It makes one wonder what might be contained in a classified report!
Thanks!
Terry
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:10 PM, New Energy Times
no-re...@newenergytimes.com wrote:
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*Monday, 16 November, 2009*
Defense Analysis Report
This refers to:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/2009DIA-08-0911-003.pdf
That is an astounding document. Even I think it is a little over-the-top.
- Jed
yeah. this is pretty blatant.
13 November 2009
Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions
Increasing and Gaining Acceptance
The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency assesses with high confidence that if
LENR (low-energy nuclear reactions) can produce nuclear-origin
This appeared to me to be really stunning! An official recognition
of the possibility of the reality of CF! However, I see the authors
include Mosier-Boss, McKubre, and Forsley. If the paper disappears
we won't know if it is due to security concerns or action by
pathological debunkers.
On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This refers to:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/2009DIA-08-0911-003.pdf
That is an astounding document. Even I think it is a little over-
the-top.
- Jed
I don't. I think there is huge potential for practical devices.
Even
On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
yeah. this is pretty blatant.
13 November 2009
Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear
Reactions Increasing and Gaining Acceptance
The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency assesses with high confidence
that if LENR
Horace Heffner wrote:
That is an astounding document. Even I think it is a little over-the-top.
I don't. I think there is huge potential for practical
devices. Even more critical is the fact a lot more effort is being
made in other countries.
Naturally, I agree with the sentiments
Who's Hot in Cold Fusion?
The countries with the most advanced LENR programs are Japan, Italy, and
Israel. In addition, Russia, France, China, South Korea, and India are
spending significant resources on LENR research. The following are among the
most notable efforts:
- In Japan, Iwamura at
Terry,
Good point regarding what might be in the classified report. These authors
are all very likely to have confidential information of their own research
and consulting with industry. I think their tone reflects something they
know but can't say. I think they correctly highlight just how far
The University of Utah's business consultant, Ira Magaziner, warned of such
a happening in the 1989 Congressional hearings.
Terry
On 11/16/09, Frank froarty...@comcast.net wrote:
Terry,
Good point regarding what might be in the classified report. These authors
are all very likely to have
Fran wrote:
Good point regarding what might be in the classified report. These authors
are all very likely to have confidential information of their own research
and consulting with industry.
Honestly, I doubt it. I doubt there is much important information about cold
fusion that I do not
What I found particularly interesting:
If rapid, explosive energy output can occur in one or several modes, could
LENR serve as a new high-energy-density explosive?
LOL! DIA and DOD interest. Where's DOE?
A belly-buster, IMO.
Cheeze!
Terry
I wrote:
They said the top secret government information was seldom more accurate or
informative than what is published in the New York Times.
I meant broad intelligence evaluations of policy issues and estimates of the
intentions of leaders. Obviously there was military intelligence far more
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote
It works both ways; the Soviets were much more afraid of the U.S. than
they should have been.
Although The Men Who Stare at Goats is a movie satire, it has much truth.
The French hoaxed the Soviets in telling them that
From Jed:
...
They also said the Soviet Threat was wildly overblown. They said this in
1964,
but few people believed them back then. The full extent of the
exaggerations did
not become clear to everyone until after the cold war ended. It works both
ways;
the Soviets were much more afraid of
At 10:15 PM 11/12/2009, Horace Heffner wrote:
In the event vortex-l goes down for an extended time, or gets shut
down by men in black, etc., I would like to suggest designating a
group on which messages can be exchanged to get status info and
regroup if necessary. I would like to suggest:
I think this is an important statement...
However, if by experts they mean Mosier-Boss, McKubre, etc., then less so
since these people,
altho certainly experts, are also insiders.
I would hope that at least some of the experts were people who have never done
any LENR research...
-Mark
Terry Blanton wrote:
What I found particularly interesting:
If rapid, explosive energy output can occur in one or several modes, could
LENR serve as a new high-energy-density explosive?
Answer: No! Definitely not. Probably definitely not.
LOL! DIA and DOD interest.
It go boom they
At 05:56 PM 11/16/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
This refers to:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/2009DIA-08-0911-003.pdf
That is an astounding document. Even I think it is a little over-the-top.
I actually don't think so. It seems to me to be a sober assessment.
They don't assign a
Mark Iverson wrote:
However, if by experts they mean Mosier-Boss, McKubre, etc., then less
so since these people, altho certainly experts, are also insiders.
I would hope that at least some of the experts were people who have never
done any LENR research...
I understand where you are coming
At 06:19 PM 11/16/2009, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
The U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency assesses with high confidence
that if LENR (low-energy nuclear reactions) can produce
nuclear-origin energy at room temperatures, this disruptive
technology could
Jed, then you've got some extremely liberal definition of 'insider'!
My definition of an insider is one who has at least done some
experimental/theoretical research on
the subject; LENR in this case.
Robert Duncan is an expert in calorimetry, but he most definitely is NOT and
insider!!!
On Nov 16, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Horace Heffner wrote:
On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
yeah. this is pretty blatant.
13 November 2009
Technology Forecast: Worldwide Research on Low-Energy Nuclear
Reactions Increasing and Gaining Acceptance
The U.S. Defense Intelligence
At 05:43 PM 11/16/2009, you wrote:
Terry,
Good point regarding what might be in the classified report. These authors
are all very likely to have confidential information of their own research
and consulting with industry. I think their tone reflects something they
know but cant say. I think
So the Intelligence community of the DoD looked into LENR, decided that
there's enough sound
scientific evidence to suggest that LENR just might be real, and because of the
most extraordinary
ramifications if it is real, is, with this report, warning government agencies
and the scientific
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