it 2011 again. ;-)
All serious cold fusion companies do this from time to time, some do it
succesful for 20 years now.
Peter
- Original Nachricht
Von: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 12:14
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Hello group,
Have a read at this article posted today on NyTeknik. It's about the
backstage of tomorrow's Defkalion Announcement:
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3353181.ece
A short excerpt:
?Let?s say I have
@**gmail.comshirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 12:14
Betreff: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
Hello group,
Have a read at this article posted today on NyTeknik. It's about the
backstage of tomorrow's Defkalion Announcement:
http
On 2011-11-29 13:01, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If this is true they are gangsters and Rossi has my full support.
And also at University of Siena they have gangsters, if this is true.
I guess if this turns out to be true, Rossi was not wrong about snakes
and competitors lurking everywhere,
enough.
Peter
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 13:22
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
Others have openly admitted in trying to get a spectrum. And joked about
it how Rossi got
Are you saying you support IP theft? This is not Vulcan where the needs
of the many outweigh the needs of the few:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa6c3OTr6yA
This is business and this is, if proven, theft. If I was Rossi, I would
be talking to the police and asking for charges to be filled
I have no problems with the test the 2 Swedish physicists, Levi. Focardi
and a hand full of other academics did.
AG
On 11/29/2011 11:12 PM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
If it is true, then it is a case of scientific fraud and industrial spionage.
If its untrue and they all collaborate
Only in this case. This invention, if true, is too precious to be kept
private.
2011/11/29 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
Are you saying you support IP theft? This is not Vulcan where the needs
of the many outweigh the needs of the few: http://www.youtube.com/watch?*
*v=Xa6c3OTr6yA
, they did not got enough evidency to exclude fraud by
measured facts.
This is Rossi's fault.
Peter
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 13:55
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
I have
If proven it is planned IP theft. Clear and simple. Those involved
should go to jail and the University, if involved, should be forced to
pay a very large amount of money. The courts do not consider the Needs
of the Many justify theft of the IP of the one. And neither should you.
Theft is
We don't know how much of Piantelli's patents Rossi used anyway. Send both
to jail? :)
2011/11/29 Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
If proven it is planned IP theft. Clear and simple. Those involved should
go to jail and the University, if involved, should be forced to pay a very
They acted like scientists do. We are not certain. We need to do more
tests, which you can pay us for. Oh and by the way we need to do those
tests in private so we can get the radiation spectrum and figure out
that you have inside. I'm like Rossi, an engineer and I don't give a
C**P what is
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
Others have openly admitted in trying to get a spectrum. And joked about
it how Rossi got angry at them for trying it on. Like it had no value.
Almost suggesting Rossi had no right to withhold it from science. If
true I do hope he sues
If Rossi used some Piantelli IP then Rossi will need to pay Piantelli a
royalty. However that does not excuse outright IP theft, especially when
the theft was arranged in advance.
AG
On 11/29/2011 11:41 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:
We don't know how much of Piantelli's patents Rossi used anyway.
maybe is it still legal to build a similar reactor, with a pattented, or in
process of patent, technology,
but you have to obtain the allowance of the inventor/owner... and not steal
it.
normally rossi before applying for patent, should have put a document in a
third-party file, that proove that
- Original Nachricht
Von: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 14:11
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
We don't know how much of Piantelli's patents Rossi used anyway. Send both
to jail? :)
As long as he
Rossi has said his IP / trade secrets are in Escrow and if anything
should happen to him they will be released, I guess to him estate. So he
has dated and recorded his priority.
AG
On 11/29/2011 11:50 PM, Alain dit le Cycliste wrote:
maybe is it still legal to build a similar reactor, with a
I suspect there was bad blood there for some time and Rossi used Krivit.
Have you listened to the way Krivit asked questions? HE showed no
respect at all and basically / indirectly accused most who he
interviewed of lying. I know and have many good Italian friends. They
would not stand to be
.
Its so simple, why havent they done it?
- Original Nachricht
Von: Aussie Guy E-Cat aussieguy.e...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Datum: 29.11.2011 14:15
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
They acted like scientists do. We are not certain. We need to do
On one test occasion Rossi had provided 2 holes through the 2 cm thick
lead shielding. The scientists present at that test tried to switch the
radiation detector from count mode to spectrum mode, despite Rossi
telling them they were not allowed to record a spectrum. Rossi saw what
they were
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Only in this case. This invention, if true, is too precious to be kept
private.
Wasn't that the defense used by Julius and Ethel Rosenberg?
T
All this discussion based on an August phone call to someone at Ny Teknik
back in August is just unwarranted drama, I predict Xanthoulis will deny
this version of the story and leave it to Rossi to make a case if there is
one. If DK did get a hint from Sienna then they have had plenty of time to
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