On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> As far as "retribution" is concerned, perhaps getting
> even would entail nothing more satisfying than generating a well
> publicized list of all the meticulous things nay-sayers had
> proclaimed.
Some of these people are Ita
At 08:38 PM 8/3/2011, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
wrote:
> I came to a conclusion of fraud, defined as wilful
> deception, after seeing a lot of evidence for it, which I was always
> explaining away, as did others.
If I thought there could be the s
>From Terry:
>> I came to a conclusion of fraud, defined as wilful
>> deception, after seeing a lot of evidence for it, which I was always
>> explaining away, as did others.
>
> If I thought there could be the slightest possibility that Rossi and
> Defkalion were not committing fraud, I think I'd
2011/8/4 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax:
Now, if you assessed the probability at 70%, rationally you would bet 40
euros against a lesser amount from me. Suppose my bet is X euros. Forget the
charity thing, it complicates it.
It is impossible to assess probabilities for one time events,
Nonsense.
At the
2011/8/4 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax :
> Now, if you assessed the probability at 70%, rationally you would bet 40
> euros against a lesser amount from me. Suppose my bet is X euros. Forget the
> charity thing, it complicates it.
>
It is impossible to assess probabilities for one time events, such as
for t
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
wrote:
> I came to a conclusion of fraud, defined as wilful
> deception, after seeing a lot of evidence for it, which I was always
> explaining away, as did others.
If I thought there could be the slightest possibility that Rossi and
Defkalion
“Ps. However, I will condemn Mills crack pot theory as false, because
he is explaining cold fusion effect by dark matter. This is very
feeble argument, because there is no such thing as dark matter or at
least, we do not have any evidence that supports that hypothesis!
http://pubs.rsc.org/en/
At 05:57 PM 8/3/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
2011/8/4 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax :
> I've done a great deal of research on this topic.
Problem is that mere research is not enough, because you need to be
able to do your own conclusions from data and that includes reading
other people's mind from between
2011/8/4 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax :
> I've done a great deal of research on this topic.
Problem is that mere research is not enough, because you need to be
able to do your own conclusions from data and that includes reading
other people's mind from between the lines. This is very difficult,
because we
At 01:34 PM 8/3/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman, you are free to express your opinion, but it is just
speculation. There is absolutely nothing in your criticism that has
any factual content. Question is how much money you are willing to bet
for your opinion? I will challenge you for 40
I was thinking about a thick hose, anyway :)
Yeah, I saw that later and acknowledged that in the other thread about 18
hour test. Answer me there :)
At 12:00 PM 8/3/2011, Daniel Rocha wrote:
I don't see any problem with 130KW, given it was just a spike in
power with a base at 18KW, which is measured by the amount of steam
poured. That means a 7 time increase in speed of the steam for some
seconds. It probably blew as strong as a vacuum clea
At 11:58 AM 8/3/2011, Charles Hope wrote:
At 11:58 AM 8/3/2011, you wrote:
Consider how futile it should be to make a prediction six months
out, as Rossi did regarding October, if reliability was still being
addressed the entire time. That does not smell right. One can only
predict confidently
2011/8/3 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson :
> Considering Jouni's recent challenge:
>
>> ...I will challenge you for 40 euros that Rossi does
>> not do a fraud. If E-Cat is true, you pay 40 euros to charity,
>> and if not I pay 40 euros for charity.
>
> Perhaps Charles and Hope should set a realistic
Considering Jouni's recent challenge:
> ...I will challenge you for 40 euros that Rossi does
> not do a fraud. If E-Cat is true, you pay 40 euros to charity,
> and if not I pay 40 euros for charity.
This strikes me as a civilized bet, one that could be formalized
between two reasonable individual
2011/8/3 Charles Hope :
> Consider how futile it should be to make a prediction six months out,
> as Rossi did regarding October, if reliability was still being addressed
> the entire time. That does not smell right. One can only predict confidently
> about well controlled processes. Why arbitraril
I don't see any problem with 130KW, given it was just a spike in power with
a base at 18KW, which is measured by the amount of steam poured. That means
a 7 time increase in speed of the steam for some seconds. It probably blew
as strong as a vacuum cleaner.
Consider how futile it should be to make a prediction six months out, as Rossi
did regarding October, if reliability was still being addressed the entire
time. That does not smell right. One can only predict confidently about well
controlled processes. Why arbitrarily box oneself in like that?
At 03:42 AM 8/3/2011, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
Accoriding Steven Krivit (#3 report and some earlier writing),
Daniele was also present at 18 hour test (i have not seen other
sources). Therefore he is within the greates fraud of cold fusion or
tells truth that world is saved, because he knows with
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:42 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
> Accoriding Steven Krivit (#3 report and some earlier writing), Daniele was
> also present at 18 hour test (i have not seen other sources).
Indeed he was; and, Daniele has more insider knowledge than Krivit
since Daniele has known Levi for de
Accoriding Steven Krivit (#3 report and some earlier writing), Daniele was
also present at 18 hour test (i have not seen other sources). Therefore he
is within the greates fraud of cold fusion or tells truth that world is
saved, because he knows with certainty whether E-Cat is for real or a hoax.
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Akira Shirakawa
wrote:
> He must have read quite revealing emails, as he says. Too bad we'll probably
> have to wait until the end of October to see for ourselves the conclusive
> pieces of evidence, but that's not too far away in time after all.
"It is very stran
On 2011-08-02 14:55, Terry Blanton wrote:
You *know* it! From today's blog:
"In a few months I predict a peak in the world, not oil, but requests
for psychotherapy by skeptics, deniers, scientist, following the
collapse of their granite certainties."
You rock, Daniele!
He must have read quit
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Y0c8llMBHCk/TjdF3Ye-TiI/FYg/1NltRQDNJ-E/s640/stevenpotter.jpg
You *know* it! From today's blog:
"In a few months I predict a peak in the world, not oil, but requests
for psychotherapy by skeptics, deniers, scientist, following the
collapse of their granite certainties."
You rock, Daniele!
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