I must agree. I was a
little underwhelmed when I saw that after the way DGT were going
on about their high tech lab etc.
On 30/01/12 11:42, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
LOL
This is the high technology lab of Defkalion as said by
On 25/01/12 15:41, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Somewhere in a recent collection of Vort posts was a thread or two
touching on speculation (evidence?) that the source of the massive
amount of exothermic heat generated from Rossi's eCats is actually due
to gamma radiation being emitted f
BTW, you need to put the
vortex email address (vortex-l@eskimo.com) in the reply-to field
of your email client otherwise replies to your questions don't go
the mailing list but only you.
On 25/01/12 11:45, zer tte wrote:
Hi,
Can we e
Here is the link to that
device http://www.ergenics.com/page22.htm
On 25/01/12 07:59, Alain Sepeda wrote:
Periodinc dumping of H seems not true for me.
the tank would be empty quickly, and it would be dangerous.
DGT clearly said that no "Vent" is done, exce
Thanks for the explanation. I knew DGT were using a heat transfer
fluid but didn't realise they were preheating it to assist with the
start up.
"...The
lack of steady gain is part of the larger problem of
“quiescence”.
The active material goes in
The issue I have with with Rossi's device is the high electricity
demand required to start off the E-Cat and the length of time
required to get it going and then the periodic electric demand to
keep it going. In comparison DGT's system seems draw much lower
power to start
I think you're right
Jones. Once DGT have their verified test results published Rossi
will be under a lot of pressure as all attention will then be
diverted to DGT and there success. Rossi may just realise this
(with a little help from his wife) and try do another
From what I understand
with regards to DGT's licensing, is that the license fee gives you
all the necessary info to start the production. So all you need to
do is find a premises of sufficient size and then DGT will give
the blue prints for the manufacturing plant
I think Rossi's best
chance is to stop giving out contradicting information /
statements. A couple of weeks ago the home e-cat was going to ship
at the end of this year, then yesterday he states that it won't be
for another 12-18 months. What happened? There is th
Thanks Bill
Although I'm new to this mailing list and haven't contributed
much, I still enjoy reading the opinions, ideas and news from
those more knowledgeable then myself. I must confess that I'm here
mainly for the Rossi / LENR threads though.
There is also lanr.com,
which may or may not be related but I assume it is related as they
too say they will be live at the end of January. They're talking
about producing and selling reactor cores.
--
LANR
Lattice Assisted Nuclear Rea
Whilst that confirms that
the plant never left the facility, seeing the facility so empty
and devoid of activity certainly doesn't look like a there is much
research, or optimisation work going on with NI or any other
partner engineers. Of course it is possible th
AG,
Not that it changes anything, but why do you expect the facility to be
heated by the e-cat? Rossi said that the facility that he was heating
with the e-cat was sold to raise funds to take this project further.
What is clear is that we just don't know what is going on. I hope Rossi
clears
I still don't think that was spelled out clear enough to ensure an non
ambiguous answer.
You didn't specifically ask if that was the container that he is working
on for the customer with NI. It's possible that the footage is recent,
the container was the one from the test and is still there to
I believe this is probably the most likely case.
On 19/01/12 13:58, Vorl Bek wrote:
Maybe the container in the video and picture is a demo, like the
ones in car showrooms. The one the customer actually buys is the
one from the lot or the one being manufactured that is shipped in
a week later.
AG
If he is working on fixing leaking gaskets then he doesn't need the
whole plant working so perhaps they are using the unit on the table for
stress testing. Likewise NI may not require the whole plant working to
do their work.
There is also the possibility that this unit is only a test bed
eady in 1 month.
Go figure.
AG
On 19/01/2012 10:49 PM, Energy Liberator wrote:
AG
I agree that the plant was not moved. I was referring to Jones'
comment
This was my point earlier.
Many things can be misunderstood or misinterpreted because of
Rossi's use and understanding of English. I deal with a lot of
foreign people in English and am used to how they phrase things in
English or their understanding of English.
OK, I can't argue with
that.
On 19/01/12 12:56, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Wolf,
On 30 Oct 2011, Andrea Rossi said the 1 MW plant had been shipped
to the customer and he was building the next 1 MW plant in a new
container.
htt
arch to see if I can find anything.
On 19/01/12 12:13, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
EL,
Rossi stated the plant did ship to his US customer and he attended
to do the install.
AG
On 19/01/2012 5:45 PM, Energy Liberator wrote:
That stains on the floor could be water (or another fluid) which
evaporated leaving no stain. Admittedly they look dark for water but may
be a product of the exposure. So I don't think it's conclusive.
On 19/01/12 03:24, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Daniel,
Try this image of the non and stained fl
ot be difficult.
On 19/01/12 12:09, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
EL,
The plant has not moved, despite what has been said. The images
confirm that.
AG
On 19/01/2012 6:08 PM, Energy Liberator wrote:
This is what I said
earlier. I don't recall Rossi ever saying that the container was
shipped. The seems to have been assumed once Rossi said the
customer was happy and the plant was sold.
On 19/01/12 08:44, Wolf Fischer wrote:
I searched a lit
Jones
Isn't it possible that the US customer's facility is in Italy? If
the customer is military, as speculated to be, then it's possible
that they are using one of their bases in Italy to monitor and
deal with Rossi and the 1MW plant. The US have a base near Vice
Perhaps the original 1MW
plant never shipped to the customer's location as the customer
wanted it fixed before shipping, i.e. the leaking gaskets, the
control system etc. As I recall Rossi never said the unit was
delivered to the customer's premises although I cou
It's remarkable how quick
things change with this. In a previous post on JONP a few days
ago, Rossi specified a size of 40x40x40, now it's significantly
smaller. It's great that he can now provide hot water too as that
increases the appeal even further allowing fo
That to me looks like it
was from Jan 13 2009, not a few days ago.
On 18/01/12 13:05, Paul Calvo wrote:
what do you make of this statement by Joe Zawodny /
NASA a few days ago?
http://joe.zawodny.com/index.php/2009/01/13/capture-the-moment
In Aussie Guy's summary of
the key points of the show he stated "Heating is via low energy
Gammas hitting the lead shielding." I must of missed that in the
interview and will have another listen when I get time.
This sounds to me that the heat used to heat
, at 15:28, Energy Liberator <energylibera...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I've been thinking
about this a little more and am starting to wonder how Rossi
is able to achieve such a low price. At $500 for 10kW,
cost. There is also
the industrial design aspect. Rossi must have come up with some
sort of design for an enclosure for the unit which must be cheap
to manufacture and easy to remove for refuelling.
On 13/01/12 10:53, Energy Liberator wrote:
On Rossi&#
I agree. This changes things significantly. It will be interesting
to see how this is achieved. It's simple enough to change a
cartridge with the nickel powder but how is the hydrogen taken care
of? Perhaps the whole reactor core including the hydrogen storage is
built in
On Rossi's JONP -
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563&cpage=11#comment-169012
Andrea
Rossi
January 13th, 2012 at 3:03 AM
Dear Albert Ellul:
Thank you.
The
For some reason the technologygateway.nasa.gov site is not loading for
me. It just times out. It's been doing that all morning. Is there
another link to this video on another site?
video from NASA about lenr (cold fusion)
http://technologygateway.nasa.gov/media/CC/lenr/lenr.html
I was wondering about the safety of hydrogen cylinders in homes. Wouldn't it be better to produce the hydrogen by electrolysis and instead of storing it? The system could produce a small amount at a time and does it in a small chamber replenishing it as it's required.Alternatively, some safety sys
circuit circulating pump would consume
400 Watts. With 20 kW thermal output and 400 Watts electrical
input, the COP is 50.
AG
On 1/4/2012 11:25 PM, Energy Liberator wrote:
Where did you get a COP of 50 from? I
thought it
Where did you get a COP of
50 from? I thought it was 6. Rossi said in his interview that the
running cost would be about 1/6th of a current conventional boiler
running cost.
On 04/01/12 07:52, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Based
on the recently announced 20
On 23/12/11 14:40, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I am pretty sure the reason is because he wants to keep a low profile.
He wants enough people to believe it is real to attract customers, but
not so many that it attracts competition or attention from the
authorities. He does not want the DoE to think it
On 20/12/11 20:32, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Defkalion is not only starting a company, it is
developing revolutionary technology, dealing with complex business
arrangements, and dealing with Rossi, who is a difficult person to do
business with.
S
Nice find. Now all we need
is someone to do a drive by and take a few photos to see the
progress of the factory.
On 21/12/11 04:30, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
So the coordinates of the Defkalion factory are:
41.1188
24.8674
+1 I would live to see this list migrate to a forum for reasons already mentioned by Brad
I've been lurking here for
a couple of months now and have learned a great deal from all the
comments. But reading this really saddened me. I truly hope that
one day these so called scientists that refuse to admit there is
something going on with CF or LENR end up
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