At 11:04 AM 7/30/2011, Joshua Cude wrote:
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Jouni Valkonen
mailto:jounivalko...@gmail.comjounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
That is very true, it requires lots of steam to rise boiling point
temperature by one degree of celsius.
How much is lots? If 2% of the
At 03:18 PM 7/30/2011, you wrote:
Damon Craig mailto:decra...@gmail.comdecra...@gmail.com wrote:
What further amazes me is the degree of disconnect between simple
newtonian physics and everyday life experiences displayed by so many.
I agree. People seem to have no experience with teapots or
At 08:49 AM 7/30/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Damon Craig mailto:decra...@gmail.comdecra...@gmail.com wrote:
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been
presented supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
No, that cannot be happening. As Storms pointed out,
On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud. He may be finding some excess
heat, but his demonstrations and comments amount to fraud anyway.
Exaggerating his results is a form of fraud, and that kind of fraud
has happened before. Come to think of
On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud.
Rossi is probably certain that his device will produce miraculous
amounts of power, but he needs to get just a few small engineering
details right before it does, and he is sure he can do it by
At 04:01 PM 8/3/2011, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud. He may be finding some excess
heat, but his demonstrations and comments amount to fraud anyway.
Exaggerating his results is a form of fraud, and that kind
At 04:12 PM 8/3/2011, vorl bek wrote:
On 11-08-02 06:44 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
I now conclude that Rossi is a fraud.
Rossi is probably certain that his device will produce miraculous
amounts of power, but he needs to get just a few small engineering
details right before it does,
From Abd:
This should be made clear: that kind of phenomenon doesn't
mean that the effect is not real. It means that the conditions
are poorly understood or not controllable.
...
But the unreliability is fatal to commercial application. Rossi
may have seen some truly
Jed Rothwell wrote
Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
Newtonian physics is generally not a part of everyday life experiences. It
is an abstract generalisation deduced from some idealised situations.
Good point. That's why these physics were not discovered until Newton, and why
it
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
All that work, and you didn't come up with an answer?
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com
wrote:
All that work, and you didn't come up with an answer?
I think im not interested in this
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
What further amazes me is the degree of disconnect between simple newtonian
physics and everyday life experiences displayed by so many.
I agree. People seem to have no
It propelled my to ask 'what was really happening in the hose?'
This in turn led me to ask about Lewan's remark in his April 19th report
where he deduces that steam must reside in the chimney.
This is now understandable as a false claim upon the phsical evidence.
Thanks for the Leg work,
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
I've had enough
of this sort of thing from Lomax, or whoever he really is.
Lomax is a real, breathing person; whereas, Cude is a sceptiBot
created by the CSICOP.
T
The viability of a system cannot be determined from an examination of just
one of its components.
Rossi plans to string a number of cat-e's together in series to convert
water to dry steam.
The steam exiting the first cat-e in series may well be wet. The function of
the second... n-th stages
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been presented
supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
However you wish to hold fast the assurtion (am I correct in this?) that
this does not happen, but that liquid water exits as suspended droplets and
maybe a little
Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been presented
supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
No, that cannot be happening. As Storms pointed out, there would be no steam
at the end of the hose. As I pointed out, the
On Jul 30, 2011 3:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been
presented supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
No, that cannot be happening. As Storms pointed out,
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:54 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been presented
supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
I have not seen this evidence. There is a mixture of liquid water and
mist/steam at the
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
It irritates me to no end. All the rational evidence we have been presented
supports the claim that water spills through the outlet.
No, that cannot be happening. As Storms
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote:
No, that cannot be happening. As Storms pointed out, there would be no
steam at the end of the hose. As I pointed out, the temperature would
immediately fall below boiling. It would be obvious.
That is very
What further amazes me is the degree of disconnect between simple newtonian
physics and everyday life experiences displayed by so many.
Storms, if I recall, misundersood how steam made its way along a hose that
also contained water.
Isn't this highschool physics?
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:49 AM,
Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
What further amazes me is the degree of disconnect between simple newtonian
physics and everyday life experiences displayed by so many.
I agree. People seem to have no experience with teapots or steam cleaners.
Storms, if I recall, misundersood how
required disperse and suspend small
droplets in the vapor state
What further amazes me is the degree of disconnect between simple newtonian
physics and everyday life experiences displayed by so many.
Storms, if I recall, misundersood how steam made its way along a hose that
also contained
Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
Newtonian physics is generally not a part of everyday life experiences. It
is an abstract generalisation deduced from some idealised situations.
Good point. That's why these physics were not discovered until Newton, and
why it took a genius like Newton to
In order to resolve the disagreement between the wet steam hyposesis and the
water spill-though hypothesis it's reasonable to ask how much energy it
takes to break water into droplets and lift these a few inches before
sending them out the exit of the rossi device.
The energy requires to increase
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Damon Craig decra...@gmail.com wrote:
In order to resolve the disagreement between the wet steam hyposesis and
the water spill-though hypothesis it's reasonable to ask how much energy it
takes to break water into droplets and lift these a few inches before
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