In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:21:25 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
>Over half the cost of the Volt is probably in the batteries, and if they need
>to be replaced in 4 years at $20,000 retail -- then the yearly cost of
>ownership has gone through the roof.
[snip]
I think Lithi
Part of Stephen's discussion which I inlcuded in my reply was lost to the vortex. ;-)
Hopefully this second attempt does not mutilate his post.
harry
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>Stephen A. Lawrence >Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:21:16 -0700 >>The patchup for emission theory is far worse: It consists of adding >
>Stephen A. Lawrence >Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:21:16 -0700 >>The patchup for emission theory is far worse: It consists of adding >knobs" to the theory which can be tweaked arbitrarily to make it agree >with whatever result you come up with. >>The problem is that as long as the propagation velocity is e
On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:20 PM, R C Macaulay wrote:
Not to worry.. if you want a safe haven for money.. it's not gold
or commodities.. it's beer, whiskey and wine.. the stuff is selling
in Galveston for real money while FEMA is giving mre's. water and
ice away. another one of the surest haven
Talk about conspiracy theories. We are watching the largest bank robbery
in history and nobody believes it is contrived.
AIG insured the whole mess and now takes a dive when payday comes.
Las Vegas Gambling casinos and established insurance companies cannot lose
money. It is simply impossible.
Michel
> but they say 150,000 miles (~10 years) in the original article posted...
Well, here is a directly on-point and long but inconclusive thread on the
subject:
http://gm-volt.com/2008/03/14/volt-pricing-to-take-high-battery-warranty-cost-into-account/
I'm pretty sure that Sony "said" te
With all this good feeling about the Volt and plug-in hybrids remember that
the *recharging electricity* probably comes from a untility burning gas,
oil, or uranium. Hydro and wind power can help, but that is a *fraction* of
the energy demand. The existing electric utilities like it because nigh
That's good news indeed!
<< Google and General Electric on Wednesday announced an unusual
alliance to promote greater use of renewable energy in the US.
...
The alliance reflects a shared view that sources of renewable energy
such as wind and solar power could quickly be used to meet a
significant
Hi Jones,
This (devil's advocate's I suspect) picture you brushed might be true
for the 50,000 miles battery life you assumed, but they say 150,000
miles (~10 years) in the original article posted by Jed, which is
about the same as the several other new automotive lithium
announcements we have hea
In a sea of gloom an doom a glimmer of light:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cd8d0e4e-850c-11dd-b148-779fd18c.html
http://tinyurl.com/43atw3
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
- Original Message
From: Terry Blanton
> Cost of ownership of the Volt will justify the capital investment.
ONLY if the batteries have a rock-solid replacement guarantee, and can actually
exceed it - allowing one to write off the investment over many years. Anyone
know what the gua
On a lighter note, the first Android was revealed today, sort of:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/09/17/dlgoogle117.xml
Google demos Android phone at developer day
By Claudine Beaumont
Last Updated: 6:01am BST 17/09/2008
Search giant Google has shown off its
On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Edmund Storms wrote:
Gold is up also because people are bailing out of paper money. The
financial system is in the precollapse stage and the crew is going
overboard.
Ed
Yes. I follow the Kitco graphs daily, and I don't recall ever seeing
the x-axis price
In contrast, Toyota sold the Prius at a loss at first and provided a
very good insurance policy that covered any flaw or inconvenience,
including free oil change. A person had nothing to lose by trying out
the new technology. Meanwhile, by the time the Volt hits the market,
the Prius wi
Cost of ownership of the Volt will justify the capital investment.
They're only building 10,000 to begin. You can lock one in still.
Terry
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Jed Rothwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Foster wrote:
>
>> I find this an exciting development. I hope GM can deli
Safe Havens went up 10% today. T Bills dropped.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCMdnmwJqCaM&refer=worldwide
Treasury 3-Month Bill Rates Drop to Lowest Since at Least 1954
By Sandra Hernandez and Agnes Lovasz
Sept. 17 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasury three-month bill rates drop
Michael Foster wrote:
I find this an exciting development. I hope GM can deliver. The 40
mile electric range would not quite cover my commute round-trip . . .
It is exciting, but unfortunately the car is slated to cost ~$40,000
so they will not sell many. It a luxury market product, for wealt
This is probably the last we will hear of it:
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2008/09/17/five-af-generals-disciplined-over-nukes/
"Source: Five Generals Disciplined Over Nukes
Source: Five Generals Disciplined Over Nukes
By Colin Clark Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 1:21 pm
Posted in Air, Policy
Defens
The real indication of demand is the differential between offer and
demand prices. This is usually a fraction of a point but Pd is seeing
several points spread.
Terry
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Horace Heffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Leapin' Lizards! The London palladium ETF is up 10%
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:20 PM, R C Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Warren Buffett skated on the deal last year that caught some AIG and Gen Re
> people playing poker with a pinocle deck and they got a few years at the
> desert hilton..
I love the analogy! Warren's brother Jimmy went offs
Howdy Horace,
Was it my imagination, or did I read early this year that AIG had moved
offshore to Caymans or Bermuda along with their 15 bil in cash. Further,
congress had passed a law last year that allowed big insurance firms to
maintain " cash equivilant" reserves in US banks in lieu of cash
Jed wrote;
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/999
>
> Calcars-news is the place to go for PHEV info. They have
> more
> in-depth technical details than news organizations do.
I find this an exciting development. I hope GM can deliver. The 40 mile
electric range would no
Gold is up also because people are bailing out of paper money. The
financial system is in the precollapse stage and the crew is going
overboard.
Ed
On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
Leapin' Lizards! The London palladium ETF is up 10% today:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=
Leapin' Lizards! The London palladium ETF is up 10% today:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PHPD.L
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
Oops! The mint is currently sold out of 1 oz. rounds.
Terry
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Terry Blanton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you want to hold the metal? How much you talking about? Short term or
> long?
>
> Here is the easiest way:
>
> http://bullion.nwtmint.com/palladium_maple_
Do you want to hold the metal? How much you talking about? Short term or long?
Here is the easiest way:
http://bullion.nwtmint.com/palladium_maple_leaf.php
You can get these through a metals broker, coin dealer, hell, even ebay. ;-)
For large transactions you need a commodities broker like K
On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
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Had GM fired Lutz-the-Putz years ago, back when he was strongly
dissing the Prius and spouting the gas-guzzler SUV spiel (epitomized
in the Hummer, Suburban, Yukon, Escalade etc. legacy -- which is the
Lutz legacy of 10 mpg) ... and ins
Original Message
From: Jed Rothwell
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/999
> Calcars-news is the place to go for PHEV info. They have more
in-depth technical details than news organizations do.
Thanks for mentioning this group. Just signed up, and it looks lik
- Original Message
From: Horace Heffner
> I see palladium is really cheap these days, about half price:
http://www.monex.com/monex/controller?pageid=prices
I agree that Pd could be an excellent investment, since it has fallen much more
than other precious metals, plus when the spi
See:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/calcars-news/message/999
Calcars-news is the place to go for PHEV info. They have more
in-depth technical details than news organizations do.
- Jed
On Sep 15, 2008, at 5:48 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
I moved to T Bills over a year ago. Will they survive?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_Crash_of_1929
Tery
You may be very happy about that choice. I didn't know money markets
could fail like this:
http://tinyurl.com/5a2cc8
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