Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions

2013-02-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
We are connected to the Earth and we are all, like the Earth, creatures of the quantum vacuum. Once we realize those filaments of energetic dark matter connecting the universe contain beaucoup amounts of entropic vacuum energy at our disposal, and realize how to utilize it, off we go. Stewart O

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2013-02-26 Thread James Bowery
Today's New York Times carries an oped "The Riddle of the Human Species" by E. O. Wilson in which he goes outlines the thesis of his book "The Social Conquest of Earth" regarding the evolution of eusociality in humans

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2013-02-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
While I do not disagree with your 1000 year view of our potential, we currently have all of our eggs, literally, sitting in one basket on this Earth. We need to solve that as well as detection, interception of the bad stuff headed our way. Love your robots. Curiosity should have a front row seat

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart wrote: > It will probably be a comet that takes us out at some point. > Those things are not that difficult to stop, if we have 20 to 100 years warning. We have successfully sent semi-autonomous robots to Mars. That level of technology would be sufficient to stop just about any co

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: Now Jed, you are agreeing with my conclusion. Should I take the opposite > view as you normally do? > The difference is this. You think these things are increasingly likely and we should worry about them. I think that in general the world is getting better, less dangerous an

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2013-02-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: Now, as you note, drones may give everyone a tool to gum up the works. > Once the hummingbird drones become armed and readily available, at least on the black market, as I assume will happen before too long, they will be a painful lesson for h

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2013-02-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
. A large asteroid > might be a different problem. > > Dave > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell > To: vortex-l > Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 6:22 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions > > David Roberson wrote: > > We have survived this long

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2013-02-25 Thread Mark Goldes
torms [stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:42 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions Now Jed, you are agreeing with my conclusion. Should I take the opposite view as you normally do? My belief is that mankind will eventually find way

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2013-02-25 Thread David Roberson
: [Vo]:Tech Predictions David Roberson wrote: We have survived this long by some means so I assume that we will continue to do so into the future. I do not see the logic of that! That is like saying we have survived countless wars, so why should we worry about a full-scale nuclear war? In

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2013-02-25 Thread James Bowery
In the event that anyone is interested in the opinion of what many believe to be the world's foremost living naturalist, E. O. Wilson, it is worth getting his latest book "The Social Conquest of Earth" wherein he describes the phenomenon of eusociality -- whether in animals or humans -- as a driver

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2013-02-25 Thread Gibson Elliot
ake is one hacker, one glitch, one terrorist who doesn't realize what he's done. Gibson From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions Now Jed, you

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2013-02-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Now Jed, you are agreeing with my conclusion. Should I take the opposite view as you normally do? My belief is that mankind will eventually find ways and means to destroy all life as we know it. We are almost at this level now. The only question is whether these means will be used. That is

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: We have survived this long by some means so I assume that we will continue > to do so into the future. I do not see the logic of that! That is like saying we have survived countless wars, so why should we worry about a full-scale nuclear war? In 1914 people said war is wa

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2013-02-25 Thread David Roberson
, Feb 25, 2013 4:42 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Tech Predictions I apologize if it seems that I introduce material associated with conspiracies but I feel I have been driven to them, having no alternative. At present, the world looks so bizarre to me, I cannot satisfy my sense of logic otherwise - and if

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: > Saying that the human race - and its elite - are no more irrational than > in the past is no comfort if technology could give anyone the power of a > weapon of mass destruction. > That does not seem likely. Don't fret about it. Even if there is a potential for small nuclea

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2013-02-25 Thread Chris Zell
I apologize if it seems that I introduce material associated with conspiracies but I feel I have been driven to them, having no alternative. At present, the world looks so bizarre to me, I cannot satisfy my sense of logic otherwise - and if it isn't obvious already, the adventure of trying to c

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: I do not think Park is irrational or has any mental problems. > I do not think so either. He is, however, what the British call "a nasty piece of work." Huizenga was affable in person, but awfully closed-minded in his book. Such people are as common in academia as any othe

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: The reason I was asking about his background is that I wonder if some in > government circles are concerned that LENR can be weaponized. You mean to make it go bang. Martin Fleischmann and Edward Teller worried about that. I do not know anyone else. I think it may be a le

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2013-02-25 Thread David Roberson
would do anything to keep others from developing similar devices. I hope that this is not possible. Dave -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 3:18 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions David Roberson wrote: Have you ever discussed with Mr

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2013-02-25 Thread Edmund Storms
On Feb 25, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Edmund Storms wrote: I agree Chris. This delay is embarrassing. However, if you examine the nature of the ridicule, you will see a common feature. The writers are generally ignorant, angry, and without any ability to understand logic. Y

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery wrote: Its probably a mistake to try to psychoanalyze these guys. I agree! I have said that before. I am not trying to psychoanalyze anyone. I take them at their word. They say cold fusion is lunacy and hoax and blah, blah. I assume they mean what they say. I think they are lazy a

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: I agree Chris. This delay is embarrassing. However, if you examine the > nature of the ridicule, you will see a common feature. The writers are > generally ignorant, angry, and without any ability to understand logic. > You mean the people who denounce cold fusion as a scam

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2013-02-25 Thread James Bowery
Its probably a mistake to try to psychoanalyze these guys. I've described the phenomenon as "institutional incompetence". These "people" are not acting as individual at all but as parts of institutions that are stru

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: > You acknowledge the problem - and I think the good guys will win > ultimately. However, all those papers downloaded so far mean nothing . . . > I am saying they will mean something if it becomes generally known that cold fusion is real. The "authorities" or Men in Black wi

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: > Have you ever discussed with Mr. Park the reason for his behavior? > Dr. Park. I don't mean that he is the only one. He is particularly prominent. I use him as a stand-in for others at the DoE, the Jasons and elsewhere. I have only spoken with him on a few occasions, br

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2013-02-25 Thread Edmund Storms
I agree Chris. This delay is embarrassing. However, if you examine the nature of the ridicule, you will see a common feature. The writers are generally ignorant, angry, and without any ability to understand logic. Consequently, CF has become a test of the mental health of society. This beh

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2013-02-25 Thread Chris Zell
You acknowledge the problem - and I think the good guys will win ultimately. However, all those papers downloaded so far mean nothing - until you can produce something simple, reliable and affordable for common useage. I consider the situation nothing less than astonishing that, after the firs

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2013-02-25 Thread David Roberson
: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 1:41 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tech Predictions Chris Zell wrote: Use a little imagination. They can can accuse LENR advocates as aiding terrorists. They can plant child porn on their computers. "They" can do all kinds of things, and they al

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2013-02-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
You are right that the blocking of LENR should be done with the complicity of the population. My vision is that it will be done through manipulation of fear and morality. What you cannot force people to surrender, they can give it to you with a good manipulation, with a series of TV documentary an

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2013-02-25 Thread ken deboer
ken deboer New Topic: Just happened upon a new patent , US app 20130044847 "APPARATUS AND METHOD FOR LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS' by Dan Steinberg of Blacksburg, Virginia. Obviously relevant but I am totally unqualifed to make any useful comments on it. 'Who are these guys?' On Mon, Feb 25,

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: ** > Use a little imagination. They can can accuse LENR advocates as aiding > terrorists. They can plant child porn on their computers. > "They" can do all kinds of things, and they already have. People such as Robert Park have deliberately and destroyed the reputations of di

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2013-02-25 Thread Chris Zell
Use a little imagination. They can can accuse LENR advocates as aiding terrorists. They can plant child porn on their computers. They can make an example of any one of them by murdering one of them and pretending it was a suicide - or just a "random" crime that never gets solved. And you thin

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2013-02-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: > It might be possible to enforce a monopoly within the EU on any LENR use, > apart from clandestine operation. > I doubt it. The EU countries have democratically elected governments. Cold fusion will be save roughly $2,500 per person, per year, or ~$10,000 for a family of 4.

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2013-02-25 Thread Alain Sepeda
monopoly won't be official, but defacto because of "moral" regulation, like what is happening today. my nightmare, yet probable, scenario is that NGO try to block LENR because it oppose their marketing, funding, and Malthusian ideology. Big energy corps support those efforts to manipulate opinion

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2013-02-24 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: the other is that EU make a regulation to forbid LENR, but when big energy > master LENR, they will obtain the monopoly to exploit LENR, keep the price, > keep the grid, and waste most of LENR added value in useless safety > measures. It might

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2013-02-24 Thread Alain Sepeda
It is not sustainable. All is based on taxes and subsidies, and on false price not taking the reality of variable demand across the day. backup thermal energy is not paid at real price. The LENR CHP will reduce the consumption and bill of home, bill which already hard to accept in germany (germany

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2013-02-23 Thread Jouni Valkonen
In Germany there will be ca 100 GW solar installed by 2020. This is inevitable, because there just happened the crossover that commercial grid electricity is now more expensive for the companies than producing own rooftop solar electricity. Grid electricity costs for the companies about 110–170

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2013-02-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Gibbs wrote: How about throwing in some predictions on world resource use, nuclear > power, wind power, robots, the erosion of funding for HF, or the zombie > apocalypse? > Nothing on zombies! This is not a prediction so much as my reading of the mass media in Japan and the Sunday talk sho

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2013-02-13 Thread Mark Gibbs
How about throwing in some predictions on world resource use, nuclear power, wind power, robots, the erosion of funding for HF, or the zombie apocalypse? [mg] On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The IT predictions are interesting! > > I have sworn off trying to predict the f

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2013-02-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
The IT predictions are interesting! I have sworn off trying to predict the future of cold fusion because it determined by politics, not technology. If it was technology we could spot a trend or extrapolate from what has happened. But the progress of cold fusion -- or likely lack of progress -- dep

[Vo]:Tech Predictions

2013-02-12 Thread Mark Gibbs
http://www.polratings.com/predictions Currently they're all IT predictions but anyone care to predict what will happen in CF in 2013? If you have an insight, fire away: http://www.polratings.com/predictions/prediction-submission/ [mg]