Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

>"There are no short opportunities either for this kind of pump and dump." > >Read that sentence over to yourself a dozen times or so.   Eventually you'll >realize you just logically said A & !A. Jones analysis is essentially correct. It's very difficult to short Canadian pump and dump stocks.

Re: [Vo]:Suggestions for a more effective demonstration

one problem I expect is lack of trust in tha pump. it should be thirdd party, I mean provided by mega-skeptics, not by accomplice like any commercial or open-mind company or institution like NASA or Elforsk. the worst problem is not managing experimental setup but pathologic denial. about steam,

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

Trying to be positive I would say that is a Zeppelin failure (Until the last failure, Zeppelin was saying that he was learning only from his failures... and by the way we have a Zeppelin today over paris)). Defkalion tried to seduce ICCF18, and LENR scientists. If you add Rob's comments of patent

[Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

My (Daniel's comment) I cannot subscribe to all that is being written, specially the reliability issue at the end. But as far as I can see, this is a rational attitude that most of this forum hasn't displayed. I've been privately discussing the report, made by Yeong Kim at ICCF-1

RE: [Vo]:Suggestions for a more effective demonstration

The reason I have a "spa in a box" is because of its size. You need a fairly large volume to rule out internal chemical storage. Here are ROUGH order of magnitude numbers. My point is you need something >100 gallons or so for a typical system. Yes, I have 2 digit metric numbers but I don'

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

Eric Walker wrote: > > We're very fickle, here. Once some solid information comes from defkalion > (e.g., via a reliable third party such as National Instruments), we'll all > be saying we believed them all along. > Darn right we will! Not only that, some of us will modestly accept credit for D

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Eric Walker wrote: > >> >> We're very fickle, here. Once some solid information comes from >> defkalion (e.g., via a reliable third party such as National Instruments), >> we'll all be saying we believed them all along. >> > > Darn right we

Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered

LENR does NOT contradict current theory. LENR is a different phenomenon from hot fusion. Consequently the theory applied to hot fusion cannot be applied too cold fusion. We can only say that a piece of the puzzle is missing - nothing more. Ed On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Kevin O'Malley wro

RE: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

You are correct AF. There is little way for any outside investor to benefit from a DGT stock offering - no matter what they have... and I think that they do have a valid thermal anomaly in the early stages of development. It will be a laugh to see how many billions of shares they have available.

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

How can you possibly know these things? 2013/8/13 Jones Beene > DGT are a minimum of three years from a commercial product and much longer > from mass production. They have no valid patent. Their process seems to > infringe on half a dozen patent applications, which have preceded them. -- Dan

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

Good comment, Jones. I totally agree with you. Unfortunately, the well was poisoned from the start by the US patent office refusal to accept ANY patent for many years and the DOE panel by its one sided conclusion, both of which created a legal situation that doomed any serious study of CF.

Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered

Kevin O'Malley wrote: Controlled Hot-Fusion has generated more energy for longer sustained > periods. > Until a few years ago the PPPL held the world record. 10 MW for about 0.6 s. (6 MJ). I think some other Tokamak topped that by a wide margin, but I am not sure. ***The average cold fusion ex

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

This is the link for the original post. Comments are welcome! http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/message/584 -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

James, your comment might be right, but I suggest we have a bigger problem. Since patent protection for the basic process is not possible, a patent for the best application is the only protection. This is similar to the situation in mature technologies. However, a great deal of money will

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

Perhaps it is the winning path for this technology but for his investors? I have a bit of experience with international patent law, having paid for a rocket engine patent 's international filing. In my situation, there was no option but to obtain a paten

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > You are correct AF. There is little way for any outside investor to benefit > from a DGT stock offering - no matter what they have... and I think that > they do have a valid thermal anomaly in the early stages of development. > Bt. Wrong

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

If we assume mass is converted into energy, heat in this case, then why would transmutations go in the directions of increased mass? If Rossi is indicating Copper and Ni62 are key ingrediences, would Copper not be the starting point of creating Ni62 from Copper isotopic transmutations, or the litt

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

We can assume that there is a significant amount of randomness in the LENR process that disrupts the nucleus. Another factor that adds to the unpredictability of the transmutation results is the added elements other than nickel in the reactor chamber that find their way into the reaction zone. D

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

Teslaalset, you asked a simple and reasonable question and you deserve an understandable answer. The reaction being claimed is Ni + p = Cu with a proton being added to a Nickel isotope that results in the isotope of copper having the same number of neutrons. Ni + p has greater mass than do

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

We have a conflation of issues getting in the way of communication: First, I hope my introduction of the jurisdictional arbitrage tactic has laid to rest the notion that the US patent office's criminal conspiracy is blocking, even though its influence may pervade the much if not most of the world,

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Hi folks! One more comment from Abd. You are welcome to go there and comment!: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/message/593 There has been extensive commentary on Vortex-l about the magnetic anomaly, in a thread started by Peter Gluck. >http://w

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

Let me see if I can be clearer. I believe the LENR situation is not like any other. First of all, the basic explanation is not accepted. In contrast, the basic explanation is accepted about other technologies. This means that the patent office will not grant a patent based on the basic mech

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

OK, so in addition to the conflation of "the [criminally conspiratorial US --JAB] patent office" with *any reasonable patent office*, we have the conflation of research with development. Clearly, in the context of patent funding, discussion of research funding must be separated from discussion of

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

So that we are clear, James, research is a term used to describe the investigation of anything. The term research can be used to develop an application or to seek commercial use, all of which can be described as requiring research. The term "basic research" is generally used to describe you

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

*Axil, the question is, Exactly what behavior did the experiment >show?. DGE claims to have measured a magnetic FIELD of 1.6 T. Such >an intense magnetic field cannot form under the circumstances. >Therefore, they misinterpreted the behavior. The problem is to >discover just what they actually obse

Re: [Vo]:Norman D. Cook @ ICCF18: Isotope shifts in LENR

Thanks Axil, Edmund. That helps understanding. I urgently need to study some basic quantum mechanics. >> >> > >

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Daniel, Is it worth considering the possibility that superoscillations or "rogue waves" are occurring? It's possible to generate extremely large transient signal peaks and steep slopes, using band-limited signals - even when all of the components are low-frequency, low-amplitude sinusoids. (http:

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Axil Axil wrote: > If an experimental result does not fit into their conceptual framework, > the tendency is to ignore the troublesome concept as a result of some > screw-up or another, rather than readjust the concept to fit the > experimental data. > I assume this is about the intense magnetic

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Super oscillations are produced when fano resonance converts infrared EMF into a soliton EMF singularity within the hot spot that develops between the nanowires of the Nickel micro particles. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering-gallery_wave On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM, wrote: > Da

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

*I think this is more a case where the result does not fit in with conventional, textbook physics and engineering. * In nanoplasmonics, Hot Spots have be experimentally verified to produce solitons with a EMF power density of 100 terawatts per cm2 before the sensors blew out. Not finding this beh

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

There is no harm in ignoring results temporarily. There is a huge difference between ignoring a result and attacking it. Benign neglect is okay. Ignoring the results until you assimilate enough applicable knowledge to understand it. But how long does it take for the observer to understand what ne

Re: [Vo]:The great thing about Defkalion going public starting Nov 1st

An idea came to me ? If patent were deposited early 2012, when will they be publicated, even if pending ? if one company have good patent which get public, what should they do ? what could they do ? what should they be afraid of? what should they do so ? who claimed to have filed patents in that

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

In Kim's ICCF 18 paper. there are two references to nanoplasmonic papers [16,17]. Also, DGT has be famisly quoted as stating that LENR should stand for nanoplasmonics: see http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ManningIE110.pdf However, readers who are aware of nanoplasmonics—a new area of s

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > A recent breakthrough > > resulted in a change; instead of the “N” standing for nuclear, > > it now stands for nanoplasmonics. It stands for 'nuclei'. http://defkalion-energy.com/technology/

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Axil Axil wrote: *I think this is more a case where the result does not fit in with > conventional, textbook physics and engineering. * > > In nanoplasmonics, Hot Spots have be experimentally verified to produce > solitons with a EMF power density of 100 terawatts per cm2 before the > sensors ble

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

The strength of the magnetic field is a “smoking gun” for soliton production. What remains to be determined is what exact nature of the EMF produced by the soliton. And is this EMF responsible for the disintegration of the nucleus. Kim thinks it is the electrostatic field. I think it is the anap

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote: The strength of the magnetic field is a “smoking gun” for soliton production. It is a smoking gun if the claim is real. But what if the claim is not real? What if we discover it is actually based on an error. What will you say then? How much

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Rossi mentioned extreme EMF behavior coming out of his reactor. Two like systems reporting the same type of EMF anomaly looks like the real thing to me. If you are really interest in zeroing in on the causation of LENR, the also research Rossi's EMF claims. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Edmun

Re: [Vo]:Kiplinger Letter, July 26, 2013 - Advances in Desalination Technology is coming

In reply to OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson's message of Sat, 27 Jul 2013 08:55:25 -0500: Hi, [snip] Since 2/3 of the energy in coal used in electric power plants ends up as low grade heat, it should be possible to use some of that in a desalination plant adjacent to existing power plants. >

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

But exactly what is the anomaly? DGT reports a magnetic field with 1.6 T. Rossi reports RF radiation. Neither source gives any actual data. I would not be surprised to see RF radiation. I would be surprised to see a 1.6 T magnetic field. The devil is in the details. Using a collection of

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and their SCADA function. The real data reported in the ICCF-18 paper is not hard to interpret.. 1.6 tesla at 20 Cms. What could be clearer than that, unless you just don't want to believe it, that is. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:27

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Axil, To boil it down, if you say it is a singularity emitting emf radiation over a broad spectrum I agree with that synopsis On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Axil Axil wrote: > Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and > their SCADA function. > > The real data reported i

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Axil Axil wrote: Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and their SCADA function. Yes, which indicates that their claim for a 1.6 T magnetic field resulted from a misreading of the Gauss meter, perhaps because the meter was influenc

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

http://ecatreport.com/andrearossi/on-rossis-fascinating-emf-discovery Andrea Rossi recently stated on his blog Journal of Nuclear Physics that he is currently taking the road to circumventing the Carnot Cycle. The Italian inventor posted that direct EMF from the reactor core. EMF or Electromotive

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

As Jed has suggested up-thread, you should suspend all current theory making until you understand better what EMF brings to the LENR table. I also suggest that you study Nanoplasmonics as a modern day extension of the pioneering work of Pons and Fleischman. This field is currently the enthusiastica

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Unless we understand the meaning of the words being used, nothing will make sense. To make electric power, a voltage has to be created between two locations so that a current can be made to flow. The amount of power created is equal to the current times the voltage. Many ways exist to crea

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

If you are talking to me, a singularity is where I was a year ago as I have listened to your range of theories. You also appear to be embracing string theory now and dismissed it a year ago. I suggest you stop what you are doing and go back and read up on M theory while we are throwing out sugges

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

People keep saying "EMF" in the context of talking about a magnetic field. Aside from the difference being generally crucial, the energy in a magnetic field is unavailable if it is unchanging. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:36 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > If you are talking to me, a singularity is wh

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

For any polariton based soliton, it exists for some 10s of picoseconds only. It seems to me that this is a rapidly changing magnetic field. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM, James Bowery wrote: > People keep saying "EMF" in the context of talking about a magnetic field. > Aside from the differe

[Vo]:Direct energy conversion in the Ni/H reactor.

It might be possible to gain research information on and harvest pulsed electrical power from the energy contained in polariton plasmoids formed in solitons using 0D transistors inside the Ni/H reactor. Remember that the cavitation bubble is similar to the soliton in its mechanisms and energy conte

Re: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

I'm not so sure. I think the main discovery was set out sometime back in my paper, here [1], with a little help from the Internet [2]. Eric [1] http://apps.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/scicache/399/scimakelatex.51556.Eric+Walker.html [2] http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ (Check it out -- it's pretty cool w

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Somewhere in a previous post I saw DGT's spark pulse numbers of 24 kV at 22 mA peak with a rep rate in the kHz range. This is over 500W of pulse power. The wires leading to the spark plugs are of significant size and will make good radiators. Normal CDI type of spark pulsers have nanosecond rise ti

Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.

Bob Higgins wrote: > A high frequency spectrum analyzer is needed to evaluate the level and > frequency extent of the possible RF interference. I cannot imagine trying > to make 24b ADC measurements for accurate thermocouple readings in the > presence of these pulses. > And THAT is why you shou

RE: [Vo]:just published -with permission- a paper about DEFKALION

LOL. I smell an Ig Nobel Prize in the making… http://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/ Whew… the fumes are overwhelming. Pass me one of Dr Bodnar’s protective face masks please… and Do NOT go in there … From: Eric Walker I'm not so sure. I think the main discovery was set o

Re: [Vo]:Direct energy conversion in the Ni/H reactor.

My only problem with "plasmoid" is that "oid" means "kinda sorta" and does not really explain what a "plasmoid" is. They are found in the solar wind, in comet tails and the Earth's magnetic tail. We get to go through ISON's tail in January 2014 so maybe we will get a good dose. The word *plasmoi