Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:10 AM 3/27/2010, Michel Jullian wrote: 2010/3/27 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > I intend to fix that, you know. Good. Obviously, common sense starts at IQ 159 in CF researchers ;-) Geez, I mention the result of one test told to me in the 1950s, and it keeps bouncing back. I'm smart, sure. As

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:37 PM 3/26/2010, Michel Jullian wrote: I am just stating a fact, not judging the validity of anybody's claims.There would be no airplanes today if the Wright brothers hadn't allowed skeptics to judge their claims with their own instruments (=own eyes in their case). Luckily, they were not t

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-27 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:30 PM 3/26/2010, Michel Jullian wrote: 2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell : > Michel Jullian wrote: > >> > So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly >> > their >> > airplane? >> >> A better analogy is that I would not believe them unless I saw them >> flying it with my own e

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-27 Thread Michel Jullian
2010/3/27 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax : > At 07:39 AM 3/26/2010, Michel Jullian wrote: >> >> No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say "my cell makes excess >> heat" but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter. > > I intend to fix that, you know. Good. Obviously, common sense starts a

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:39 AM 3/26/2010, Michel Jullian wrote: No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say "my cell makes excess heat" but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter. I intend to fix that, you know. Except the first cells won't be calorimeter-ready, they might not generate anough

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Harry Veeder
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Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Michel Jullian
I am just stating a fact, not judging the validity of anybody's claims.There would be no airplanes today if the Wright brothers hadn't allowed skeptics to judge their claims with their own instruments (=own eyes in their case). Luckily, they were not that stupid. Michel 2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell : >

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: Duncan didn't bring in his own measurement system so he didn't see the excess heat for himself. Oh give me a break. That's ridiculous. The technique was replicated as SRI and ENEA. CBS sent one of the world top experts in calorimetry to confirm it. What more do you wan

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Michel Jullian
2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell : > Michel Jullian wrote: > >> > So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly >> > their >> > airplane? >> >> A better analogy is that I would not believe them unless I saw them >> flying it with my own eyes. > > If that is what you want, you should b

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am sure this is a subject no one is interested in but me, BUT, I wrote: This is actually closer to Wright brothers test than most people realize. For a non-expert observer, the early flights were difficult to distinguish from an uncontrolled powered hop. In 2003 on national television news

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: > So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly their > airplane? A better analogy is that I would not believe them unless I saw them flying it with my own eyes. If that is what you want, you should be satisfied with Rob Duncan going out to see t

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Michel Jullian
2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell : > Michel Jullian wrote: > >> No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say "my cell makes excess >> heat" but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter. > > So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly their > airplane? A better anal

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michel Jullian wrote: No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say "my cell makes excess heat" but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter. So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly their airplane? Actually, for most experiments, this demand mak

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-26 Thread Michel Jullian
No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say "my cell makes excess heat" but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter. Michel 2010/3/25 Jed Rothwell : > I should have added -- > > Nothing like what I have described has happened so far because no one in the > energy business reali

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
I should have added -- Nothing like what I have described has happened so far because no one in the energy business realizes that cold fusion exists. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Suspending the program, in fact, would have a highly negative effect on U.S. jobs, AWEA said. "At a time when the construction unemployment rate is nearly 25% and the manufacturing unemployment rate is 13%, this proposal could cost 85,000 American workers their jobs," . . .

[Vo]:Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk

2010-03-25 Thread Horace Heffner
http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2010/03/stimulus- suspension-would-put-85000-wind-jobs-at-risk-industry?cmpid=WindNL- Thursday-March25-2010 http://tinyurl.com/yj6yqrb March 8, 2010 Stimulus Suspension Would Put 85,000 Wind Jobs at Risk by Carl Levesque, AWEA AWEA and