[Vo]:Rossi's website-out?!

This morning (local time) Andrea Rossi's website is inaccesible. Hackers, Rossi's decision? How much will it last? -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

Abd stated: "So what happens? Half the water spills into the tube, half is vaporized and also flows into the tube. This is 50% quality steam, in the tube." I think that is a misunderstanding on your part, Abd. The 'wet' in wet steam is ONLY suspended water droplets, NOT water condensed on the i

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

Hey, Abd, may be the best way to catalyze thinking would be to set up a simple experiment to make a cell phone video: a simple transparent hot water system to model the behavior of a Rossi reactor: Rich Murray 2011.08.08 Use glass bottle with a long neck going from the side up at an angle, or a b

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

At 10:15 AM 8/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: This is in line with what I have heard from other experts. That's right. But now ask those experts what will happen if the feed water spills into the outlet tube. They have never seen such a thing. On the contrary this is

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

At 10:08 AM 8/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: With some tests of the eCat we can rule this out. It seems unlikely to me that it works in some tests but not others. Overflow water allows the E-cat to have an appearance of similar performance over a wide range of actual energies. My conclusion of

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

At 10:08 AM 8/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: NyTeknik maintains that the liquid mass is at most 10% (steam quality at least 90%) and because of this there is no significant error in measuring the heat output using the

[Vo]:Defkalion doesn't need Rossi's catalyzer

Dear all, I haven't seen any announcement from Defkalion regarding terminating their business, so the only conclusion I can have it is that they don't need the secret catalyzer. Do you know of a way to confirm that?

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

At 06:41 AM 8/8/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote: On Aug 8, 2011 6:45 AM, "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: > Uh, Jouni, "the wetness in steam" is "liquid water > droplets." What did you think it was? > You do not have sense of what is large droplet a

RE: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

Terry asked: "Now, the real question is who is Rossi's Don?" His wife! I should know, I was raised by an Italian woman!! ...and her maiden name is Rossi! I've always wanted to ask Andrea Rossi where he grew up... wouldn't that be a hoot if we are distant cousins! -Mark _ From: Te

Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax

Harry, thanks for the correction. I have discussed this subject previously only in Finnish, so I was unsure if the basic income is widely used term. In finnish language, we do not use the term negative income tax, but indeed we use basic income. (Economic impact is the same for both but administrat

[Vo]:Anti-nuclear power sentiment at Hiroshima memorial service

At the annual memorial service in Hiroshima, the city mayor came out strongly against nuclear power. The PM also said that the nation has to move beyond it. Some children exiled from Fukushima were seated close to the front, and were interviewed on national TV. I would say that conventional fissio

Re: [Vo]:Pyrophoricity and its counterpart for Reduction

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > It could be geometry modified by chemistry, so > that is only works with a catalyst in proper geometry. I think you are close to the mark. It's the cilia attachment of the catalyst which acts as the whip to the Ni geometry to create the mir

Re: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Man on Bridges wrote: > Hi, > > > On 9-8-2011 2:20, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> More like, "My consigliere said to shut the eff up." >> > > I guess this is Terry-speak for :"his wife ordered Andrea to keep his mouth > shut as negotiations are still under way ?" ;-) >

Re: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

Hi, On 9-8-2011 2:20, Terry Blanton wrote: More like, "My consigliere said to shut the eff up." I guess this is Terry-speak for :"his wife ordered Andrea to keep his mouth shut as negotiations are still under way ?" ;-) Kind regards, MoB

[Vo]:Pyrophoricity and its counterpart for Reduction

-Original Message- From: Roarty, Francis X > Steven, The secret addition may or may not need to be a catalyst if it is the SHAPE of the Nickel grains and how they Interlock with each other that is the controlling factor. I suggest the pyrophoricity of metal powders is also heavily depende

Re: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: > ** > LoL! > With wads of cotton in his cheeks... > That would be the Don. Now, the real question is who is Rossi's Don? T

RE: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

LoL! With wads of cotton in his cheeks... -Mark _ From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 5:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Translation:

Re: [Vo]:[Political OT]: Global negative income tax

These are related proposals, but unlike the negative income tax concept, basic income is a universal and unconditional payment.    Basic Income pilot project has just begun in India: http://binews.org/2011/08/opinion-two-pilot-schemes-in-india/   A Basic Income project in Nambia: http://www.bignam

Re: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: > ** > Translation: > > "Defkalion has kissed enough of Rossi's behind and smoothed Rossi's ruffled > feathers, and all is good for now..." > > More like, "My consigliere said to shut the eff up." T

RE: [Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

Translation: "Defkalion has kissed enough of Rossi's behind and smoothed Rossi's ruffled feathers, and all is good for now..." Does that mean that DGT is still in the game if they hurry up and produce according to the contract? Time will tell... -Mark _ From: Terry Blanton [mailto

[Vo]:TIS THE SEASON FOR NO MORE COMMENTS

Andrea Rossi August 8th, 2011 at 4:44 PM WARNING TO ALL THE READERS OF THE JOURNAL OF NUCLEAR PHYSICS: WITH THIS LETTER OF DEFKALION, AFTER THE LETTER OF PROF. STREMMENOS AND THE PRESS RELEASE OF EFA SRL, AND AFTER THE MANY C

Re: [Vo]:Galantini report rules out overflow hypothesis in the tests he observed

Mark Iverson wrote: ** > Had Galantini submitted this report a long time ago, it could have saved > alot of net bandwidth... > Yup. I'd like to reiterate that this applies to *tests that Galantini observed*. It does not rule out the hypothesis that water overflowed in other tests, such as the o

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:05 PM, wrote: > In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:28:12 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >I'll render a guess that it's KaCO3. > > I suggested NaOH months ago (just before Dennis Cravens stopped > contributing. ;) > > Yeah, I think that is what Jones was r

RE: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?

Hi Steven... I've taken part in this aspect of a startup more than once. And it's just started for the E-Cat... No doubt there will be several more, but the bluff and posturing may never see the light of the public venue since Rossi has made it clear that he's holding nearly all the cards... H

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Mon, 8 Aug 2011 09:28:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] >I'll render a guess that it's KaCO3. I suggested NaOH months ago (just before Dennis Cravens stopped contributing. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Rossi says no tests of his e-cat technology have been made in GREECE. Defkalion may still have some prototype hyperion units  (containing e-cats) in another country.     Harry From: Jed Rothwell >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 2:57:41 PM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dream is ove

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

Q1) Is your new customer going to produce e-cats under licence or is it just going to buy e-cats from you? (ajf: Presumably US customer) 1- Buy from Leonardo Corporation Q2) When do you think will the R&D with Bologna University start? before or after the 1MW plant? 2- We didn't deci

RE: [Vo]:The dream is over?

It takes a lawyer, or a former lawyer, to recognize the following comment by Jones (a former lawyer): 2)"There are no Rossi reactors in Greece." True. In fact the reactors submitted to the Greek government are made by DGT, called Hyperions and are not Rossi's E-Cats, and come from a design o

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

>From Bridges: > Hmm, what about this one: "Mountain View, Ca" (Google HQ) ? That is interesting speculation. I had wondered about Google as well. They DO have a lot of power hungry servers that need lots of constant care and feeding. I suspect Google has lots of cash on hand as well - probably a

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

Mark, Good point about hundreds of entities just waiting to take Defkalion's place -If Defkallion was foolish enough to commit a breach of contract then Rossi gets to renegotiate with whoever he pleases, only now, he is in a far stronger position to dictate terms. I would bet a larger su

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

That was my thought. 1000 units throughout the country sounds like google putting units into some of their mobile server trees. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Man on Bridges wrote: > Hi, > > On 8-8-2011 20:11, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >> >> Here's my pick of the hour! ;-) >> Seattl

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Daniel Rocha wrote: Jed, I meant dismissed before he split out of Defkalion. He was okay with > them lying while there was promise of money from Defkalion. If that was some > minor detail, that would be alright, like releasing date, some fine detail > about the working of the machines. But, they

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

>From Terry: ... > I don't know if you saw it; but, Spaandonk mentioned Ford Motor Company. >  Consider this, the mean power comsumption of an automobile traveling at 60 > mph is on the order of 16 kW.  The peak power consumption of the average > home is on the order of 10 kW.  The mean power con

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

Someone could ask Rossi if he knows who Serge and Larry are!

RE: [Vo]:Galantini report rules out overflow hypothesis in the tests he observed

Had Galantini submitted this report a long time ago, it could have saved alot of net bandwidth... It is also very similar reasoning to what I tried to explain many months ago, then on 8/4, and again recently with Jeff Driscoll off-list. 1) It is NOT necessary to have AIR (i.e., N2 and O2) pre

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

Terry sez: > Don't forget that Motorola was going to invest in the Patterson Cold Fusion > power cell.  Now, who was recently in the news about having more money than > the United States?  Apple! > What better investor in the iCat than Apple. > Did I say iCat? Yes you did! Why is my iPad heatin

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

Don't forget that Motorola was going to invest in the Patterson Cold Fusion power cell. Now, who was recently in the news about having more money than the United States? Apple! What better investor in the iCat than Apple. Did I say iCat? T

RE: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Whoa! The Dream is not over. It has just been renamed . and/or redefined. There does not have to be a lie. The scenario which keeps everyone (both Rossi and DGT) technically honest is: 1)Cyprus is not Greece, and there are at least two corporate entities involved with similar names - ma

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?

Thanks Andrea, It would appear that Mr. Iverson's assessment may have been pretty accurate. Put out [the money] or it's the hi-way. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson < svj.orionwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does anyone seriously consider the possibility that an energy firm, > possibly even a petroleum corporation might be nibbling? > I don't know if you saw it; but, Spaandonk mentioned Ford Motor Co

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?

At 12:01 PM 8/8/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Andrea Rossi August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM the only problem has been that they were delaying from months their financial duties, until it has not been possible to go ahead. Of course, since they have not respected what due, Which contradicts Ros

Re: [Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

Hi, On 8-8-2011 20:11, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Here's my pick of the hour! ;-) Seattle / Microsoft. (Ahhh... Probably not! I don't think Microsoft has ever shown that much vision.) Hmm, what about this one: "Mountain View, Ca" (Google HQ) ? Kind regards, MoB

Re: [Vo]:Galantini report rules out overflow hypothesis in the tests he observed

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Enzo wrote: >> ("ictu oculi" means "in the blink of an eye" in Latin. Not sure what it >> means in this context.) > > It means that he verified it only with his eyes not with other methods. More precisely, the sense is "the eye was enough to verify that..."

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?

Andrea Rossi August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM Dear Alessandro Casali: I repeat that the reason of the split from Defkalion has been only and exclusively financial. As for all the other issue: as all our Readers know, I always said that we would have been ready for the market from November only with

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Jed, I meant dismissed before he split out of Defkalion. He was okay with them lying while there was promise of money from Defkalion. If that was some minor detail, that would be alright, like releasing date, some fine detail about the working of the machines. But, they lied about everything! They

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Alan J Fletcher wrote: > This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's > statements about testing in the Greek government. > > > Except that Defkalion never said they built a CORE (The "fist-sized" part > of the mini-eCat). > Rossi says "Not one single test, of the man

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

>From Daniel: > I am not talking about something personal. Just that there was at the very > least a scam from Defkalion. Again, it's just business! Perhaps the following links will shed light on the "nothing personal" phrase. ;-) http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/29227 http://www.great-quot

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Daniel Rocha wrote: I am not talking about something personal. Just that there was at the very > least a scam from Defkalion. Perhaps, but I think it is more likely that Rossi is lying about what Defkalion has. I think it is unlikely he does not realize what they have. But I suppose it is poss

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

At 11:37 AM 8/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: I wrote: One or the other has to be lying. PESN agrees with me. See: http://pesn.com/2011/08/07/9501887_An_E-Cat_Full_of_Lies_-_Rossi_or_Defkalion/ This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's statements about testing in the

Re: [Vo]:Galantini report rules out overflow hypothesis in the tests he observed

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > 12- An empirical confirmation, not rigorous though, is the fact that I > extracted many times the probe from the chimney of the reactor, and it was > "ictu oculi" dry: being the chimney a small vertical cylinder, due to the > gravity in short

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Daniel Rocha wrote: So, at the very least, Rossi erred by omission, a very bad one, by not > dismissing Defkalion's claims of massively testing e-cats. So, he blatantly > associated with liars and cheaters. I do not understand what you mean, "not dismissing." He does dismiss them. He says " Not

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

I am not talking about something personal. Just that there was at the very least a scam from Defkalion.

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

>From Daniel: > So, at the very least, Rossi erred by omission, a very bad one, by not > dismissing Defkalion's claims of massively testing e-cats. So, he blatantly > associated with liars and cheaters. It's just business. Nothing personal. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

I wrote: One or the other has to be lying. > PESN agrees with me. See: http://pesn.com/2011/08/07/9501887_An_E-Cat_Full_of_Lies_-_Rossi_or_Defkalion/ This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's statements about testing in the Greek government. A later report: http

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

So, at the very least, Rossi erred by omission, a very bad one, by not dismissing Defkalion's claims of massively testing e-cats. So, he blatantly associated with liars and cheaters.

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

Daniel Rocha wrote: > So, we now are aware that one of the parties, either Rossi's or Defkalion, > has been telling big lies. That makes everything questionable. So, I think > it is safe to say that, true or not, Rossi's device is at a dead end. > On the contrary, when people start fighting ove

[Vo]:Recent comments from Rossi

Recent comments from Rossi. From: http://pesn.com/2011/08/08/9501889_Defkalion_Responds_Ignores_Rossis_Accusation/ Excerpts: Aug 7: > ...But the tech must go on, we signed a tremendous contract > in the USA. The Customer has already made plans for 1,000 > plants in the USA, and has the financi

[Vo]:Galantini report rules out overflow hypothesis in the tests he observed

The Galantini report has been discussed this morning. The link to it is here: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3228358.ece/BINARY/Galantini+steam+report.pdf Item 12 rules out the possibility that unboiled water was flowing out of the cell in the tests that Galantini observed. It says: 12-

RE: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

Someone felt that it appears that Defkalion is acting conciliatory... This isn't surprising at all... Defkalion and/or Stemmenos confirmed that Rossi's comment about it being 'purely financial' would explain what has happened. For whatever reasons, Defkalion has not performed according to the c

[Vo]:New papers on BLP website

http://blacklightpower.com/new.shtml BLP has finally updated their website for news and papers occurring over the past 6 months - I thought they were gone silent but apparently only their web-master was remiss in providing updates. An article dated 7/21/11 on soft X-ray continuum looks interest

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

I think it is difficult to think that Rossi was not aware of what was written on the Defkalion's forums by the their staff: - They have build working systems -- kilowatt scale and megawatt scale. - Their design for the reactor is different than yours, but is fully functional. - They n

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

It depends on what was your dream- Rossi's E-cat or LENR performed with Ni but also with all transition metals on industrial level. However it would be good to know who has told the Big LIe Rossi or the Greek Company- do they (the Company) have generators and some basic know how? Can they continu

[Vo]: cosmic ray antiprotons

FYI: Discovery of geomagnetically trapped cosmic ray antiprotons http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.4882v1.pdf Excerpts from abstract: "This Letter reports the discovery of an antiproton radiation belt around the Earth. The trapped antiproton energy spectrum in the South Atlantic An

Re: [Vo]:The dream is over?

>From Daniel, > So, we now are aware that one of the parties, either Rossi's or Defkalion, > has been telling big lies. That makes everything questionable. So, I think > it is safe to say that, true or not, Rossi's device is at a dead end. Indeed it raises plenty of questions of the soap opera ki

Re: [Vo]:Re: Galantini report

2011/8/8 Mattia Rizzi : > Wrong. We have e-mails from Galantini. >> lo strumento utilizzato indica  i gr. di acqua per mc. di vapore > > Translation: the instruments give grams of water per m^3 of steam. Ok. My fault. But now we have a more precise report of what he did. Is that a correct proced

[Vo]:A Mills catalyst for E-Cat ? was: Press release from Defkalion

As you say Terry, Mills has defined the required catalytic "energy hole" in such a way that most of the periodic table can be shoehorned into his parameters ... that is: if you allow all of the possible permutations: IOW all of those which work out to a ~27.2 eV NET (ionization-potential) hole -

[Vo]:The dream is over?

So, we now are aware that one of the parties, either Rossi's or Defkalion, has been telling big lies. That makes everything questionable. So, I think it is safe to say that, true or not, Rossi's device is at a dead end.

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

Daniel sez: > Looks like the Witch Doctor was right at least about a few things, like > Rossi still looking for support. Thanks for the Stremmenos translation, Daniel. In regards to the "Witch Doctor" possibly being right about a few things, I remember a quote I got from them way back in the 19

RE: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Monday, August 08, 2011 8:49 AM Steven Vincent Johnson wrote [snip] I'm reminded of something Mr. Blanton recently speculated on, that perhaps the "secret sauce" angle had been a ruse all along, that the secret has much more to do with overall geometry of the nickel particles as they interact w

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

Looks like the Witch Doctor was right at least about a few things, like Rossi still looking for support.

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

*"Ch Stremmenos* The writer in hierarchical order, has sought to pursue in his life and humbly serve the following VALUES: - scientific truth and its contribution anthropocentric ... ... - The values ​​of culture, democracy, human civilization and environmental health as it develops.

Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

> From Daniele Passerini's blog: (google translated) > http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F22passi.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F08%2Fstremmenos-sulla-rottura-tra-rossi-e.html Can someone translate the contents and post it out here. The site is blocked at some business

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: This is in line with what I have heard from other experts. That's right. But now ask those experts what will happen if the feed water spills into the outlet tube. They have never seen such a thing. On the contrary this is a common occurrence. It happens when boile

[Vo]:Stremmenos' answer.

>From Daniele Passerini's blog: (google translated) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F22passi.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F08%2Fstremmenos-sulla-rottura-tra-rossi-e.html

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > NyTeknik maintains that the liquid mass is at most 10% (steam quality at >> least 90%) and because of this there is no significant error in measuring >> the heat output using the steam. >> > > That's based on a steam expert, apparently, who has probably never seen, i

[Vo]:Re: Galantini report

Wrong. We have e-mails from Galantini. --- Data: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:02:22 +0200 Da: Greit Service srl Rispondi-A:Greit Service srl [omissis] A: [omissis] Buon giorno, in merito alla richiesta fattami in data odierna, come da me ripetutamente confermato alle numerose persone che me ne hanno fat

Re: [Vo]:Re: Galantini report

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: > In past Galantini said "gr of liquid water / m^3 of vapor". In past the we didn't have the words of Galantini, only reports of them by journalists/bloggers

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > my old guess is: it is Ni(e)NTe > > I tend to stick with you on that; but, Jones usually has inside information and loves to tease us. T

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > >> I'll render a guess that it's KaCO3. >> >> > That's a mix of potassium carbonate and calcium carbonate. ;-) > I think CaCO3 or K2CO3 would work. T

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > I'll render a guess that it's KaCO3. > > That's a mix of potassium carbonate and calcium carbonate. ;-) T

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

my old guess is: it is Ni(e)NTe On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:48 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < >> orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I'm reminded of someth

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:48 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < > orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > > >> >> I'm reminded of something Mr. Blanton recently speculated on, that perhaps >> the "secret sauce" angle had been a ruse all al

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:48 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > > I'm reminded of something Mr. Blanton recently speculated on, that perhaps > the "secret sauce" angle had been a ruse all along, that the secret has > much > more to do with overall geometry o

RE: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

After reading Defkalion's response: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3228643.ece/BINARY/DGT+Statement+8+Au gust+2011.pdf Another excerpt: > Defkalion believes in Andrea Rossi, his invention, > and the ability to successfully bring to the world > this revolutionary invention where society w

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Terry, if i take a peek into stock markets, the difference is nonexisting! > ;-) Indeed, this man knows: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/worlds-richest-man-carlos-slim-loses-67-billion-estimates-say/story-e6frg6so-1226110224598

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

Very surprising since wetness is "water droplets." IE coalescence of water droplets into larger droplets does not change the steam quality. - Original Message - From: Jouni Valkonen To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik cover

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

Terry, if i take a peek into stock markets, the difference is nonexisting! ;-) On Aug 8, 2011 3:29 PM, "Terry Blanton" wrote: > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: >> I think that Defkalion lies with statement. The economic value of E-Cat is >> about 86 teradollars per year. The

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > I think that Defkalion lies with statement. The economic value of E-Cat is > about 86 teradollars per year. Therefore there is just no such economic > influence that could have any impact on E-Cat. If Exxon tries to influence > to E-Cat it is

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

Hi, On 8-8-2011 13:44, Terry Blanton wrote: "During the months since January 2011, both interested parties (Andrea Rossi through EFA and Defkalion Green Technologies) have received very strong international pressure and to many degrees business traps from banks, financial partners, etc. to cance

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

I think that Defkalion lies with statement. The economic value of E-Cat is about 86 teradollars per year. Therefore there is just no such economic influence that could have any impact on E-Cat. If Exxon tries to influence to E-Cat it is like a mosquito trying to influence the orbit of Earth. E-Cat'

Re: [Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

"During the months since January 2011, both interested parties (Andrea Rossi through EFA and Defkalion Green Technologies) have received very strong international pressure and to many degrees business traps from banks, financial partners, etc. to cancel the project." It's about time the Rothchilds

[Vo]:Press release from Defkalion:

Statement from Defkalion Green Technologies, August 8, 2011. The invention of Andrea Rossi received international doubt due to its ground-breaking nature having the capacity to change the global energy sector. Tremendous efforts have been made by Andrea Rossi to establish credibility for his inven

[Vo]:Re: Galantini report

In past Galantini said "gr of liquid water / m^3 of vapor". The instrument give gr. of water / m^3 of air, because it's absolute humidity (read manual or wikipedia) -Messaggio originale- From: Enzo Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:33 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Galant

Re: [Vo]:NyTeknik coverage of Rossi - Defkalion split

On Aug 8, 2011 6:45 AM, "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" wrote: > Uh, Jouni, "the wetness in steam" is "liquid water > droplets." What did you think it was? > You do not have sense of what is large droplet and and what is tiny droplet such as in fog. But I pardon me, that i should make this specification b

Re: [Vo]:Galantini report

On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Susan Gipp wrote: > At 1 he does not say what is cubic/meter. Instrument manifacturer says air, > he says nothing, hoping to hide in this way the first and bigger error made > in the measurement. > With these basis, all the rest appears to me quite meaningless . I

Re: [Vo]:Galantini report

At 1 he does not say what is cubic/meter. Instrument manifacturer says air, he says nothing, hoping to hide in this way the first and bigger error made in the measurement. With these basis, all the rest appears to me quite meaningless . 2011/8/8 Enzo > > http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article32

[Vo]:Galantini report

http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3228358.ece/BINARY/Galantini+steam+report.pdf

RE: [Vo]: OT, Dr. Burzynski and antineoplastons

At this time the movie is free to view at the website run by his patients who have been cured... http://burzynskipatientgroup.org/ -Mark _ From: Mark Iverson [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:37 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]: OT, Dr. Burzyn