Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 10:04 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: As you can tell from my questions and comments I have a hard time understanding how an electron can become in effect heavier in an atom because of its circulation around a point with no evidence about the stability of

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Axil Axil
An electron becomes heavier when it is localized( bound ) by a defect in the lattice like a hole or a bump. This is called Anderson localization. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_localization On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Eric-- What is the

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Bob, IMHO the inertial frame is not generated by the electron or the nucleus but rather the “umbrella” of surrounding geometry that effects the space-time that this gas atom happens to be randomly migrating thru..hence it is a transitory state that locally the gas atom is unaware of.. according

Re: [Vo]:new Blog publication

2014-08-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Thornros, Thank you- till now only you due to your technology- management-leadership have contributed with an addition to the Probletence in LENR paper. You already have launched interesting and useful ideas about use of ab broad inter-disciplinar approach in LENR development - and I found

Re: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5

2014-08-14 Thread Jack Cole
Hi Jones, I was looking into the hydrostik in more detail. It does not appear to be based on LaNi5, but rather TiMn2. http://www.udomi.com/downloads/UserManualHydrostikv8.pdf Would this affect your thoughts on the possible experiment you suggested? Best, Jack On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:34

[Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jones Beene
Eric, In posts yesterday you have raised a number of good observations - and there is a bit more information floating around cyberspace this week about the putative single Dirac (KG) ground state, which can refine the idea of a stable fractional state for LENR, which is also the identical state

RE: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5

2014-08-14 Thread Jones Beene
Jack, Good find. It appears they have switched to TiMn2. In the earlier literature, the penta-nickel alloy was mentioned. That would seem to change expectations. It could still be worth the effort to try this in a low powered experiment - since Cravens is getting good results using

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Bob Cook
Eric and Fran-- Thanks for those clariifications. Bob Sent from Windows Mail From: Roarty, Francis X Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎14‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎25‎ ‎AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Bob, IMHO the inertial frame is not generated by the electron or the nucleus but rather the

[Vo]:magnetism produces virtual photons.

2014-08-14 Thread Axil Axil
A magnetic field increases the rate of virtual photon production in a stationary frame because magnetism is a relativistic manifestation of charge as seen moving in the relativistic reference frame. A strong magnetic field will be produced by a large ensemble of charge carriers who will produce a

[Vo]:charge beaming

2014-08-14 Thread Axil Axil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-ray_burst One of the energy amplification mechanisms found in LENR is energy beaming. Like a gamma ray burst where an intense pulse of energy can be seen from a far corner clear across the other side of the universe, a soliton can focus charge into a tight

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jones Beene
FWIW ... if the dark matter state of hydrogen, which is at the deep ground state known as the DDL can be identified as a magnetic monopole then every atom of dark matter would be mutually repulsed by every other, and gravitational attraction would presumably be overwhelmed by magnetic repulsion,

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jones Beene
Finally found the citation for the errors in the Rice/Kim rejection of DDL. As we know, the editors of Fusion Technology are still living in the dark ages wrt to free flow of information in cyberspace... http://www.ans.org/pubs/journals/download/a_30742 In short, there is a better than average

[Vo]:TechCrunch: Y Combinator And Mithril Invest In Helion, A Nuclear Fusion Startup

2014-08-14 Thread Eric Walker
See: http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/14/y-combinator-and-mithril-invest-in-helion-a-nuclear-fusion-startup/ Some points to mention: - Three years for them to get things going is considered a long time (cf. BLP). - They do not appear to be using d+t, and instead are using just

Re: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5

2014-08-14 Thread Jack Cole
Thanks Jones. Regarding Mills and titanium fuel. Anyone have a sense the degree to which he has specially prepared the particles with water? I'm wondering about a relatively low cost replication attempt with a cheap spot welder.

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:16:43 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:05 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: However neither exist when an electron is freed from an atom, hence free electrons have no spin, and thus spin is not an intrinsic property of the

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:13:49 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Why wouldn't the extra energy be lost again when the electron eventually returns to a higher orbital? (Since it would have to escape the strong force

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Bob Cook
Jones- Your nice ability to instantly redirect ideas is well appreciated. The dots on the DDL are coming together. I agree it is time to leave the 11M from investors heading. Rice/Kim errors were math errors in their logic regarding the DDL state? The folks (Maly and Vavra) that

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Analog Fan
Raising another $11m is an impressive milestone for BLP. But we've seen this before - every few years BLP makes big claims, puts on a demo, does a press release, raises money and then vanishes for a few years until more money is needed. I do wonder how much due diligence these investors did?

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jojo Iznart
Jones, Forgive the naive question, but I am really not informed in this; but what is the reason why this fractional state is NOT a hydrino. Seems like it is a fractional state like a hydrino. Is it just refusal to give credence to the terms used by Mills; or is there a mathematical and

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Jojo Iznart Forgive the naive question, but I am really not informed in this; but what is the reason why this fractional state is NOT a hydrino. Seems like it is a fractional state like a hydrino. Yes, the hydinoT is also a fractional state, but Mills does

RE: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Cook Jones, do you know what they said about the possible reactions in the ref 7 document noted above? Their comments may be of interest to LENR as well as dark matter. Basically they said they could not confirm anything more than a modest thermal anomaly, no gammas or

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Jojo Iznart
Thanks for the clarification my friend, But can any of the Mills hydrino fractional state (fractional Rydberg multiple) correspond to 3.7kev? And can this explain the extent of anomalous heat in the hotcat? It seems it can't. Am I correct in this? Jojo - Original Message -

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Jojo Iznart
Why would you assume that the investors would have done lousy due diligence? Why is it that we always believe that we understand more than the investors who would have been up close and personal with the people and scientists at BLP and have seen the technologies and prototypes more closely? Why

[Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From BLP's What's New link: http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new/ 8/13/14 Blacklight vigorously disputes the allegations of fraud by certain anonymous Wikipedia editors, and has announced intentions to proceed legally against individuals and entities that assert these false

Re: [Vo]:LENR - dark mater - DDL connection

2014-08-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: 7. J. A. MALY and J. VAVRA, Electron Transitions on Deep Dirac Levels II, Fusion Technol, 27, 59 (1995). Jones, do you know what they said about the possible reactions in the ref 7 document noted above? Their comments

Re: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Terry Blanton
We now know where part of the $11M will go. :-) On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: From BLP's What's New link: http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new/ *8/13/14* *Blacklight vigorously disputes the allegations of

Re: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Craig Haynie
It sounds kind of like Greg Watson. They can put all this to rest with a simple, repeatable, defined, open demonstration. Craig On 08/14/2014 09:46 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: From BLP's What's New link: http://www.blacklightpower.com/whats-new/ *8/13/14* **

Re: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Jojo Iznart
Good for them. Someone needs to teach these wikinazis a thing or two about objectivity. Is there still any doubt that wikipedia is a sham pretending to be a source of authoritative information? Jojo - Original Message - From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson To:

RE: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Additional personal speculations: * BLP is feeling embolden by the recent June and July SunCell demonstrations. While many skeptics continue to express a number of legitimate doubts... apparently BLP has none. * BLP has initiated this latest legal action because they believe they will soon

RE: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Terry sez: We now know where part of the $11M will go. :-) True. BLP had originally hoped to secure 10M, but they ended up with 11M. This suggest to me that BLP's investors must really like what they have been seeing lately. What to do with an extra M! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: * BLP is feeling embolden by the recent June and July SunCell demonstrations. While many skeptics continue to express a number of legitimate doubts... apparently BLP has none. I respect your

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:42 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: A metal is an environment where lots of charged bodies are closely packed together. I don't think an electron in such an environment can be truly seen as free. I.e. perhaps electrons in the conduction band actually migrate from one

Re: [Vo]:Andy the Grump is now in BLP's crosshairs

2014-08-14 Thread Kevin O'Malley
I recall there were some similar noises being made by Rossi towards Wikipedia when he was flush with cash. Wikipedia quickly backtracked. On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson

Re: [Vo]:BLP picks up another 11 M from investors

2014-08-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hello Jojo, Although you will not licences your machine:). I must say that your statement about BLP and a sad envy, sometimes shining through here at vortex, has my 100% support. Spot on. On Aug 14, 2014 6:42 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you assume that the investors