Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: A demo must be rehearsed and gone over and over again until it is completely debugged and perfect. Exactly right! Rossi does not yet get this simple principle because he uses these demos as on-the-fly design and unit testing tools. He has no respect for his audience. He

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Axil Axil
The amount of thinking and detailed engineering detective work that some of our most esteemed members have put forward to makeup for Rossi's ill defined test plan is truly awe inspiring. But my eyes glaze over when I try to get to the heart of the proof of principle that the demo was suppose to c

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > 19:08 Delta T 8.2°C. Hydrogen discharged, degassing of powder begins, > primary circuit flow rate increased. It is unclear whether this temperature > was recorded before these actions or after them. > Oops. I read that wrong. That Delta T is from 19:22. There was no reading at 19:08.

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Higgins Bob-CBH003 wrote: ** ** > > As I recall, at the same time the hydrogen was discharged, the water flow > rate was increased – basically being doubled. This caused short term > stored energy (hot water) to be pushed out of the E-cat output and then > measured in the heat exchanger. > No d

RE: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Higgins Bob-CBH003
stored heat from the reactor more quickly to the exchanger. Regards, Bob Higgins From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 1:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut? Peter

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Leguillon wrote: > Please provide a specific example of the heat increase during > "Heat-After-Death." You have been asked multiple times for this . . . > I have pointed it out multiple times. The temperature continues rising after the power is cut off at 15:50. It rises again peaking

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: > In this case, the skeptics are ignoring the fact that the heat increased > during heat after death, instead of declining according to Newton's law. > This proves they are wrong. I have not seen a response from any of them > trying to explain this fact. > > This is not igno

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Rich Murray
Well, as the skeptical chorus within Vortex-L increases in number, thoroughness, and competence, rapidly evolving a substantial consensus, I seem to be inadvertently getting lost in the back row -- as a pragmatic skeptic, I better hasten to volunteer that I think that Defkalion has either had no ac

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.10.2011 16:56, schrieb Jed Rothwell: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > wrote: From hence forth they tend to advertise only the observations that support the premise that Rossi is a "fraudster." Observations that may suggest Rossi's work might actu

RE: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Robert Leguillon
In this case, the skeptics are ignoring the fact that the heat increased during heat after death, instead of declining according to Newton's law. This proves they are wrong. I have not seen a response from any of them trying to explain this fact. Steve Krivit was so anxious to gloss o

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: >From hence forth they tend to advertise only the observations that > support the premise that Rossi is a "fraudster." Observations that may > suggest Rossi's work might actually possess merit are conveniently > ignored and/or glossed over. > In this case, th

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Mr. Driscoll, > Rossi has done test after test poorly... Indeed, there are many will agree with this observation. > ...for a reason - when will people understand this? What needs to be understood is indeed the 64 trillion dollar question - or perhaps 64 cents. Take your pick. What I've n

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jeff Driscoll wrote: A fraudster (i.e. Rossi) could have yanked on that thermocouple just before opening up the insulation wrapping making it fraudulently appear that the thermocouple was close to the exit of the secondary cooling water when in fact it was close to the hot steam input side of

Re: [Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Jeff Driscoll
A fraudster (i.e. Rossi) could have yanked on that thermocouple just before opening up the insulation wrapping making it fraudulently appear that the thermocouple was close to the exit of the secondary cooling water when in fact it was close to the hot steam input side of that brass manifold during

[Vo]:Thermocouple extends beyond steel nut?

2011-10-14 Thread Horace Heffner
This photo by Mats Lewan of Nyteknik of the 6 Oct Rossi Tout thermocouple leaves little doubt in my mind that the Tout thermocouple can and probably did extend beyond the steel nut, toward the brass manifold. It was thus subject to the air temperature near that manifold. http://www.mtaonl