Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-10 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:28 PM 12/9/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Well, think about it, Axil. The button is a circular piece of metal, probably steel. It has a well in it, shallow, as I described. At the

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-09 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:17 PM 12/8/2012, Axil Axil wrote: The problem is that I have an Am-241 source which is a sheet of metal (steel?) with a circular ridge welded onto it. The Am-241 is in the well formed by the ridge. So if I place the beryllium on top of the ridge, it will be elevated from the source by

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: Well, think about it, Axil. The button is a circular piece of metal, probably steel. It has a well in it, shallow, as I described. At the bottom of the well, there is what looks like, under magnification, some kind

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium (Belynium?)

2012-12-08 Thread Susanna Gipp
Actually I heard that in Savona (Italy) University they found a rare isotope of Beryllium. They named it Belynium an there are strong suspects that (along Unobtainium) is part of Rossi's and Defkalion catalyzer secret mixture. As soon I found it I'll post the related paper. 2012/12/7 Abd

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:51 AM 12/8/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Would it cut cleanly, if thin enough, or would it crush? There could be a way to pull this off safely, with capture and proper disposal of any

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:56 AM 12/8/2012, Axil Axil wrote: IMHO, Beryllium does not need to be reformed in any way no matter what its original shape. It is a neutron moderator; most neutrons will pass right through it. But some will be slowed if the beryllium is very thick. The problem is that I have an

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-08 Thread Axil Axil
*If I want a small piece of beryllium that will fit in the well of an Am-241 source, to get maximum neutron flux, I might arrange to buy some pieces like that.* This is wrong thinking. To get the most neutron intensity, a very thick piece of beryllium (Be) is required to increase the probability

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-08 Thread Axil Axil
*The problem is that I have an Am-241 source which is a sheet of metal (steel?) with a circular ridge welded onto it. The Am-241 is in the well formed by the ridge. So if I place the beryllium on top of the ridge, it will be elevated from the source by ... okay, damn it! I'll go find the durn

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-08 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
How about using gadolinium: http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=16_17_69products_id=141 I bought a beryllium marble from them a few years ago for a coupe of bucks, but they aren't listing it anymore. Hoyt Stearns On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Axil Axil

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:29 AM 12/8/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Eric Walker mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.comeric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that you don't find out if it what you did was safe for five years, and then you have a 1/3 chance of dying or being disabled.

[Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:02 PM 12/6/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yes, a more powerful reaction would be nice, but we must work with what we have, as Abd stresses. We will die of old age if we sit around waiting UPS to deliver a $1.5 million package of unobtainium. It's coming? And the reward of patience is ...

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
Abd, I assume you're aware of the hazards of working with this stuff? That being said, its melting point is not absurdly high - under 2400F. Could you melt some under, say, an N2 or argon atmosphere, on perhaps a ceramic surface, so that it spread out into a thin layer, and then cool it? Jeff

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
A friend (not on this list) commented to me on the side: Molten metals have a wicked high surface tension. Would never flow, always ball-up. He says the only choice is hot forging/hot rolling. Comments: You can turn glass on an ordinary lathe if it's red hot. Jeff On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:57

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:57 PM 12/7/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: Abd, I assume you're aware of the hazards of working with this stuff? Very. That, indeed, is the problem. If I were blissfully unaware of the dangers, I'd cheerfully start sawing it hammering it or filing it down, eh? Of course, it's pretty hard.

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:27 PM 12/7/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: A friend (not on this list) commented to me on the side: Molten metals have a wicked high surface tension. Would never flow, always ball-up. He says the only choice is hot forging/hot rolling. Comments: You can turn glass on an ordinary lathe if

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread David Roberson
I would not mess with that in any manner Abd. Take care my friend. Dave -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Dec 8, 2012 12:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium At 11

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
manner Abd. Take care my friend. Dave -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com; vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, Dec 8, 2012 12:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium At 11:27 PM 12/7/2012, Jeff Berkowitz

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:45 AM 12/8/2012, David Roberson wrote: I would not mess with that in any manner Abd. Take care my friend. Thanks for your concern. Don't worry. The danger of the piece of Beryllium I've purchased is quite small. This is it: if it's got a white powder on it watch out! If it got

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
, 2012 12:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium At 11:27 PM 12/7/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: A friend (not on this list) commented to me on the side: Molten metals have a wicked high surface tension. Would never flow, always ball-up. He says the only choice is hot forging/hot

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: Would it cut cleanly, if thin enough, or would it crush? There could be a way to pull this off safely, with capture and proper disposal of any dust. Do it under water? Waste disposal? So ... maybe. But that's not

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Axil Axil
Sent: Sat, Dec 8, 2012 12:31 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium At 11:27 PM 12/7/2012, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: A friend (not on this list) commented to me on the side: Molten metals have a wicked high surface tension. Would never flow, always ball-up. He says the only choice is hot

Re: [Vo]:Unobtainium and Beryllium

2012-12-07 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that you don't find out if it what you did was safe for five years, and then you have a 1/3 chance of dying or being disabled. More accurately, I think it would be something like this -- for each