Dave,

I don't have time for this kind of discussion now. I am only about half way through my E-cat analysis, so I see no point in discussing that. Results will be available if and when I finish writing them. I haven't even finished my photographic analysis.

It seems to me a waste of time to consider these kinds of questions when no one knows what the geometry of the device actually is. Also a waste of time given the potentially order of magnitude wrong calorimetry.

For that matter, I am again thinking discussion of Rossi at all is a complete waste of time. As Jed has said, given Rossi's behavior, he deosn't deserve all the time spent on him by the CF community. One of the best things I did was to ignore discussion of him for a while.

I have let my own work go too long.



On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:04 PM, David Roberson wrote:

Horace, I have suggested that your FEA program would be able to demonstrate the time domain operation of the scam ECATs. I assumed that you have device temperature as a function of x,y,z and t so that we can observe the expected operation of the ECATs. Could you confirm that this is true? As you are aware, several of our members are suggesting that the power output is changing far to fast to be real and I am hoping you can tell us what your model predicts.


Once you assume water access to the 30x30x30 cm wide flanged bolted closed box said to contain the 20x20x1 cm reactor(s) is controlled by current to normally open water valves, current tapped from the heater power and/or freq. gen. power, you can see much faster thermal spikes depending on any damping material between the reactor(s) and the heat storing slabs. The speed of the response depends on where the internal water paths are located and the nature of the material inside the 30x30x30 cm interior box.



It is much to difficult to solve this type of partial differential equation by gut feelings.

I suggest you obtain some FEA software and see what you find according to your concepts of the device geometry.


If you do not have temperature as a function of x,y,z,t then what does the FEA program calculate?

Thanks,

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Heckert <peter.heck...@arcor.de>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 3:32 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Large Temperature Increase of Core Not Required for 6 to 1 Output Delta

Am 26.11.2011 21:15, schrieb Mary Yugo:



On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:11 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Horace hibernates this time of year.

Speaking about hibernation, there could be a contest to make the best caption for this image:

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2011/11/ cold_fusion_is_it_possible_is/Focardi_Rossi_apparatoBN- thumb-500x375-70854.jpeg

Best I've seen so far (on the Moletrap forum, by "Alsetolokin"):

"I dunno, Andrea, why is it so cold in here? Maybe you should try banging on the pipes -- it sometimes works in my building."
;-)


Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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