Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Hey, the Phantom Eye looks like a thermos bottle: > No doubt that is what it is. I think they said they need only 8 or 10 to cover any spot in the world. Not if a few of them get shot down they don't! U.S. defense planners are beginning to act as if we will never face a tec

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Hey, the Phantom Eye looks like a thermos bottle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97lvvSrgkiY T

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > But, I think you need to factor in the weight of the thermos jug. ;-) > And the shape of it. As I said, the Airbus concept airplane looks like pregnant guppy swimming upside down. That's gotta produce some air resistance. Putting the fuel tanks above the passengers is a

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > You are wrong. You don't have to be so loquacious. :-) Per pound: Gasoline: 18,000 BTU Liquid Hydrogen: 60,000 BTU But, I think you need to factor in the weight of the thermos jug. ;-) T

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sed: ... > ... People kept underestimating him [Edison], and he kept blowing > his critics out of the water. He gave his investors nightmares > while he struggled to pull off these things. In regards to Rossi, it is a good thing you are only playing the role of honorable scholar and meticulo

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Edison definately had Asperger's. So does Bill Gates as did Albert > Einstein. Beethoven, Mozart . . .: > I doubt Einstein had this problem. He was a charming person. When he chose to be, he was well tuned to people's emotions, and skilled at academic politics in his early

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Edison definately had Asperger's. So does Bill Gates as did Albert Einstein. Beethoven, Mozart . . .: http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm My grandson. An 'A' student but a social misfit. T

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
On 3/25/2011 5:17 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Per US galloon: Gasoline = 115,000 BTU Liquid H2 = 35,000 BTU Yeah, other than being "green" I see no advantage to using liquid hydrogen in a combustion engine. You are wrong. For aircraft, you have to measure BTU per pound (or MJ per kg in civiliz

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: There was no electromagnetic pulse. Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors. The former detected nothing. And what of the latter? As I reported here, both the Geiger counter and the sodium iodide detector went off the scale. He had to r

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Per US galloon: Gasoline = 115,000 BTU Liquid H2 = 35,000 BTU Yeah, other than being "green" I see no advantage to using liquid hydrogen in a combustion engine. T

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: An obvious reason for doing so would be to protect the vulnerability of the technology from corporate espionage, until it has been officially patented. Creating confusion is SOP in defense terms - generating decoys right and left... causing everyone to pursu

RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Roarty, Francis X
On Friday, March 25, 2011 1:58 PM Jones Beene wrote [Snip] We know for sure that this program involves hydrogen (not deuterium) as the fuel, and that the gain is in the range of 20 times chemical, and that converted ICE engines have been used for testing. Aside from that, details are conflict

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jones ... > At any rate, I strongly believe that there has been an ongoing > 'black' or military project since around 2000, which has been > funded under the UAV umbrella, and which could be directly > related to this. > > We know for sure that this program involves hydrogen > (not deuteriu

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > WHOA. You are quoting Rossi or his associates again. Where is the official verification? > > > There is zero confirmation that the University has received one Euro, or that CERN has been officially contacted . . . I don't know about CERN. Several people have been in touch wi

RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell Anyway, as I said yesterday, this is ruled out by the fact that Rossi is paying the university and CERN to open the cell and analyze the Ni catalyst with mass spectroscopy. He would not do that if there were some sort of trick such as a beam outside the cell. WHOA. Yo

RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Steven - Again let me say that most of this last post comes from playing devil's advocate; when in fact the weight of evidence is still on Rossi's side, from my personal PoV ... ...but becoming less so, every time he speaks - since there are always self-contradictions if not total BS. There

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: Executive summary:Can anyone actually verify that E-Cat has ever been run when Rossi was not physically present?If not, why not? I have no idea. However, the university is conducting a year-long series of tests. I do not know where Rossi is, but I am sure he will have to

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jones: ... > Heck, Rossi might have been recruited for this ! even planned it out from > Day-one with the help of skeptics like Park & Co (or more likely the > Pentagon or spooks at some 3-letter org) as a sponsor, for all we really > know. That would explain Park's unaccustomed silence. Ma

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jed: > There was no electromagnetic pulse. > Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors. > The former detected nothing. And what of the latter? Unfortunately, my careless use of the term "EMP" was too imprecise an interpretation. Let me rephrase my previous commentary. Cor

RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jones Beene
Executive summary: Can anyone actually verify that E-Cat has ever been run when Rossi was not physically present? If not, why not? Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell > SJ: My best guess: The briefly detected "EMP" is part of the proprietary > process that has yet to be officially pat

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: The burst of radiation, witnessed by Celani, could be a clue. The idea that it was cosmic rays is preposterous. Let's assume the worst. Why assume "the worst" ??? But, yes, agreed. I think the burst of radiation is an essential ingredient. I think Jones me

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-25 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jones: ... > The burst of radiation, witnessed by Celani, could be a clue. > The idea that it was cosmic rays is preposterous. Let's > assume the worst. Why assume "the worst" ??? But, yes, agreed. I think the burst of radiation is an essential ingredient. > For instance, it could have be

RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-24 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > From your description, I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi has Asperger's Syndrome. Nikola Tesla had Asperger's, no ? Hmm... the movie to avoid, if you want to believe Rossi is more idiot savant and less Uri Geller - is "The Prestige". Another Chri

Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-24 Thread Terry Blanton
>From your description, I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi has Asperger's >Syndrome. T

[Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims

2011-03-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I've been thinking about the fact that Rossi paid the University of Bologna €1 million to investigate his cell, and he granted them permission to open the cell and subjected to mass spectroscopy, reportedly in cooperation with CERN. First, let me predict that a mass spec result will prove indisput