Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Wolf, This, the Customers, the list of 10,000 domestic E-cats, dumping to kill the competition, the Catalyst, and many other things are marketing tricks and fairy tales for adults (Kindermarchen fur Erwachsene) Interesting but untrue in their greatest part, mixtures of fiction and reality,

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Wolf Fischer
Dear Peter, could you elaborate? How do you come to this conclusion, especially about the robotization (does this word exist? ;))? However I would agree on some of your points like kill the competition and this strange list with 10.000 domestic E-cats. Wolf Dear Wolf, This, the Customers,

RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
Peter, I have an anonymous source claiming that Rossi is expecting patent approval in the near term, and will be announcing not only the frequency of his RFG, but the materiel composition of the catalyst in 81 days. Now we just have to wait for 81 days... (am ersten April).

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Robert, I am ready to believe you, if you will tell the name, address, coordinates and meta-CV of your anonymous source. However the date cannot be true, it;'s Sunday! Peter On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Peter, I have an anonymous

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Wolf, I have elaborated, and many times, and step by step in my papers labelled NEW ENERGY published via my blog http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com following Rossi's series of experiments and statements. Be so kind to tell me where or why do you not agree with what I have stated and I am

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Wolf Fischer
Dear Peter, I didn't know your blog, thanks for the link. I have read some of your posts until the beginning of october and will continue reading, some nice thoughts there. @others: Regarding my initial questions: Can someone with more experience in production automatization comment on

RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
Robert, That must be labeled simply as yet another of Rossi's Kindermarchen fur Erwachsene ... Little that the man says can be trusted. Peter was being diplomatic in not calling him a pathological liar. Long before any patent is approved by WIPO, it will be published (usually 18 months from

RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Robert Leguillon
Sorry; That post was entirely tongue-in-cheek. We are 81 days from April Fools Day. I was going to speculate that the catalyst was not Platinum Black, but Poisson Rouge. From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized... Date: Wed, 11 Jan

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Wolf, my experience is from the chemical industry, not from some assembling industry, however I think you have to know well the manufacturing process the operations etc in order to make it automatic. We (at least I) have not the slightest idea about who is Rossi's team and what they know.

RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
Ha! . Ya' got me on that one .. Poisson rouge indeed. However, it is worth keeping an eye out for new publications from the patent offices of the World. If Rossi DOES NOT have one in progress now, and one that is far superior than the trash we have seen, then he has no hope of the kind of

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
It is not a working day this time...as I have told. However there are 91 days till a very important event http://www.iscmns.org/work10/index.htm where I will try to participate (problem of health but dum spiro, spero) Peter On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Yamali Yamali
I work for a large German car manufacturers in engine development. When we put out a new engine, it takes about nine months from the last prototype to go-live of an assembly line. Most of that time is spent in tool development (tools (werkzeuge) is what we call everything we need to make and

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: There is has been no new publication for Rossi that I know of. WIPO is notoriously slow on approvals anyway. There's always the possibility that the publication has been suspended for National Security reasons.

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Wolf Fischer wolffisc...@gmx.de wrote: @others: Regarding my initial questions: Can someone with more experience in production automatization comment on Rossis statement? Is it technically possible? Any reiterative process can be automated. The question is,

RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
I have a colleague who was developing an organic photovoltaic cell and at one time we looked into what it would cost to set up solar panel manufacturing facility. A single assembly line, highly automated, would cost about $12M, and would run 24/7 and assemble ~20MW of panels per month. There are

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12-01-11 08:57 AM, Wolf Fischer wrote: Hi all, Rossi made the following statement on his journal: / January 10th, 2012 at 4:05 PM/ /[ ... ] ready to make order confirmations in *_Autumn_*; [ ... ] first deliveries will start _*perhaps *_*within the year*, but I

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Yamali Yamali yamaliyam...@yahoo.de mailto:yamaliyam...@yahoo.de wrote: I work for a large German car manufacturers in engine development. When we put out a new engine, it takes about nine months from the last prototype to go-live of an assembly line. . . . Provided he'd get some

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Rossi's compettion will multiply, prosper and deliver certainties. Rossi will become one of many. Peter On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote: ** On 12-01-11 08:57 AM, Wolf Fischer wrote: Hi all, Rossi made the following statement on his journal: *

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: *My prediction*: This is going to be a long, boring year on Vortex with almost all discussion preempted by interminable chewing over of the bits and pieces of rumors and questionable facts surrounding Rossi. I hope that Defkalion will liven things

RE: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Jones Beene
Rght ... this must be tongue-in-cheek day on vortex. Can publication be suspended for purposes of National Humiliation Mitigation? -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton There is has been no new publication for Rossi that I know of. WIPO is notoriously slow on approvals anyway.

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Roarty, Francis X
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized... Rossi's compettion will multiply, prosper and deliver certainties. Rossi will become one of many. Peter On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 12-01-11 02:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: Peter, Rossi is already one of many -- the new researchers that we hear about here on Vortex are less than the tip of the iceberg. Interesting. Can you cite any evidence to support that statement? What other labs are

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Gluck
Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:25 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized... ** ** Rossi's compettion will multiply, prosper and deliver certainties. Rossi will become one of many

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Yamali Yamali
If Rossi would really want to keep prices low and come to market quickly, he'd not build up production in Europe, btw. Even compared with a fully automated factory somewhere in Italy, Asia would be much cheaper and faster to ramp up.

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Roarty, Francis X
is a lesser more controllable catalyst to better diffuse and control the reaction in a more homogenous fashion. Fran From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Harry Veeder
Maybe Brillouin Energy? But they are dull because, unlike Rossi, they don't blog. ;-) Harry On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote: On 12-01-11 02:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X wrote: Peter,     Rossi is already one of many – the new

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: He is probably too old and poor to survive the years of litigation it would take to recover anything from his intellectual property – Especially since new physics must first be proven before any explanation

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure which Moller we're speaking of here. http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm T

Re: [Vo]:Ecat production will be robotized...

2012-01-11 Thread Mary Yugo
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure which Moller we're speaking of here. http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm Woohoo! I was thinking of this one: