Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Sufficiently, to exclude hidden chemical power sources. If there was > hidden fuel, such as thermite or propanol/oxygen mixture . . . || Exactly. This is even more the case for the 18-hour test in Feb. That device was easy to look into, an

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > You don't know and I don't know. > I hope we agree that "you don't know and I don't know" is not support for the idea that Rossi is telling the truth. Otherwise, I will have to bring back my unicorn example again.

[Vo]:US Military E-Cat Purchase -- Tracking Down Details

I would like to start this thread as a place where details about the deal between the US military and Andrea Rossi can be discussed. In my opinion, it is a very big deal that a very experienced engineer not only validated the technology on Oct. 28th, but now the military is purchasing an additio

Re: [Vo]:E-Cats and 450 deg C steam

Difficult to guess what's the PRIMARY FLUID. It cannot be organic, perhaps molten salts or molten metal. On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Very interesting news: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-** > physics.com/?p=510&cpage=35#**comment-130799

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Ignoring conflicting commercial interests, both camps agree that Ni-LENR works. See Allan Widom's Feb 10, 2010 Army Research Labs presentation: "Collective Nuclear Reactions in Condensed Matter" http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2010/ARL/Pres/02Widom-WidomLarsenTheory.pdf The "CONCLUS

Re: [Vo]:E-Cats and 450 deg C steam

I think this is very good news. If he can create electricity even moderately efficiently, this technology is going to change the world -- BIG TIME! The big cost difference between E-Cat technology and conventional technologies will of course be the fuel cost. The fuel cost for a one megawatt

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

Obviously, Leonardo Corporation and LTI would not want to reveal the location of their labs that contain confidential equipment. From: Giovanni Santostasi To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporati

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

This guy is obviously very desperate. I think Larsen is jealous that Rossi has been able to build practical cold fusion systems, and he has not. He is so desperate he has Krivit helping him attack those who do not support his theory. When the E-Cat technology is powering the world, Larsen an

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

Here is a Run I did Nov. 6 that shows what can happen if water is exposed directly the internal thermal storage without a damping influence, like intervening insulation: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/Graph2Sa.png This clearly shows things can get fairly spikey, depending on the intern

[Vo]:PetrolDragon Wiki

Here is the entry on Italian Wiki about PetrolDragon, the original Rossi's company. G

Re: [Vo]: Scientists behind ecat.com

Read the comments in this interview and substitute e-cat with i-pad or any tech device that a normal company would sell. Does it work? Well, it is up to Steve Jobs to make sure it works. No, it doesn't. It is absurd. G. http://coldfusiondevices.com/cold-fusion/swedish-physicists-behind-ecat-com

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

A primer for electroweak induced low-energy nuclear reactions, Srivastava, Widom, Larsen 2010 October: Rich Murray 2011.11.26 Reedited for clarity -- also helps me integrate the many ideas... Three ring circus ! What does Hagelstein think? Is neutron production via spark exploded wires reported b

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Three ring circus ! What does Hagelstein think? Is neutron production via spark exploded wires reported by many independent labs? How hard would this be for amateurs? Could tiny experiments generate neutrons at low costs and high safety? What would happen if a wire was embedded in a diamond an

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Nice sales pitch: http://www.ias.ac.in/pramana/v75/p617/fulltext.pdf "The analysis presented in this paper leads us to conclude that realistic possibilities exist for designing LENR devices capable of producing `green energy', that is, production of excess heat at low cost without lethal nucle

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Hey Jed you got a mention: "For example, someof the more publicly visible membersof this tactically cohesivecore group of cold fusioneers include, in no particular order, Dr. Edmund Storms, Prof. Peter Hagelstein, Dr. Michael McKubre, Mitchell Swartz, M.D., Prof. David Nagel, Dr. Michael Melic

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

...the macrocosm (dusty plasmas and magnetic-regime astrophysical phenomena on large length-scales), recently published in a refereed Indian Academy of Science journal as follows (much less mathematically intensive than our EPJC paper published in 2006): “A primer for electroweak induced low-energy

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

OK Horace, You have supplied the information that is needed to answer the questions. Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 11:10 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta Dave,

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

Rossi doesn't behave very ethically or in a trustworthy way as a business man either. Plus he is not just a business man, he pretends to be an engineer and what is selling is not a toy or a novel but a technical device to produce energy and as so it has to obey the laws of nature. My position is

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

Hi Horace, Thanks for the information concerning your model. It helps to visualize the time delay effects that have been difficult to get a handle upon. I notice that the model has only one dimensional variable which is this case is X, but we probably get a fairly good idea about the tempera

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Basically he says CF is wrong but CF is correct? 2011/11/27 Jed Rothwell > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > Jed should really read this!!! >> > > Yes. It is hilarious, isn't it? > > Now we know where Krivit gets his weird notions. (Actually, aficonados > have known all along.) > > - Jed > > -- Daniel

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Daniel Rocha wrote: Jed should really read this!!! > Yes. It is hilarious, isn't it? Now we know where Krivit gets his weird notions. (Actually, aficonados have known all along.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

This is an outrage! I object! Larsen called me "the textually prolific Internet poster-commenter Mr. Jed Rothwell." Textual, yes. Prolific, sure. But I do *not* post on the Internet. This is a mailing list, not the Internet. The total text I have posted at LENR-CANR is not even as much as one colu

Re: [Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

Jed should really read this!!! 2011/11/27 > More controversy between LENR competitors --- > > Lewis Larsen-Lattice Energy LLC-Comments re Mr. Andrea Rossi & E-Cat > Technology-Nov 26 2011 > > > http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lewis-larsenlattice-energy-llccomments-re-mr-andrea-rossi-ecat-

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > But, as a scientist I want the truth and I hate, yes hate, scam artists of > any type, in particular when they use science as a prop for their > egotistical and destructive goals.Rossi is making astounding claims so he > should be under intense scrutiny and people s

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

Dave, I don't have time for this kind of discussion now. I am only about half way through my E-cat analysis, so I see no point in discussing that. Results will be available if and when I finish writing them. I haven't even finished my photographic analysis. It seems to me a waste of t

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Opened up to exactly how much inspection? > > > > Sufficiently, to exclude hidden chemical power sources. If there was > hidden fuel, such as thermite or propanol/oxygen mixture . . . Exactly. This is even more the case for the 18-hour test in Feb. That device was easy t

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

@ Jouni Valkonen said: show details 8:56 PM (55 minutes ago) > This your religious nonsense, is against the forum rules. I'm not attacking or insulting anybody in particular (differently from you mentioning my life of which you don't knoq anything). But away I have a PhD in Physics and I have taug

[Vo]:Lattice Energy LLC comments on Rossi

More controversy between LENR competitors --- Lewis Larsen-Lattice Energy LLC-Comments re Mr. Andrea Rossi & E-Cat Technology-Nov 26 2011 http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/lewis-larsenlattice-energy-llccomments-re-mr-andrea-rossi-ecat-technologynov-26-2011

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

2011/11/27 Charles Hope : > > > On Nov 26, 2011, at 22:32, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> If you are talking about his experimental results, I will stop believing >> them when: >> >> 1. When Mary Yugo finds a stage magician who can tell us how to fake this, >> even when the machine is opened up to ins

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > When Bertrand Russell was being jailed in England during WWI for being > a pacifist, the admitting officer was puzzled when Russell named his > religious affiliation as "agnostic" -- shrugging, the man said, "Never > heard of that one, sir --

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

While humor can be in a spirit of mutual good will and commendable friendly playfulness, adding to social bonding in a discussion, long established traditions of courtesy suggest avoiding sexual innuendos, since many participants are female people who live with plenty of often unconscious distracti

[Vo]:E-Cats and 450 deg C steam

Very interesting news: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510&cpage=35#comment-130799 Andrea Rossi: Actually, we have found a breakthrough with a primary fluid with which the reactors remain stable when we make steam at 450 Celsius. Italo A. Albanese: Did you get 450 Celsius from j

Re: [Vo]: translation of the Corriere's article (corrected from Google)

Here is a much better translation: Cold fusion: turning point or bluff The E-Cat under scrutiny at the University of Bologna The Physics Researchers: impartial analysis, then the verdict Andrea Rossi and the E-Cat LONDON - It will be the University of Bologna to put the final seal [of approval]

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Nov 26, 2011, at 22:32, Jed Rothwell wrote: > If you are talking about his experimental results, I will stop believing them > when: > > 1. When Mary Yugo finds a stage magician who can tell us how to fake this, > even when the machine is opened up to inspection. Opened up to exactly how

Re: [Vo]:got permission to send

2011/11/27 ecat builder : > Here is a list of all the videos from Lane Davis on Frank's Z-Theory: > http://tinyurl.com/ztheory > In YouTube format, for you international folks... > I just cannot understand why people have a perversion to classical physics. Democritus proved more than 2000 years ag

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > In the case of e-cat we could say that the evidence showing that the > corporations associated with Rossi have strange websites . . . > Start up companies usually have strange websites. Rossi always has strange websites. That does not prove anything either way. >

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

When Bertrand Russell was being jailed in England during WWI for being a pacifist, the admitting officer was puzzled when Russell named his religious affiliation as "agnostic" -- shrugging, the man said, "Never heard of that one, sir -- well, all the same, we all worship the same God..." On Sat, N

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

Hello Bastiaan Bergman, I am grateful for and impressed by your civil, thoughtful response to my critical suggestions. I will be careful from now on to send you careful, detailed, specific comments, probably critical, as my goal is to hear and share the voice of public evidence, within the rather

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Yes Terry.  It's usual to assemble a container size megawatt nuclear > power plant in a residential condominium. You are so cute! No, they do not assemble reactors in a condominium. However, they *could* oversee manufacturing of components f

Re: [Vo]:got permission to send

The videos are just some background on Planck and Bohr. They state Planck's constant is empirical and the Bohr model even with the help of Schrodinger depends on the empirical formulation. They are from Germany Milestones of Science and Technology and quite good. -Original Message-

Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

On Nov 26, 2011, at 7:11 AM, David Roberson wrote: It has been suggested that it is not possible to obtain the rapid increase in output power measured for the Rossi ECATs. The reason stated is that the core would have to have its temperature multiplied by a factor of 6 or so to deliver

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Entanglement of naked protons may be more interesting. AG On 11/27/2011 1:44 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: I don't know about you, but I come here for the naked protons. Harry On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: Terry, I'm sho

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Mary Yugo wrote: > >> He's already sold 13 of these things and plans to deliver in them in 3 > >> months. > > > If I said he was a scammer and will be arrested, you'd correct me to > be sure I said it was my opinion and in any case far from proven or > certain. I would never say that! You hav

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

I don't know about you, but I come here for the naked protons. Harry On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > >> Terry, I'm shocked. > > Yes, the f-word offends me, too.  I was only trying to protect your virtue. > > ;-) > > T >

[Vo]:Re: Rossi refuse to answer about the publication of calorimetry test that will be done in Universities

Ah, ask if results will be made available BEFORE patent protection. From: Mattia Rizzi Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:04 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Rossi refuse to answer about the publication of calorimetry test that will be done in Universities Many and many times Rossi said that

[Vo]:Rossi refuse to answer about the publication of calorimetry test that will be done in Universities

Many and many times Rossi said that R&D is confidential and that no more information will be made available until patent protection. Well, i and others guys have asked to Rossi about the publication of caolorimetry test results from Universities, and if Bologna and Uppsala will be free to publis

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Mary Yugo wrote: > How do we know Ampenergo knows things? I know things because people tell me. You appear to know things because you have ESP. How did we rule out that Ampenergo is in on a scam? If they are, they are very good at scamming world-class experts well known to McKubre and othe

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Craig Haynie wrote: >> He's already sold 13 of these things and plans to deliver in them in 3 >> months. If I said he was a scammer and will be arrested, you'd correct me to be sure I said it was my opinion and in any case far from proven o

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Appreciate the history lesson. Good stuff. I do agree with you that F & P deserve a Noble for their work. Then they can fund Jed's work with a small part of the prize money. AG On 11/27/2011 1:16 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Seems I hav

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Craig Haynie > wrote: > >> So he seems to have the corporation set up on paper in at least two >> states, but hasn't yet started production in America. > > You really don't know that.  That is pure speculati

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Craig Haynie wrote: > What would be the advantage to Rossi if he provided a conclusive test? > > He's already sold 13 of these things and plans to deliver in them in 3 > months. If he really has orders backed up for these, then he could > probably make a couple hundred million dollars by the tim

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Jed has rendered excellent volunteer service to our world with his detailed, mildly biased, comprehensive archive of published scientific studies and workshop proceedings. within mutual service, Rich Murray On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:38 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > So a scam to rip off investors is ruled out. How do we know Ampenergo knows things?   How did we rule out that Ampenergo is in on a scam?  Ampenergo (vile name by the way -- reminds me of Ampere No go)  promised they'd start selling a megaw

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > So he seems to have the corporation set up on paper in at least two > states, but hasn't yet started production in America. You really don't know that. That is pure speculation. Yes, the registered address is a condominium in Miami; but, w

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

People keep bringing old topics to discuss over and over again 2011/11/27 Craig Haynie > On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 18:28 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton > wrote: > > > He moved his US operation to Miami. > > > > He has a factory in Miami? Where? I mi

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

It seems that many e-cat believers have almost a religious attitude towards this topic. Anything that a rational mind would interpret as evidence of the non existence of god (working e-cat) is used by the believer in fact as evidence. The Heaven explained by modern astronomy is not anymore the eth

Re: [Vo]:got permission to send

Here is a list of all the videos from Lane Davis on Frank's Z-Theory: http://tinyurl.com/ztheory In YouTube format, for you international folks... - Brad

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 18:28 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > > He moved his US operation to Miami. > > He has a factory in Miami? Where? I might be able to drop by on a > trip and get some clandestine photos if you can get a for sure > location.

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: > Seems I have both you and Jed to talk for creating the www.lenr-canr.org web > site. No no no. Jed created the web site and pays the bills. This is Jed's web site! He called for assistance on the initial documents and I, among many oth

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

Map here: http://www.leonardocorp1996.com/dove_eng.htm AG On 11/27/2011 12:37 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: A little digging and this comes up: 1) Karl Norwood owns a real estate company named the Norwood Group and the office property at 116 S River Rd, Bedford, NH, belongs to him. http://www.nain

[Vo]:Early help from Terry Blanton and others

Terry Blanton wrote: > I wish to thank Jed Rothwell who asked for help building the > LENR-CANR.org web site. He needed help with getting the documents in > a format that could be posted on his site. I and my secretary had > some time available and we worked on some of the documents helping >

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Seems I have both you and Jed to talk for creating the www.lenr-canr.org web site. Yes it is a treasure trove of information and yes it did help to convince me and several others that Ni-H LENR reaction are real. Well done guys. I'm sure many other do appreciate the effort and the results. AG

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Mary Yugo wrote: > Also Rossi *already* got money described as a "significant part of the > equation" from Ampenergo. The link (again at least the fifth time) is here: > > http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3179019.ece > As McKubre noted in his lecture, Ampenergo perform

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jouni Valkonen wrote: > Mary wrote: »Krivit provides details of the deal Rossi refused from Celani» > > Like it is typical for Krivit, he did not provide any details but silly, > arrogant and misinformed pseudopsychological speculations that are stated as > facts.

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

The registered address is the physical address for the Agent for the company, which can receive corporate mail on behalf of the corporation. In this case, the agent is Travis, James R, at 8 Town Farm Rd. He is an agent for multiple corporations. Lots of small companies set up a business this way--w

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > He has a factory in Miami?  Where?  I might be able to drop by on a > trip and get some clandestine photos if you can get a for sure > location. Well, whether you go to heaven or hell, you have to transfer in Atlanta. Give me a call and I'll b

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Mary Yugo wrote: > What would be the advantage to Rossi if he provided a conclusive test? >> > > The advantage would be that people would believe him. If he did not want > to be believed, why has he gone through all the demonstrations he has done > thus far with invited guests including press a

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > He moved his US operation to Miami. He has a factory in Miami? Where? I might be able to drop by on a trip and get some clandestine photos if you can get a for sure location.

Re: [Vo]:Why Rossi's E-cat is claimed to have a COP of around 6

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Charles Hope wrote: > Absolutely. And American ladies never, ever use foul language. We maintain > them as creatures of proper breeding and pleasant temperament. You really > must try one some time. They're the envy of all the world. :-) Especially the Souther

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > 6) The equipment on the website at www.leonardocorp1996.com seems to be > something from Bologna, It. > It's actually quite funny.  Supposedly, this company I never heard of before the Rossi affairs, supposdely sells an appx 500 wK generato

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 21:15 -0500, Charles Hope wrote: > On Nov 26, 2011, at 21:07, Craig Haynie wrote: > > > > > > 5) The registered address for the Leonardo Corporation is 8 Town Farm > > Rd, New Boston, NH. > > > > https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/Corp.asp?414253 > > > > And there's n

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

He moved his US operation to Miami. We have been through this. If you are really interested, I will find my posts from 10 months ago. The bulk of his work is in Italy to avoid the "evil eye of the DOE". Can anyone answer the question of why the DOE even exists? Why was it created? Anyone? Or

Re: [Vo]:Why Rossi's E-cat is claimed to have a COP of around 6

On Nov 26, 2011, at 19:52, Berke Durak wrote: . > > Actually, some women will find your statement offensive - are ladies > precious flowers unable to speak up for themselves and that should be > protected from vulgar language? Absolutely. And American ladies never, ever use foul language. We

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

There is this house. http://maps.google.com.br/maps?q=8+Town+Farm+Rd%0ANew+Boston+NH+03070&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&oe=utf8&rlz=1I7GGLL_pt-BR&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x89e233b60cc6dd6f:0x14d6fbb9387b5f2b,8+Town+Farm+Rd,+New+Boston,+NH+03070,+USA&gl=br&ei=ZJ7RTpi5DYG2tweakI2pDQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_resul

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Nov 26, 2011, at 21:07, Craig Haynie wrote: > > > 5) The registered address for the Leonardo Corporation is 8 Town Farm > Rd, New Boston, NH. > > https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/Corp.asp?414253 > > And there's nothing there. > What does this mean? There's no building at the addres

Re: [Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: > A little digging and this comes up: > This doesn't mean that anything sinister is going on. It's > just that I had thought that he was building the e-cats here. > Good investigative job. Not sinister maybe but certainly not the same result a

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > > Terry, take a moment and google and review the cases of: > > Do you live in a world of blissful innocence in which everyone is > honest and you can believe what they say simply because they say it? Dearest Mary, I have followed all these a

[Vo]:Leonardo Corporation is a Paper Company

A little digging and this comes up: 1) Karl Norwood owns a real estate company named the Norwood Group and the office property at 116 S River Rd, Bedford, NH, belongs to him. http://www.nainorwoodgroup.com/propdocs/116%20South%20River%20Road% 20Building%20A.pdf 2) Karl Norwood is president of A

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Rossi is a businessman who wants to make money. Solid testing would be awesome marketing but he doesn't want to attract attention, yet he invites AP reporters to observe tests. He doesn't need black box tests because he already has customers, and though a satisfied customer is the best marketin

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Am 27.11.2011 02:38, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Peter Heckert > wrote: Am 27.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: Terry, If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam artist

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

new fingers? G On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 27.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: > > Terry, >> If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam >> artist or a criminal of any type we would not have many around... >> > > Those people who

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Terry, take a moment and google and review the cases of: Bedini Dennis Lee Sniffex (and it's $100 million lethal successors such as the ADE651, GT200, H3 Tec, HEDD1, AL-6D) Perendev Mylow Jeff Otto Carl Tilley Aviso Any scam of the day at peswiki.com (Sterling cycles them through more than once a

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 27.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: > > Terry, >> If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam >> artist or a criminal of any type we would not have many around... >> > > Those people who buy, are not th

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Am 27.11.2011 02:28, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: Terry, If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam artist or a criminal of any type we would not have many around... Those people who buy, are not those who kill. There are easier ways for such criminals to get money th

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Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > Terry, > If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam artist > or a criminal of any type we would not have many around... Agreed. I did not specifically speak of scammers. I spoke only of an experienced detect

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > I am not everybodys dear friend. Well, consider me a dear friend unless something changes. Why not be patient and see what actually happens. Are you new to all this CF stuff? I am not and I have been yo-yo-ed more than you or any of the

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Terry, If being killed at a cost of 500 dollars would enough to stop a scam artist or a criminal of any type we would not have many around... G On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > Am 27.11.2011 02:15, schrieb Terry Blanton: > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Peter Heckert >

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Am 27.11.2011 02:15, schrieb Terry Blanton: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: He sells. Mike Brady did never make a documented successful demonstration. So, Peter, my dear yo-yo friend, can you document how many Perendev motors that Brady actually sold? I am not everybody

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: > He sells. > Mike Brady did never make a documented successful demonstration. So, Peter, my dear yo-yo friend, can you document how many Perendev motors that Brady actually sold? T

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > Terry, I'm shocked. Yes, the f-word offends me, too. I was only trying to protect your virtue. ;-) T

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Mary Yugo wrote: > The scammer > protects himself with non-disclosure agreements and with strong disclaimers > saying the work being paid for is "best effort" only and "every investment > including this one has significant risk including losing all your money". L

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

Am 27.11.2011 01:39, schrieb Giovanni Santostasi: I didn't say he necessarily is a good scam artist... ; ) he has tried and failed before... G On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Terry Blanton > wrote: On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Giovanni Santostasi mailto:

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > I didn't say he necessarily is a good scam artist... ; ) > he has tried and failed before... For all you naive people out there, you don't walk away with €2,000,000 of someone's money and remain a public entity . . . for long. I have

Re: [Vo]:Why Rossi's E-cat is claimed to have a COP of around 6

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Berke Durak wrote: > > PS. How about a ban on ad hominem attacks and unsusbtantiated > accusations or insinuations of scam or incompetence? > The possibility of Rossi's E-cat being a scam has been widely discussed all over the internet and is a valid issue when

Re: [Vo]:Krivit provides details of deal Celani offered Rossi and Rossi's rejection of it

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Giovanni Santostasi > wrote: > > > What Mary is describing is the only rational course of action. What > Rossi is > > doing is what a scam artist would do > > And, in your opinion, how does this scam artist

Re: [Vo]:got permission to send

These videos are not available outside USA and Japan. I cannot watch them. 2011/11/26 > > For those of you who do not understand my paper or why I believe it > is important, I recommend these two videos. > > > http://www.hulu.com/watch/135528/milestones-in-science-and-engineering-max-planck-and-

Re: [Vo]:got permission to send

For those of you who do not understand my paper or why I believe it is important, I recommend these two videos. http://www.hulu.com/watch/135528/milestones-in-science-and-engineering-max-planck-and-quantum-physics#s-p2-sr-i0 http://www.hulu.com/watch/135537/milestones-in-science-and-engin

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