[Vo]:Andrea Rossi reactor, 32 day run in independent lab in Switzerland, very high excess heat, shifted Ni and Li isotopes, no nuclear radiations, huge mystery, Giuseppe Levi team 53 page report --

2014-10-10 Thread Rich Murray
Andrea Rossi reactor, 32 day run in independent lab in Switzerland, very high excess heat, shifted Ni and Li isotopes, no nuclear radiations, huge mystery, Giuseppe Levi team 53 page report -- flaws...:Rich Murray 2014.10.10 http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2014/10/andrea-rossi-reactor-32-day-run-in.ht

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
It could just as well be that the resistive wires are what are bright and the gaps between them are where it gets darker. If this were the case, won't there be a double dark shadow cast on either side of the wire with the bright wire in between. On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Eric Walker wrote

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: The "shadows" of the wires in figs 12 are problematic ... but we don't have > enough information to figure out if they are actually the result of light, > or if they represent zones of different thermal conductivity, as in the > first independ

Re: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
When the reactor first starts up, all the particles have a tubercle surface. The picture of the particles with a tubercle surface look like a hydrogen atom can penetrate deeply into the tubercle network close to the center of the particle. This type of particle looks like it is mostly surface and n

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Brad Lowe wrote: If it were a clear COP of 3, it should be pretty easy to "heat a tub of > water" or do some kind of obvious work. > This is the most frustrating part of following the E-Cat story. In several years of watching, I have yet to see unequivocal calo

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:02:00 +1100: Hi, [snip] >Hi, > >17O & 18O are also potential neutron donors, interesting both because there is >so much Oxygen, and the central charge on Oxygen is only 8. (The lower the >central charge, the closer the nuclei can get,

RE: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction appear to be absent

2014-10-10 Thread Robert Ellefson
>On Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:45 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Robert Ellefson wrote: > > >Given that the ash sample was taken at an arbitrarily-defined time point ... > >then I believe > >this indicates that the reaction is a cyclic one, which decays to the > >me

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
Hi, 17O & 18O are also potential neutron donors, interesting both because there is so much Oxygen, and the central charge on Oxygen is only 8. (The lower the central charge, the closer the nuclei can get, which strongly affects the chances of a tunneling reaction occurring.) Regards, Robin van Sp

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I discount Goat's hypothesis for the following reasons: As shown in figure 10 they split the reactor IR camera image into 10 segments plus the ends. They record the temperature for each segment. As shown in the photograph, some segments were incandescent and others were not. If incandescent segmen

Re: [Vo]:Table 1 Appendix 3

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Jones Beene wrote: This analysis is open to interpretation of course, since it is based on > ratios and they state that various particles vary from place to place. It would be risky to try to compare specific counts of specific isotopes on different grains, befo

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Axil Axil wrote: At 1400C all atoms are either ionized or in dipole vibrations. There is an > electron plasma formed from which polaritons are then formed from electron > shielded infrared photons, > Sometimes I wonder whether there's a correlation between the q

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread leaking pen
the alumina is outside the resistors and the reactor. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Rossi would nave used alumina that is transparent to infrared in his > reactor design because he wants the heat from his primary heater that is > imbedded in the alumina to get to the nickel

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 07:42 PM 10/10/2014, you wrote: Rossi would nave used alumina that is transparent to infrared in his reactor design because he wants the heat from his primary heater that is imbedded in the alumina to get to the nickel powder. An infrared insulator is not a good reactor design. The report

[Vo]:photon blockade

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
When the gamma ray photon hits the SPP condensate the SPPs blockade the gamma ray from a frequency above that that exists globally in the condensate. See http://arxiv.org/pdf/1206.0944v2.pdf The quantum theory of photodetection and optical coherence as originally formulated by Glauber [1] is ce

Re: [Vo]:another Law breaker?

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
Another related thought experiment Consider the focusing of sunlight by a simple parabolic reflector. Why doesn't that constitute a violation of the 2nd law of thermodynamics which (according to one of the many equivalents formulations) says heat cannot flow from a cold to hot region without an in

Re: [Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:46:43 -0400: Hi, [snip] >There is lots of indicators over many systems that spin zero diprotons are >involved in the initial fusion reaction. No one thinks that 4He is involved >in the fusion reaction in LENR. I wasn't talking about fusion re

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi would nave used alumina that is transparent to infrared in his reactor design because he wants the heat from his primary heater that is imbedded in the alumina to get to the nickel powder. An infrared insulator is not good reactor design. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM, leaking pen wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Table 1 Appendix 3

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Page 53: it has been found that the fuel also contains rather high concentrations of C, Ca, Cl, Fe, Mg, Mn and these are not found in the ash. this stuff might have turned into Li-6 On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Table 1 Appendix 3 on page 42 of the Rossi report is the E

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Mistakes happen, NASA crashed a Mars probe because they mixed up metric and standard measurements. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM, leaking pen wrote: > No, its very laughable. He uses phrases like, well know that. as in, we > should all know this. but... he gives no sources, no numbers, and

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:58 AM, frobertcook wrote: > Eric-- > > > The question remains, what is the mechanism that transfers mass energy to > thermal energy at Mev levels without gammas? > Superabsorbsion of a polariton (SPP) boson condensate. SPP last about 50 picoseconds, When they decay, the

[Vo]:Table 1 Appendix 3

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
Table 1 Appendix 3 on page 42 of the Rossi report is the EDS analysis of the Fuel and Ash with natural abundance comparison. Look particularly at the Li-6 counts in the ash. This Table should tell us what is happening in the reaction, if it can be believed but so far, an important detail seems to

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread leaking pen
No, its very laughable. He uses phrases like, well know that. as in, we should all know this. but... he gives no sources, no numbers, and has failed to notice that there are DIFFERENT types of sintered alumina, some of which are DESIGNED to be transparent (sapphire shielding), and some which ar

Re: [Vo]:Alumina transmisivity

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
here is another graph On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > [image: figure 6] > > From the graph, 1300C looks like a 2micron wave length, this corresponds > to a transmittance of about .85, > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> A correspondent wrote t

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > At 06:14 PM 10/10/2014, H Veeder wrote: > >> The issue of translucency would alter the absolute power calculations but >> wouldn't the relative difference between input and output power remain >> roughly the same and therefore the COP too? >

Re: [Vo]:Alumina transmisivity

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
[image: figure 6] >From the graph, 1300C looks like a 2micron wave length, this corresponds to a transmittance of about .85, On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > A correspondent wrote to me (not an exact quote): > > a quick look a the literature scrub shows transmissivity of

Re: [Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
There is lots of indicators over many systems that spin zero diprotons are involved in the initial fusion reaction. No one thinks that 4He is involved in the fusion reaction in LENR. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:17 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:04:12 -0400: >

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
No -- the input power calculation is correct as it is. The output power -- and hence COP (output/input+output) -- may change. Ooops COP = (input+output)/input

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 18:28:58 -0400: Hi, [snip] For a better explanation of why all the Ni in a given sample converted, see my post in the Hydronic molecule thread. > wrote: > > >> If Rossi already knew the reaction mechanism, then it wouldn't be hard to >> weig

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 06:14 PM 10/10/2014, H Veeder wrote: The issue of translucency would alter the absolute power calculations but wouldn't the relative difference between input and output power remain roughly the same and therefore the COP too? No -- the input power calculation is correct as it is. The output

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > This transparency to infrared photons must be why Rossi uses this ceramic > material to get heat unencumbered to his powder. Rossi is clever. > > ​Or maybe it allows more infrared photons to escape unencumbered once the reactor "ignites". ​Har

Re: [Vo]:Halo lithium was:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: mix...@bigpond.com > In reply to H Veeder's message > > * Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... Lithino > > ... or maybe the apparent Rossi reaction of Ni58 -> Ni 62 can be > accomplished w

Re: [Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:04:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] >When negative muons catalyze a fusion reaction the muon has a tendency to >"stick" to the helium. > >Not is the helium is 2He. this type helium decays to protons in 10-22 >seconds. ...and plays no part in muon catalyz

Re: [Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:05:20 -0400: Hi, [snip] >10-22 seconds > >should read > >10^^-22 seconds 1E-22 works better for ASCII text and legibility. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
The issue of translucency would alter the absolute power calculations but wouldn't the relative difference between input and output power remain roughly the same and therefore the COP too? Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > At 03:48 PM 10/10/2014, you wrote: > >> Yes

Re: [Vo]:Alumina transmisivity

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Spelled wrong, with words left in . . . transmissivity

[Vo]:Alumina transmisivity

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
A correspondent wrote to me (not an exact quote): a quick look a the literature scrub shows transmissivity of alumina quickly drops to zero past ~7 micron wavelength. Much of the data seems to be in relation to the crystalline variant (e.g sapphire) vs non-crystalline. http://www.janis.com/Libr

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:56:30 -0700: Hi, [snip] >On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM, wrote: > >...but note that energy is required to remove the neutron from the source >> isotope, so a lot of those 2965 isotopes will be useless, depending on >> which >> isotope supp

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
*Elforsk tar* nu initiativ till att bygga upp en samlad svensk forskningssatsning. Mer kunskap behövs för att förstå och förklara. Låt oss engagera fler forskare i att söka belägga fenomenet och därefter förklara hur det fungerar. Elforsk now takes the initiative to build a united Swedish organizat

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 05:15 PM 10/10/2014, Alan Fletcher wrote: b) If it were perfectly transparent, then we can treat the outside of the inner cylinder as the source. The energy per square can be calculated, but the area is smaller (as r^2) But what's the emissivity of the inner cylinder? Or can we assu

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 09:10 AM 10/10/2014, Craig Haynie wrote: They've either changed the wording on their statement, or Google Translate does not agree with the previous translation. The statement from Elforsk now sounds much more passive; not like they plan to take any action. Mats Lewan told me that the offi

Re: [Vo]:A bombshell of a different type?

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:58 AM, frobertcook wrote: The question remains, what is the mechanism that transfers mass energy to > thermal energy at Mev levels without gammas? > As you allude, gammas were not seen in this test run. That leads me to adopt Robin's hypothesis, that it was lithium th

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 04:34 PM 10/10/2014, Axil Axil wrote: Jones is right... Fundamentals of Ceramics Michael Barsoom The chapter on optics is mostly concerned with transparent ceramics. But it does point out that ceramics are mostly transparent, and that they become opaque by scattering from point sources or

Re: [Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
10-22 seconds should read 10^^-22 seconds On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > When negative muons catalyze a fusion reaction the muon has a tendency to > "stick" to the helium. > > Not is the helium is 2He. this type helium decays to protons in 10-22 > seconds. > > On Fri, Oct

Re: [Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
When negative muons catalyze a fusion reaction the muon has a tendency to "stick" to the helium. Not is the helium is 2He. this type helium decays to protons in 10-22 seconds. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:59 PM, wrote: > Hi, > > When negative muons catalyze a fusion reaction the muon has a tendenc

[Vo]:Hydronic molecules & sticking

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
Hi, When negative muons catalyze a fusion reaction the muon has a tendency to "stick" to the helium. It is this sticking that is actually the limiting factor in the number of fusion reactions that a muon can catalyze. By analogy, when a Hydrinohydride catalyzes a neutron transfer reaction, it wou

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
This transparency to infrared photons must be why Rossi uses this ceramic material to get heat unencumbered to his powder. Rossi is clever. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > > http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/83021/1/Sintering%20to%20transparency.pdf > > See page 528 > >

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:29 PM, wrote: ...but note that energy is required to remove the neutron from the source > isotope, so a lot of those 2965 isotopes will be useless, depending on > which > isotope supplies the neutrons. > Yes, this is true. I forgot to mention that the reactions were de

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
http://digital.csic.es/bitstream/10261/83021/1/Sintering%20to%20transparency.pdf See page 528 Al2O3 is transparent to mid range infrared between the 2 and 5 micron wavelengths. That is the operating temperature of the E-Cat. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Jones is right...

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Jones is right... If the reactor material is transparent to infrared to any degree, the remote temperature sensor would be looking at the temperature somewhere inside the ceramic tube. Since the amount of radiate heat is proportional to the surface area of the radiating body at the air boundary, t

[Vo]:Halo lithium was:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com In reply to H Veeder's message * Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... Lithino ... or maybe the apparent Rossi reaction of Ni58 -> Ni 62 can be accomplished with a known particle, which is halo-lithium or Li-11. This isoto

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to mix...@bigpond.com's message of Sat, 11 Oct 2014 09:14:28 +1100: Hi, [snip] >C13 might make an interesting replacement for the Lithium, as might Si29, if it >works at all. If so, then it is far more abundant than any of the others[1], >and >like Li should allow clean reactions:- > >29

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 03:48 PM 10/10/2014, you wrote: Yes and the thickness of the alumina and the "time constants" of heat transfer dTouter/dt = K(Tinner - Touter) or similare suitable equation. Fundamentals of Ceramics Michael Barsoom About 600 pages. I found a probably bootleg copy on the web, but you'll have

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Kim Jung-Un missing from official North Korean website

2014-10-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Looks like his sister tried a coup d'etat: http://www.independent.ie/world-news/asia-pacific/north-korean-leader-kim-jongun-flees-after-attempted-coup-by-sister-30652068.html

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Yes and the thickness of the alumina and the "time constants" of heat transfer dTouter/dt = K(Tinner - Touter) or similare suitable equation. On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > Not scientific -- but a search of google images for "alumina transmission" > indicates that you c

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
Not scientific -- but a search of google images for "alumina transmission" indicates that you can get pretty much any profile you want (Include transparent sapphires, of course), and that the actual profiles vary wildly. One would thus have to characterize the ceramic actually used, and then

Re: [Vo]:Rossi comments on duration of test

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:22:20 -0700: Hi, [snip] >When I >run the numbers, I'm seeing that out of 3184 isotopes in Mathematica, 2965 >are exothermic under neutron capture versus 95 that are endothermic. ...but note that energy is required to remove the neutron from

Re: [Vo]:Leaning towards Inconclusive

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 03:06 PM 10/10/2014, Lennart Thornros wrote: I am unclear of if you think there is incompetence or fraud, which can be suspected? Incompetence. (I only mentioned fraud to show I thought it unlikely).

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 23:04:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] >don't you remember when Rossi said... > >He said that he tested a number of "secret sauce" element which all >basically worked. > >Lithium is just one of a number of elements that do basically the same >thing. > >Lithiu

Re: [Vo]:Leaning towards Inconclusive

2014-10-10 Thread Lennart Thornros
Alan, I am unclear of if you think there is incompetence or fraud, which can be suspected? Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of

RE: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-cat test

2014-10-10 Thread Jones Beene
From: Foks0904 I find it funny that anonymous GoatGuy is literally one of the best-read "skeptics" out there and get's so much play, but in my view he deserves it because he's pretty good and the "skeptical" community generally sucks. Still don't think his objections discredit the report, b

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Again how serious this is depends on the temperature difference between the inner and outer shell no. If that was serious you would expect the top edge of a picture of the hot cat to have unsharp color shade because the top edge should represent the heat of the outer shell. I have not find such an

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread a.ashfield
Alain, There are several answers to your question. 1. Alumina is not completely transparent and so heats to equilibrium. 2. The run with the "dummy" unfueled E-Cat takes care of any IR measurement error. 3. I believe they did use calibrated "dots" at some point. Adrian Ashfield

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread David Roberson
Jones, you are discussing one of the main concerns about the accuracy of the test as far as I can ascertain. Someone needs to review the behavior of the alumina when illuminated from within to prove that we are not being confused. This should not be too difficult since any light source that

[Vo]:Leaning towards Inconclusive

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
I hate to say it, but I'm leaning to "inconclusive" for the report as a whole. Controls: I don't have any problems with the experimental controls as a whole, and in particular Rossi's involvement, which was supervised at all times. There is no chance that secret power was fed to the system. E

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 02:22 PM 10/10/2014, Alain Sepeda wrote: Hi, among the skeptic argument one of the only that is not laughable is the one of goatguy... maybe is it because I don't understand it well... He seems to say - that alumina is not a grey body, but transparent, and that emissivity must be mixed with

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
The 7 professors who wrote the TIP report are supposed to be answering such criticisms. They should have set up a website for just that purpose. Rossi did. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Foks0904 . wrote: > I find it funny that anonymous GoatGuy is literally one of the best-read > "skeptics"

Re: [Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
I find it funny that anonymous GoatGuy is literally one of the best-read "skeptics" out there and get's so much play, but in my view he deserves it because he's pretty good and the "skeptical" community generally sucks. Still don't think his objections discredit the report, but I wouldn't mind seei

[Vo]:About Goat Guy theory of Alumina transparency and emissivity change on E-ca test

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
Hi, among the skeptic argument one of the only that is not laughable is the one of goatguy... maybe is it because I don't understand it well... He seems to say - that alumina is not a grey body, but transparent, and that emissivity must be mixed with translucidity when considering the radiation of

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > *Our* company. > > Exciting times! > > He's not relying on some report by a bunch of scientists. Tom Darden is >> no fool, He's yale graduate / head of a billion dollar hedge fund. >> > I am curious Mr. Spinnaker. Why are you so impressed by the opinions of industri

Re: [Vo]:Magnus Olofsson , CEO Elfors

2014-10-10 Thread mixent
In reply to H Veeder's message of Thu, 9 Oct 2014 22:56:00 -0400: Hi Harry, [snip] >Maybe it can all be done with shrunken lithium... > >...Lithino > >harry Yes, that thought had also occurred to me, however it doesn't explain the need for Hydrogen. But there is another possibility...if a shrunke

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder wrote: > As far as I know the biggest source of coal pollution comes from coal > fired electricity plants. However, Tom Darden seems to be talking > about coal burning just for heat. > I believe he means burning coal and other fossil fuel for all purposes, including process heat, elect

Re: [Vo]:NetworkWorld covers Report

2014-10-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Gibbs also said in the above referenced message: "If something hot in LENR comes up and anyone cares to nudge me, I’d be grateful but until then I’ll be keeping my fingers crossed for a breakthrough ..." I'm sure he was nudged. ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > $64 question: Was Rossi present at the time the reactor was opened? > Yes, the reports says he was. > > If so, and this has been reported on E-Cat World, then that means the > sample > which Bianchini tested was not independently obtained – and could have been > tampered

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
I have been studying this trying to figure if some of the 30,000,000 watts of 200-800 Hz pulsed EMF @ 3GHz carrier wave from a radar station might be collected by 1"-4" wave height in ocean and dissolve a shallow coral reef skeleton made of CaCO3 just like this unit that gets 4 stars on amazon htt

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Yes, this mechanism is central to the way I believe that the E-Cat works. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Good way to induce electrical currents in nano antennas and arcing across > gaps in powder depending on pulse frequency and carrier frequency matched > to size of par

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
Good way to induce electrical currents in nano antennas and arcing across gaps in powder depending on pulse frequency and carrier frequency matched to size of particles/receivers On Friday, October 10, 2014, Axil Axil wrote: > From the TIP report on page 1 > > The heat generating process is init

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
It is worth noting that some F&P cells got hot enough to boil off the electrolytic solution and then remained hot for a while. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Very perceptive and a great insight into why the test was setup the way > that it was. Rossi has not solved hi

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
>From the TIP report on page 1 The heat generating process is initiated by heat from resistor coils around the reactor tube. In addition, the resistor coils are fed with some fed with some specific electromagnetic pulses On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > Those good fellows

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
what impact does it have about the question whether the blank when powered with more energy, is brighting much less than the one with one gram more of magic powder ? to the point that the things inside the reactor bright more than the resistors ... if the skeptics are really skeptic, they have to

Re: [Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread ChemE Stewart
I Agee. It was mentioned he uses the coil to heat as well as feed it a pulse train, probably a square wave pattern, which is a good way to induce EMF into the mix On Friday, October 10, 2014, Axil Axil wrote: > Those good fellows over at E-Cat world stated that Rossi uses a > magnetic pulse to

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: > ​This is another reason why most scientists will ignore this report >> because they see themselves as a community of equals. >> > > > The community that ignores experimental falsification of their theories > is, indeed, a community of equals. > Yes! And a confederacy of du

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:48 PM, H Veeder wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> >> I am glad they published this report. They were under no obligation to do >> so. We are beggars and beggars cannot be choosers. >> >> > ​This is another reason why most scientist

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > I am glad they published this report. They were under no obligation to do > so. We are beggars and beggars cannot be choosers. > > ​This is another reason why most scientists will ignore this report because they see themselves as a communit

Re: [Vo]:Re: Boom - Tom Darden speaks.

2014-10-10 Thread H Veeder
As far as I know the biggest source of coal pollution comes from coal fired electricity plants. However, Tom Darden seems to be talking about coal burning just for heat. I suppose this is still a major problem in China. Harry On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > Original l

[Vo]:magnetic pulse

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Those good fellows over at E-Cat world stated that Rossi uses a magnetic pulse to startup his reactor. I did not know this. Many of the E-Cat World readers memorize Rossi’s every word. This is a great thing but I confess that I cannot do it myself. Such an important revelation about Rossi theory mi

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
If there is a real transparancy issue as GoatGuy suggest then the inner must be of much higher temperature then the surface. To get a feeling of this issue I tried to look at the published picture of the cat and see if there was a region of lower temperature at the upper part of the ecat in the hea

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Brad Lowe wrote: Does anyone know if there will be a press release or Q&A where the > experimenters can answer questions? > It would be extreme negligence to allow Levi or Rossi to open the > reactor or handle the ash. > Extreme negligence toward who, under what law or what set of rules? This is

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Very perceptive and a great insight into why the test was setup the way that it was. Rossi has not solved his control issues yet. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: > Brad, I think part of the problem was control. When you use the hot cat > to actually heat something I sus

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
The continued use of these two remote IR temperature sensors leads me to suspect a large output of IR radiation witch would have interfered with directly wired instrumentation On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Brad Lowe wrote: > Does anyone know if there will be a press release or Q&A where the

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Brad, I think part of the problem was control. When you use the hot cat to actually heat something I suspect it messes with the ability to control the reaction. The best they can do is let it radiate, which is why the thermal cameras. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Brad Lowe wrote: > Does

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Alain Sepeda
I think you exagerrate to the point of non sense. even if goatguy make a real point it is just changing the values of the temperature and the power. not the fact that COP>1, and even >>1 one reactor with less energy in, get more bright than one with more power getting in. maybe COP is not 3.2 bu

[Vo]:burnt out particles

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
The microscopic photos of Rossi’s nickel particles were very revealing. These pictures show a mix of burnt-out particles and still functional particles. IMHO, because Rossi is running his reactor at a very high temperature, his particles have a definite half-life based on the operational temperatur

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Brad Lowe
Does anyone know if there will be a press release or Q&A where the experimenters can answer questions? It would be extreme negligence to allow Levi or Rossi to open the reactor or handle the ash. Two things that lends credence to Jones' fear-- Rossi's constant "may be positive or may be negative"

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
While I'm not nearly as optimistic as you are, I hope you're correct. The mass-spec they promised in their past ICCF paper had me excited. I won't hold my breath though. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > DGT either has no more money or loads of money. I believe DGT is now well

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
DGT either has no more money or loads of money. I believe DGT is now well funded. Yes as exceptional scientists and system engineers they have developed a tool for transmutation analysis. And when DGT soon emerges from the dark, they will take away Rossi's candy both theoretically and commensally..

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
*As far as I know, the people doing these tests do not care about innuendos or the opinions of Jones Beene, or anyone else. I believe they have good reasons for "imposing restrictions" (as Lewan put it). These reasons override any concerns about public relations or public opinion.* *I am glad they

Re: [Vo]:Nasa scientist endorses report

2014-10-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Foks0904 . wrote: Jones -- I can't say your objections to Rossi being present when it was > open are unfounded. I think that was a rather stupid move/agreement between > the parties. Creates all kind of innuendo which they could/should have > avoided. > As far as I know, the people doing these t

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
Wasn't DGT going to do something like this before they imploded? On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > What I wanted to see in a TIP Ni/H transmutation experiment is a well > calibration real time second by second NMR element assay as the > transmutation proceeds. NMR resonance an

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
What I wanted to see in a TIP Ni/H transmutation experiment is a well calibration real time second by second NMR element assay as the transmutation proceeds. NMR resonance analysis is well-known in chemistry research. This is possible to do when the associated analysis software is written, calibra

Re: [Vo]:transmutation

2014-10-10 Thread Foks0904 .
Axil -- I don't think it's fair to keep pointing at Storms as the only one who discounts transmutation as the mechanism -- he's only the most vocal. There are many non-vocal, well-qualified people in the community who don't believe it either. It's the main reason so many people reject Widom-Larsen

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