Re: [Vo]:MMDD .... Muon Mediated Deuteron Disintegration

2015-10-26 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: I have not yet looked closely at Holmlid's results, but I don't write them > off. I'm keeping a distinction in my mind between his experimental > observations and his theoretical speculations. > I have now had a chance to look more closely at Leif Holmlid's 2013 paper, "Direct observati

[Vo]:One of Rossi's secrets?

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
Axil to Ecco Omega Z posted: As to WHY they only had a limited sample.The reason Rossi was involved with extraction of the sample was he didn't want the Professors to analyze the internals of the reactor. Rossi stated this at the time. Everyone seems to have missed that.I don't have that link but,

Re: [Vo]:RE: Holmlid (Olafsson) <> Ultra-dense Hydrogen <> Particles Info

2015-10-26 Thread Lennart Thornros
Right Jones. Let us switch, English is way to complicated and unstructured.. Mycket uppskattat.:) (Both switch of language and the download, which I probably only can digest s l o w l y. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granit

RE: [Vo]:RE: Holmlid (Olafsson) <> Ultra-dense Hydrogen <> Particles Info

2015-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
Tack ! (thanks in Swedish) From: Jed Rothwell I downloaded it without difficulty, and put it here: http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/HRP01.zip I do not intend to leave it there, so get it soon. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:RE: Holmlid (Olafsson) <> Ultra-dense Hydrogen <> Particles Info

2015-10-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I downloaded it without difficulty, and put it here: http://lenr-canr.org/Collections/HRP01.zip I do not intend to leave it there, so get it soon. - Jed Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- > From: Mark Jurich > > > Holmlid Archive (~27 MB): > http://tempid.altervista.org/HRP01.zip

[Vo]:RE: Holmlid (Olafsson) <> Ultra-dense Hydrogen <> Particles Info

2015-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Mark Jurich Holmlid Archive (~27 MB): http://tempid.altervista.org/HRP01.zip I cannot download this file - for whatever reason, probably a security issue with Firefox. If anyone on vortex can download it and post it to where Firefox will not complain - it wil

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
When 10 billion kaons are produced simultaneously and instantly after photons from a laser arrives, how does the kaon formation process know to break up the arriving energy into kaon sized chunks. It seems that this creation process is the inverse of the gamma absorption process. On Mon, Oct 26, 2

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Axil Axil wrote: I think that it is but is is being sent backward in time. > Positrons? Sounds dangerous. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Reddit question on cold fusion

2015-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
8) 2015-10-26 16:43 GMT+01:00 Esa Ruoho : > Good stuff. I wonder who the AlainCo voice of reason was. > > > On 26 October 2015 at 13:56, Alain Sepeda wrote: > >> Just another question on Cold Fusion on reddit. >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3q7qd3/eli5_can_somebody_e

[Vo]:special issue LENR Info, birthday photos

2015-10-26 Thread Peter Gluck
That is it, tomorrow back to hard work and discovering more than info http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/10/oct-26-2015-info-and-my-birthday-photos.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread David Roberson
How true! At one time Rossi was offering hints that could actually be tested in some manner. My thermal model using his PWM leaks would actually suggest a decent COP could be produced with the right engineering. Unfortunately, very little information has been emitted from that camp since IH

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
Holmlid is heaven compared to getting info from Rossi. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:52 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Axil, is it possible that you are jumping to wrong conclusions? When > observations do not seem to add up, it is time to prove that they are in > fact valid. I think we need at leas

RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Yup I agree with you Axil although I am no expert on these matters I also don't know of anyway they could be generated from the protons. I will be interested if someone has an explanation for that. Just to expand on the strange quark pair generation idea: This is why I was wondering that if su

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread David Roberson
Axil, is it possible that you are jumping to wrong conclusions? When observations do not seem to add up, it is time to prove that they are in fact valid. I think we need at least a replication of these results before we go way out on a limb trying to explain something that might not be happeni

Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid

2015-10-26 Thread David Roberson
I am left wondering how an electron can be accelerated by a known magnetic field in an exact manner that corresponds to that mass being 511 keV. The same is true for acceleration within an electric field. It would seem logical that any extra mass that is being carried along as energy of some t

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
I think that it is but is is being sent backward in time. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:13 PM, David Roberson wrote: > Is there proof that an equal amount of positive charge is not being > produced at the same time? > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Walker > To: vortex-l >

Re: [Vo]:Taking Holmlid towards a useful device

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
LERN can be very mild. Biological based LENR works inside bugs. It should be able to handle a cell phone. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > To be realistic … although one microgram of dense hydrogen represents about > 30 kWhrs of thermal energy based on the net decay energy

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread David Roberson
Is there proof that an equal amount of positive charge is not being produced at the same time? Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Oct 26, 2015 10:05 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Axil Axi

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
It's psychological. Rydberg matter is Holmlid's baby. He wants his baby to succeed. Like almost all LENR experiments, Holmlid assumes that the means of the reaction is the cause of the LENR reaction. But the cause of the reaction is not Hydrogen Rydberg matter. This stuff only produces the cause. J

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Eric Walker
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:33, "Jones Beene" wrote: > > Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron in > the case of the antimuon). This is technically not “beta decay” at least not > as taught by pedantics. > I'm not sold on the whole meson -> muon decay explanation.

RE: [Vo]:Taking Holmlid towards a useful device

2015-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
To be realistic . although one microgram of dense hydrogen represents about 30 kWhrs of thermal energy based on the net decay energy of the nucleon disintegration, it is clear from both theory and Holmlid's results - that most of that energy is lost to neutrinos. In fact the usable energy could be

Re: [Vo]:Reddit question on cold fusion

2015-10-26 Thread Esa Ruoho
Good stuff. I wonder who the AlainCo voice of reason was. On 26 October 2015 at 13:56, Alain Sepeda wrote: > Just another question on Cold Fusion on reddit. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3q7qd3/eli5_can_somebody_explain_to_me_what_cold_fusion/ > -- --- http://twit

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
I don't understand how strange and antistrange quarks can come from protons. There would need to be a quark reformatting process involved that can turn matter into different matter and antimatter types instantly. It is easier to accept that light energy from the laser is turned into matter and anti

Re: [Vo]:Taking Holmlid towards a useful device

2015-10-26 Thread Bob Higgins
Having retired from 37 years in the portable electronics world, I hate these scenarios where LENR are suggested for application to cellphones. They all suffer from the same problem as the fuel cell powered cellphone - waste heat. When a Li battery discharges in powering a phone it produces very li

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
Because all the 10 billion kaons are produced instantaneously, the stuff that produces them must be entangles. Holmlid cryptically says that "entanglement is needed" On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Stephen Cooke wrote: > Good point about the delays, is there a good explanation for the differen

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Could generation of +/- s quark pairs be the trigger for nucleon disintegration. Could each pair with an up quark to form kaons and force the disintegration of the nucleons from which the up quark comes? Each s quark has a rest mass of 100MeV. I'm not sure if there is a meson containing an s qua

Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
dirac said that the partner of the electron had negative mass. This bothered people so Feynman said that the positron was just a negative particle going backward in time. This concept of going back in time is important somehow. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Bob Higgins wrote: > You ask a ve

[Vo]:Taking Holmlid towards a useful device

2015-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a video which is pregnant with real world ideas about where to go with the Holmlid technique and SPR (surface plasmon resonance). I think the "future will be small" for dense hydrogen - in the sense of merging with microlithography for high value products. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Good point about the delays, is there a good explanation for the different delays for the two sources 52ns for protium and 26 ns deuterium? Interesting that protium takes exactly twice as long and is half the mass. I appreciate the +/- kaon half life is about 12ns. > On 26 Oct 2015, at 15:13,

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
The LENR reaction effect are long range with the detector being 3 meters for the source of the reaction. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > The reaction changes based on the color of the filter that is used on the > laser. The time to change the filter is 60 seconds. This means

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
The reaction changes based on the color of the filter that is used on the laser. The time to change the filter is 60 seconds. This means that the Hydrogen rydberg matter is long gone on the second and third laser shot. When Cs137 is used as a probe. the reaction produces a spike in the beta decay

Re: [Vo]:slide deck for ultradense hydrogen / Leif Holmlid

2015-10-26 Thread Bob Higgins
You ask a very good and hard question. As an EE, I find much of Hotson's description much more satisfying that what I was taught in school. However, I wish Hotson was still around (now deceased) so that I could visit him to come to a greater understanding of his theory. He describes that the nega

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
The delay or 12, 26, and 52 ns means that the kaons appear before any other particles are produced. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron > in the case of the antimuon). This is technically not “beta decay”

RE: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Jones Beene
Wait a minute – the end result of muon decay is an electron (or positron in the case of the antimuon). This is technically not “beta decay” at least not as taught by pedantics. Beta decay is defined as a type of radioactive decay in which a proton is transformed into a neutron, or vice versa, w

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
Holmlid says that the the reaction is delayed by 26ns for deuterium and 52 ns for protium. This means that the reaction is produced by a decay product of the K mesons. The 10 billion kaons are produced simultaneously. Positrons are seen but no gamma. This is important. This means that the mechanism

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:18 AM, Axil Axil wrote: In point of fact, Holmlid is producing electrons from nothing in his > experiment. Don't get excited, we are just talking here. > If one applies straightforward logic, there are only three possibilities: - Baryogenesis and tachyons are creat

[Vo]:Reddit question on cold fusion

2015-10-26 Thread Alain Sepeda
Just another question on Cold Fusion on reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3q7qd3/eli5_can_somebody_explain_to_me_what_cold_fusion/

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Well if Kaons are present on the up side we always thought something strange was going on in this process😉. Although energetically there is enough rest mass in Deuterium to produce a Kaon through some kind of low energy or collective trigger for the nucleons to trigger can it account for the fo

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Stephen Cooke
Yup I was also wondering about the different quarks in the Kaons. Was the signature in their data clear? Or was there some other reason they inferred Kaons as well as Pions? Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Oct 2015, at 08:03, Axil Axil wrote: > > K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark

Re: [Vo]:Neutral K mesons violates CPT

2015-10-26 Thread Axil Axil
K−, negatively charged (containing a strange quark and an up antiquark) has mass 493.667±0.013 MeV and mean lifetime (1.2384±0.0024)×10−8 s. K+ (antiparticle of above) positively charged (containing an up quark and a strange antiquark) must (by CPT invariance) have mass and lifetime equal to that o