Mark--
A simple definition of a metastable nuclear isomer and how they can be created
is warranted to further the understanding of your comments.
As I understand, an isomer is merely a nuclear energy state above the ground
state for any given nucleus. Such energy states I think can be spin
Does it make sense?
Somewhat, however, my point is that the nuclear isomer seems to be a
possible explanation as to why we don't see gammas and neutrons (and dead
grad students). some of the mechanisms on the Wikipedia page explain how the
energy is channeled to other 'things' instead of the
About Nelson report, the answer I have is that the report is genuine, but
that it is preliminary.
The test done seems to be the appetizer for a real test like the one
Elforsk organized for E-cat. The main-course never get organized, for
unknown reason that may be linked to the cost of such test,
one of my stupid plumber ideas, is to add a tank after the flowmeter to
avoid problem with back pressure...
a similar solution in electricity is to use a 3rd party online UPS to
reconditionate AC.
other ideas is to use old-tech instruments including old electric counters,
water counters...
If you see greentech, or Internet companies, it is not so different.
the problem is that it is much more tolerated and ignored for mainstream
and fashion technologies than for lenr.
even good startup with good technologies crash most of the time
2014-05-14 6:26 GMT+02:00 Eric Walker
I would not write them off too quickly.
They had NASA over (not formally confirmed I believe) and NASA seems to be
quite convinced LENR has revived in a serious way. Maybe Rossi was visited
too.
Defkalion's weak point is bad engineering.
This can be resolved.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:29 AM,
The Gamberale report has a good dosis of ignorance in it (not fully degassed
test with Argon give excess heat due to residual hydrogen) and also too
vivid fantasy- see the results of the tests of 22 and 23 July step by step
plus the Protocol published by DGT 2 days before he test. See also what
This is somewhat similar to the lochon explanation: Lochon Catalyzed D-D
Fusion in Deuterated Palladium in the Solid State by Sinha and Meulenberg
Lochons are hypothesized to be electron pairs which can form on a deuteron
to give D- (which is a bosonic ion) in Palladium Deuteride. Supposedly,
Could a relativistic component as suggested by Naudts possibly
disguise/dilate/down convert Bremsstahlung?
_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:36 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE:
Fran,
The good-news bad-news problem with down-conversion of x-rays, as well as
the other hypotheses for the absence of high energy gamma radiation,
including that of Hagelstein, is that yes, they could possibly operate some
of the time, or even most of the time. The mechanism may sound logical,
Jones--
As I have suggested in the past, spin coupling of nucleons with electrons or
other nucleons may not involve the gammas and x-rays you fear must occur in
nuclear transitions. High isomeric spin states can involve high energies
above a ground energy state of a nucleus. Transitions
Who is Gamberale, and why should his words be trusted?
There seems to be a way of entering into the Ni/H reactor vender
marketplace that has developed and that Gamberale has decided to take
advantage of.
It all starts with Rossi and Piantelli. Rossi got his start in the NI/H
reactor development
Hi Bob,
I agree that spin coupling is possible, even likely. However, what is
missing from the discussion is the issue of exclusivity. How does spin
coupling suddenly become the only route to shed energy, especially when it
never was more than a minor route in standard physics?
In short, just
The most despicable kind!
2014-05-14 12:39 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com:
And who are these venders he will be working with?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Who is Gamberale, and why should his words be trusted?
It does not matter who he is. We do not need to trust his words. His
conclusions about the flow rate were independently confirmed by people from
NI and by others. Hadjichristos himself admitted there was
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
The Gamberale report has a good dosis of ignorance in it (not fully degassed
test with Argon give excess heat due to residual hydrogen) . . .
You can get the same result with a joule heater. They shut off the inlet
valve completely, making the flow rate
Anybody who tries to make a start in the LENR business deserves support
form LENR advocates for even trying to succeed this difficult field.
Jed Rothwell: You and Kim hurt your own reputations when you go out on a
limb supporting Defkalion.
This situation is reversed for you and more
If the energy levels between isomers are small enough there may be a
more soft radiation.
It may exist a sett of un known isomers of He4, He3, T and maybe D and
Li6.
If hydrogen nucleus come together (p+D, D+D, p+T, D+T, T+T) through a
mechanisms like those
proposed by Hagelstein or by Storms
Its pretty clear that Jed is attempting to hold DGT to the same standard as
Rossi et al. Of course, the bar set by Rossi et al in terms of disclosure
is pretty low -- so I can see his frustration with DGT as reasonable.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Anybody who tries to make a start in the LENR business deserves support
form LENR advocates for even trying to succeed this difficult field.
I do not think we should support a company that has never published any
data, and that cannot measure the difference
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Its pretty clear that Jed is attempting to hold DGT to the same standard as
Rossi et al. Of course, the bar set by Rossi et al in terms of disclosure
is pretty low -- so I can see his frustration with DGT as reasonable.
Rossi's has set the disclosure
For people in Atlanta:
There will be an airshow and open house this Saturday, featuring kids
getting mustard on their shirts. That's what I go to see. Seen one airshow,
seen 'em all.
Between 9 and 12 in the morning they will offer joyrides in airplanes or
helicopters for $40. I don't know if
-Original Message-
From: torulf.gr...@bredband.net
If the energy levels between isomers are small enough there may be a more
soft radiation. It may exist a set of unknown isomers of He4, He3 ...For
this isomers there must exist a huge number of lower energy stage and a
relative
Of course it is kudos to Jed. Here some facts as I understand them:
1. I do not think Jed became a spokes person FOR DGT as they did not pay
him as agreed. Seldom can you win support by mistreating people. I think
that without knowing Jed (except from this sight) I can determine that he
would not
They should have published a retraction on their web site saying: The
ICCF18 demonstration was invalid because the flow rate was measured
incorrectly. We apologize for the mistake. If they had done that, every
expert in this field would forgive them, as would I.
I support that position.
Shit
Storms theory may get into this?
On Wed, 14 May 2014 13:45:26 -0700, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
wrote:
-Original Message-
From: torulf.gr...@bredband.net
If the energy levels between isomers are small enough there may be a more
soft radiation. It may exist a set of unknown
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 14 May 2014 06:35:38 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Problem is - the alpha is slow and the electrons are very fast - so that
with this and other forms of IC, the ejected electron(s) is extremely
energetic and the bremsstrahlung from it would be just as obvious as
Discount hamburgers at the Breakwind Cafe? :-)
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
For people in Atlanta:
There will be an airshow and open house this Saturday, featuring kids
getting mustard on their shirts. That's what I go to see. Seen one airshow,
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 14 May 2014 09:04:35 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
In short, just like with the Hagelstein hypothesis, we are not dealing just
with merely an alternative route to shed high energy - but instead - to an
exclusive alternative.
As I see it, the only way any
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Discount hamburgers at the Breakwind Cafe? :-)
Hey, hey, hey. *Down*wind. Downwind Restaurant and Lounge, if you please.
The place has class. Ambiance. And Greek food. I once encountered Whitney
Houston there. She was high as a kite and a real jerk.
-
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 14 May 2014 09:04:35 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
Since nature prefers the simplest way - which is via radiation, any mention
of exclusivity presents an almost insurmountable problem, especially if
there is no model in standard nuclear physics.
Actually nature has
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote:
Of course it is kudos to Jed.
Malarkey! Jed has not done anything but what we all should do and
that is be pragmatic. Not only has DGT failed to present any valid
data, but they have lied through their teeth for
In reply to MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Tue, 13 May 2014 22:25:37 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
If you go back through the archives, you will see that I have mentioned a
modified form of IC frequently in connection with Hydrino fusion.
However, as Jones pointed out, it does have the problem of producing
What was the greatest invention of the industrial revolution? Hans
Rosling makes the case for the washing machine. With newly designed
graphics from Gapminder, Rosling shows us the magic that pops up when
economic growth and electricity turn a boring wash day into an intellectual
day of reading.
I vividly recall the forum BS. Many questions were asked concerning module
testing which they insisted was happening within their lab. Looking back now
I realize that they were shamelessly lying.
MY was hard on them in the forum and now I apologize to him/her for thinking
that he was out of
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, hey, hey. Downwind. Downwind Restaurant and Lounge, if you please. The
place has class. Ambiance. And Greek food. I once encountered Whitney
Houston there. She was high as a kite and a real jerk.
With a sad
Much depends upon how the reaction energy is stored within the nucleus. Does
anyone recall seeing good evidence that it is stored as spin energy of the
nucleons? Large nuclei such as nickel likely have much of the energy hidden
within the distribution of the protons and neutrons that can take
Suppose that I had a photo in which Kim was testing a reactor in DGT. Would
that make Jed's source untruthful?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
-Original Message-
From: mix...@bigpond.com
In short, just like with the Hagelstein hypothesis, we are not dealing with
merely an alternative route to shed high energy - but instead - to an
exclusive alternative
As I see it, the only way any alternative can be exclusive is if the
Do you?
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Suppose that I had a photo in which Kim was testing a reactor in DGT.
Would that make Jed's source untruthful?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
My wife, sometimes to make a point, says: Everybody tells me that, and I
ask her who are those people. She answers: My mother and my sister.
2014-05-14 19:40 GMT-03:00 Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com:
Do you?
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
Suppose
Jones--
Most excitation of Nuclei to determine isomeric states has been via neutron
activation or proton excitation using reactors for neutrons or accelerators
for protons. Not much has been via electromagnetic excitation. The reason
has been that it is difficult to design and build
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
I once encountered Whitney
Houston there. She was high as a kite and a real jerk.
With a sad ending.
She was making a commotion, laughing and pounding the floor. I had no idea
who she was. I glared at her and said to pilot at the next table, what a
-Original Message-
From: Bob Cook
Most excitation of Nuclei to determine isomeric states has been via
neutron activation or proton excitation using reactors for neutrons or
accelerators for protons. Not much has been via electromagnetic excitation.
Yes, that is a good point, but not
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Suppose that I had a photo in which Kim was testing a reactor in DGT.
Would that make Jed's source untruthful?
It would probably make my sources misinformed, rather than untruthful.
- Jed
Would love to attend if I was in the area...
Did volunteer work at the Planes-of-Fame air museum in Chino, Calif. during my
last year in college... was stripping the paint from a P-38 landing-gear door
when Rick Brickert said,
Mark, you been up in the '51 yet?
No...
Let's go for a ride!
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