOT an OU device :-( it is an energy conversion device. Now where
does the excess come from? Well that's a good question because only a
certain ferrite core will allow the device to work...
That certain ferrite core wouldn't happen
Oh, interesting thought. You know there is a frequency that mother nature
seems to be in love with in many ways. A google search will show some
interesting results. Of course I'm talking about 1.6MHz
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday,
Point well taken, but it is not from the core in the same sense that one
would consider when using a PM and the field is decreased over time. I did
not mention, although important is that the relaxation oscillator is
switching the bulb around 70Hz. The voltage on the storage capacitor drops
during
Very well, the info has been pulled from our site and only through
communication with know individuals (you know, only the good guys) cam I
explain further at this time.
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:30 PM
To:
Let me tease a bit further. But be sure this is _NOT_ a faked circuit in any
way, albeit cranky sometimes, but real.
If you have worked with tuned circuits (which this is not) as you approach
resonance from the low side and pass the peak moving down on the high side.
(Applying a sweep freq to a
Paul wrote:
For example, many centuries ago people did not
understand where the energy contained in
compressed air came from. They could have easily
attributed it to a separate hidden energy
storage compartment created and handled by nature,
called PE. We now know that's a silly
idea
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:11:55 +0100:
Hi,
[snip]
Unless the coatings diminish the material's permeability to some atmospheric
gases lowering it's breakdown voltage?
Michel
I would think that insulation from the atmosphere would be more cheaply and
easily
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:27:47 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
hundred hertz. Now with this circuit (my example) as you approach a specific
frequency there is a shift internal of the core and a very solid and quick
lock to the excitation. You may have to pull the input
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:13:02 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
Oh, interesting thought. You know there is a frequency that mother nature
seems to be in love with in many ways. A google search will show some
interesting results. Of course I'm talking about 1.6MHz
[snip]
- Original Message
From: Robin van Spaandonk
Oh, interesting thought. You know there is a frequency that mother nature
seems to be in love with in many ways. A google search will show some
interesting results. Of course I'm talking about 1.6MHz
This is about equal to the cyclotron
God I should read all replies before I answer any. Your are getting close as
many others have done and just did not click with them. I can not explain
just how ingrained 1.6Mhz is with our environment and energy interchanges.
-Original Message-
From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL
Yes! Yes!. Energy increase of 10k over 20khz and 40khz in transducer
effectiveness in sonoluminesce. Used now in vaporizers, is
spectrophotometer, etc,. etc., but used for specialized application and to
my knowledge no one has yet seen how it can be used to crack a very sought
after secret.
You insist, very aggressively, that my statement was incorrect even if I meant
one electro-magnet. Well the case is simple enough, let's work it out. If it's
non-resistive it's purely inductive, so v=-L*di/dt right? So if current i is
constant, voltage v is zero, therefore consumed power i*v is
OK - Lets assume that Ron Stiffler's device is robustly OU and is
replicated by others. Here is why I think that any OU which is produced
in could be *nuclear* in origin.
But it's not the kind of nuclear which you had in mind. More
specifically, in the past this little-known reaction has been
This circuit _IS_NOT_OU_ it will not run itself, it can not as yet anyway as
it hates to have its output section tied in any way to the input or earth
ground. Conservation of Energy is safe, for now. :-)
Please all of you I don't want a fire storm.
I have received email from all to many 'Free
Jones, I have not included your text for various reasons, among which should
be the obvious.
Anyone foolish enough to play with gamma, even low level begs a knock on the
door :-(
A device as you describe would for sure not be allowed in the public domain,
just guess why and it has nothing to do
Well let me clarify that confusing and hastily put-together message.
There is, of course, no gamma radiation per se - that would surely have
been noticed. What I am suggesting is that just as in cold fusion, where
the expected ~24 MeV gamma-ray energy of deuterium fusing into helium is
Let me expand on something I stated earlier, the (Spooky) thing (very
scientific term).
Lets say we take a coil of similar parms as that which I use and excite it
with 1.6Mhz and proceed to scan the surrounding area with a search coil to
explore field strength (arbitrary levels). We would see the
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:46:03 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
3) Barium has such an isomer called Ba-135m. 135Ba is itself about 6.6%
of all barium and the isomer is a fraction of that which depends on how
long, and how hot was the ore from which the barium was extracted.
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:40:21 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
Sorry, NO! The frequency of the driver is 1.6Mhz and the discharge switch
rate is 70Hz, its not that easy to get 7W from 1.
It might not be so difficult when you are holding the free end of the secondary
in
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:43:42 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
God I should read all replies before I answer any. Your are getting close as
many others have done and just did not click with them. I can not explain
just how ingrained 1.6Mhz is with our environment and
In reply to Stiffler Scientific's message of Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:29:17 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
Let me expand on something I stated earlier, the (Spooky) thing (very
scientific term).
Lets say we take a coil of similar parms as that which I use and excite it
with 1.6Mhz and proceed to scan the
Robin
...however Ba135m only has a half-life of 1.2 days
The anecdotal situation which is inferred (by me in this hypothesis)
from Sweet's conditioning process, and the other reported alterations
or variations of the necessary pretreatment, is that Ba135 can be
elevated above ground state
Michel Jullian wrote:
You insist, very aggressively, that my statement
was incorrect even if I meant one
electro-magnet. Well the case is simple enough, let's
work it out. If it's non-resistive
it's purely inductive, so v=-L*di/dt right? So if
current i is constant, voltage v is
zero,
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Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
Consider the situation far from any planets or stars.
If the ball-bearing is initially at the centre of the shell it will remain
there. If it is initially off centre, the ball bearing and the shell will
move so as to minimize the distance
I had planned set it on the scale with it sitting atop an aluminum foil sheet
laying
on a 3 inch thick Styrofoam plank and using a bank of D batteries
feeding an inverter feeding the scale and VDG
so it can pump electrons between the globe and the
foil so that there wouldn't' be any net
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