[Vo]:steorn 2009 patent: System and method for measuring energy in magnetic interactions

2009-12-29 Thread Esa Ruoho
(gleaned from overunity.com) US 2009/0009157 A1 : SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR MEASURING ENERGY IN MAGNETIC INTERACTIONS : An apparatus and method is provided for measuring magnetic force response time due to the magnetic viscosity of materials and for measuring total energy exchanged due to relative

Re: [Vo]:steorn 2009 patent: System and method for measuring energy in magnetic interactions

2009-12-29 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://www.google.com/patents?id=1dOyEBAJzoom=4pg=PA1#v=onepageq=f=true On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: (gleaned from overunity.com) US 2009/0009157 A1 : SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR MEASURING ENERGY IN MAGNETIC INTERACTIONS : An apparatus and method is

Re: [Vo]:steorn 2009 patent: System and method for measuring energy in magnetic interactions

2009-12-29 Thread Terry Blanton
You might note that these are patent applications. The patents are pending. Terry On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.google.com/patents?id=1dOyEBAJzoom=4pg=PA1#v=onepageq=f=true

RE: [Vo]:OT: Change Metal Surface to Reflct any Color (Not plating or Paint)

2009-12-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is great stuff! Amazing. Summary: they are changing the color of metals by changing the surface structure. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread froarty572
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:22:14 Jones Beene said   [snip] Others here on Vo - have mentioned or debated the fact that the gravity force must grow exponentially at close dimensions - IF - grand unification is accurate. I think it is accurate. Dufour puts some numbers to that

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/12/28 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net: - but the 2 eV available from loading alone without deuterium (contrast that to about .5 eV if the hydrogen were burned in air) is a huge surprise - Jones, where did you get that .5 eV figure? I did the maths and found about 1.5 eV instead, here is

RE: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Michel Jullian - but the 2 eV available from loading alone without deuterium (contrast that to about .5 eV if the hydrogen were burned in air) is a huge surprise - MJ: Jones, where did you get that .5 eV figure? I did the maths and found about 1.5 eV

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12/29/2009 11:19 AM, Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Michel Jullian - but the 2 eV available from loading alone without deuterium (contrast that to about .5 eV if the hydrogen were burned in air) is a huge surprise - MJ: Jones, where did you get that .5

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/12/29 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net: -Original Message- From: Michel Jullian - but the 2 eV available from loading alone without deuterium (contrast that to about .5 eV if the hydrogen were burned in air) is a huge surprise - MJ: Jones, where did you get that  .5 eV figure?

[Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Rick Monteverde wrote: Saw an orange fire colored UFO last night just after nightfall. The path was that of an object flying in a curved path at high altitude (a u-turn, basically), definitely not a satellite, and a bit brighter than a good space station

[Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Rick Monteverde wrote: Saw an orange fire colored UFO last night just after nightfall. The path was that of an object flying in a curved path at high altitude (a u-turn, basically), definitely not a satellite, and a bit brighter than a good space station

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Michel Jullian
2009/12/29 Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com: On 12/29/2009 11:19 AM, Jones Beene wrote: Since water can be split into H2 and O2 with 1.23 volts - does it stand to reason that one could get 1.5 eV in return ? That was rhetorical; and of course this one of nature's built-in cases of

[Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 28, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Rick Monteverde wrote: Saw an orange fire colored UFO last night just after nightfall. The path was that of an object flying in a curved path at high altitude (a u-turn, basically), definitely not a satellite, and a bit brighter than a good space station

Re: [Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
In case there is any doubt, the following is my final answer - unless of course I find other mistakes! 8^) On Dec 29, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Horace Heffner wrote: Hi Rick, Coincidentally, I saw something similar yesterday (Dec 28, 2009) around noon AKST, (about 11 orbits later) west of

RE: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Michel Jullian [ Or rather, as it turns out, exactly right. Physics works, contrary to your suggestions :) It works of course, but not as perfectly as you suggest, in real world applications. Besides, you don't have to take my word, see

[Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
For background information, the attached is a graphic showing my derivation of the formula used below. The umbra line, shown as horizontal, and the line segment x directly above the viewer is roughly the same as the altitude to an object on the umbra line, depending on the latitudinal

RE: [Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Rick Monteverde
Horace - My sighting wasn't just after sunset, it was just after nightfall - total darkness. There was just a vague hint of fading light on the horizon, but the sky surrounding the object, which was relatively low in the southwest, was already black. I did find something on the

RE: [Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Rick Monteverde
Sunset at my location in Honolulu that day was 5:59 PM, sighting was at 6:58 PM. I'll look for a star chart to get the sighting angle for the object. - R.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Change Metal Surface to Reflct any Color (Not plating or Paint)

2009-12-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Heat from welding can tint steel too, but I guess with lasers the effect can be controlled. This topic reminds of Chromoskedasic printing, where blackwhite photographic paper is chemically treated so that it will scatter light and generate abstract/psychedelic colour effects.

Re: [Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Rick Monteverde wrote: Horace – My sighting wasn’t just after sunset, it was just after nightfall - total darkness. There was just a vague hint of fading light on the horizon, but the sky surrounding the object, which was relatively low in the southwest,

RE: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Jones Beene
OK, vorticians. This is could be an important paper and topic, so let me add one more point of clarification to Michel Jullian's point about the heat of combustion of hydrogen, compared to the anomalous loading heat of Kitamura's claim. Michel correctly finds that if you only look at one-half of

[Vo]:Horrace help

2009-12-29 Thread fznidarsic
How do you calculate the phonon frequency in the solid. I get 10 exp 17 hertz..the number should be about 10 exp 12 hertz. Is there an easy way. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-29 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:00 AM 12/28/2009, William Beaty wrote: Rather than focusing on some perhaps-unexpected measurement, just close the loop. Ditch the battery. Make a perpetual wheel. Close the loop. If it's real, then closing the loop should be easy. If it's an artifact which misleads

[Vo]:Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Sourcebook Volume 2 abstracts

2009-12-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
The abstracts for each chapter are available here: http://pubs.acs.org/isbn/9780841224544 - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Personal:Little help with UFO sighting?

2009-12-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Sounds like a Fastwalker. Terry On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Rick Monteverde wrote: Horace – My sighting wasn’t just after sunset, it was just after nightfall -  total darkness. There was just a vague hint of

Re: [Vo]:Horrace help

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 29, 2009, at 12:08 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: How do you calculate the phonon frequency in the solid. I get 10 exp 17 hertz..the number should be about 10 exp 12 hertz. Is there an easy way. Frank Z Yes, from the very little information provided above I suspect there might be.

Re: [Vo]:Significant Implications - Kitamura

2009-12-29 Thread Terry Blanton
So, how does this compare to the recombination energy of atomic hydrogen? Here's a reference by a dubious source: http://www.cheniere.org/misc/a_h%20reaction.htm :-) Terry On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: OK, vorticians. This is could be an important

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-29 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: But there is the tantalizing middle. They find that they almost close the loop. You're giving them the benefit of the doubt. Count how many times you have to do that! It's very telling. Their acting very Newman-esque and using a battery?

Re: [Vo]:JL-naudin replicates current Steorn Orbo (Dec) demo

2009-12-29 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:58 PM 12/29/2009, William Beaty wrote: On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: But there is the tantalizing middle. They find that they almost close the loop. You're giving them the benefit of the doubt. Count how many times you have to do that! It's very telling. Their

Re: [Vo]:Horrace help

2009-12-29 Thread fznidarsic
In a message dated 12/29/2009 7:33:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, hheff...@mtaonline.net writes: Yes, from the very little information provided above I suspect there might be. I suspect you are using c as the speed of light instead of the speed of sound in the medium. Best regards,

Re: [Vo]:Horrace help

2009-12-29 Thread Horace Heffner
On Dec 29, 2009, at 6:42 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/29/2009 7:33:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, hheff...@mtaonline.net writes: Yes, from the very little information provided above I suspect there might be. I suspect you are using c as the speed of light instead of