Noob -
I think iterative / rapid is good for layout, look / feel - and forms fall
into that.
How to decouple? - My instinct says (for web2py) to make a separate, quick
dummy db, and t2 level controllers to serve forms. I know at one time
Massimo was working on a simple text layout of data which
noobpythoncoder
You asked:
"I Iike the tight MVC paradigm, security, and other good practices
built into web2py, but sometimes I wish there was a way to more
quickly prototype the front-end, eg test the functionality of SQLFORMS
in different views from a user experience perspective, without
worr
I share Achipas opinion, I am quick and merciless. I clicked around,
read a few pages of the documentation, and thought, "nice site design
but not sold yet..."
Negatives
1. Much more work ( have to learn the expression language)
2. Code duplication. Its doing what the built in Jquery lib is there
Perhaps we could 1-up Django someday, and offer to port/rewrite the
Cherokee Admin using web2py, with web2py integrated to run it?!
Excuse my joke... Im just too keen to try Cherokee and think it is
perfect match for web2py.
Im keen to read your tutorial Phyo - hopefully I can adapt it to
FreeBS
Thanks Yarko, we make similar points. I am curious to learn more about
how PyPubSub concepts could be applied to help the front-end/back-end
development balance in web2py. Could you explain?
More specifically, I am curious how web2py users are rapidly
prototyping in web2py now?
>From a newish we
And, of course, everyone speaks for themselves, not for others on the group.
It takes time and effort to speak from considered experience, and there are
a lot of things competing for everyone's attention.
Dunsun, perhaps you have some firsthand experience that you can share.
That would be much app
Any individuals opinion is subjective, eh?! Like I wrote in past - itś
great to read them all! :-)
Dunsun - you ask a good quick question... and most, if not all, the
web app development community shares your GUI development pain! :D
But, achipa makes an informed and logical rebuttal to the idea
yes ... this kind of Observer pattern exists in a lot of places could
be useful here, but i haven't thought about this a lot yet too many
things on my mind at the moment...
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:55 PM, achipa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yarko: Looks a lot like the Observer patt
Yarko: Looks a lot like the Observer pattern to me, if you used Qt
it's the rough equivalent of signals and slots.
On Oct 29, 11:26 pm, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This may be worth looking at; I think this is a part of the discussin in a
> way:http://pubsub.sourceforge.net/concepts.h
What people might be misunderstanding is my motivation here... There
are hardly black-and-white choices, and when an engineering/business
decision has to be made, it's usually for a particular situation.
While the tone might have been a bit harsh, I'm not saying
appcelerator sucks and nobody shoul
I will do pyworks2008 in two weeks.
I submitted a talk proposal to PyCon2009 but I do not yet if it was
accepted (you can sign up and vote it up or down).
I cannot attend EuroPython but I encourage people on this list to
submit a talk proposal for EuroPython and I am happy to share my
slides and
re: Gut: I'd also add that sometimes "gut" reacts to the
unfamiliar - so it's good to approach with openness.
On Oct 29, 5:26 pm, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This may be worth looking at; I think this is a part of the discussin in a
> way:http://pubsub.sourceforge.net/concepts.ht
Hi, Massimo
Will u give a speech on Pycon2009 or EuroPython?
2008/10/27 mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> We proposed a registration solution and there seem to be alternatives.
> If there are no surprised registration will be in web2py:
>
> You can the alpha version here:
>
> http://web2py.apps
I think Yarko is right. there no isapi in python. Mind that you may
need to run from source.
Massimo
On Oct 29, 5:30 pm, "Yarko T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps this?http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyisapie
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:12 PM, BobS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am tr
Perhaps this?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyisapie
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:12 PM, BobS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am trying option 2, the isapi_wsgi preferred option. I loaded
> IIs5.1 on one of my workstations and the http://localhost is
> working. After following all of the instr
This may be worth looking at; I think this is a part of the discussin in a
way:
http://pubsub.sourceforge.net/concepts.html
Anyway, Publish / Subscribe could be useful.
Another thing I'm just realizing is that the client end, and flexibility in
achieving a look is going to be an ongoing challeng
I am trying option 2, the isapi_wsgi preferred option. I loaded
IIs5.1 on one of my workstations and the http://localhost is
working. After following all of the instructions of downloading and
installing the isapi_wsgi, when I go to run the test,
python isapi_wsgi.py install I get the f
IS_IN_DB(db,'person.id','%(lastname)s, %(firstname)s')
On Oct 29, 3:37 pm, morningovermidnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have a table with a firstname column and a lastname column. I want
> the user to be able to select a person's full name from a drop-down
> list. Currently, using IS_IN_DB,
Believe me, I would use Apache if I had the choice.
On Oct 29, 3:59 pm, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why u use IIS when you can get much better httpd for free? :D
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:58 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have not tried but there are at
Why u use IIS when you can get much better httpd for free? :D
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:58 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I have not tried but there are at least three options:
>
> 1) just run IIS as a proxy and redirect to the web2py web server. This
> solution should work out of t
While we're expressing opinions, here's mine:
Achipa's post is subjective; but I would listen to 10 years of expertise
that formed any opinion. While I don't have 10 years, I can see what
lock-in can do (I'm trying to dig my company out of IBM lock-in).
Besides, criticizing a concept is more
Voltron
This is s cool. Excellent option for tables.
There are a growing number of plugins for jquery which will make really
great interfaces for users.
I realise Masimo is working on T3 but a web2 jquery type frontend to web2py
would really make web2py a step above the rest.
Steve
On Th
Well I havent used appcelerator either.
But I found your opinion very personal and subjective. I am not going
to argue your points at this time.
You dont seem to be criticzicing appcelerator buth the logic behind
its existence.
So you dont agree neither with MS Silverlight, Mozilla Prism, Googl
I have these
http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/AlterEgo/default/show/97
Made by members of the group.
On Oct 29, 2:45 pm, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> k , with the spirit of KEEP IT SIMPLE , STUPID
>
> I will choose web2py-vm
>
> Massimo do you have logo for web2py/?
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 20
I have a table with a firstname column and a lastname column. I want
the user to be able to select a person's full name from a drop-down
list. Currently, using IS_IN_DB, I am only able to show in the drop-
down list the firstname or the lastname but not both. How can I have
both the firstname and
I like web2py-vm :-)
There were a bunch of logo's generated, but I think the ultimate one is just
the wonderful font that web2py is printed in on the cover of the book.
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Phyo Arkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> k , with the spirit of KEEP IT SIMPLE , STUPID
>
> I wi
yes because iis handles the certificates. web2py is transparent to it.
On Oct 29, 3:11 pm, BobS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Will all of those options run using a secure certificate? (https://
> mode)?
>
> On Oct 29, 3:58 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have not tried but there
k , with the spirit of KEEP IT SIMPLE , STUPID
I will choose web2py-vm
Massimo do you have logo for web2py/?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Phyo Arkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> yes .. but Too Simple??
>
> May be KISS is good..
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:24 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECT
Will all of those options run using a secure certificate? (https://
mode)?
On Oct 29, 3:58 pm, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have not tried but there are at least three options:
>
> 1) just run IIS as a proxy and redirect to the web2py web server. This
> solution should work out of t
I have not tried but there are at least three options:
1) just run IIS as a proxy and redirect to the web2py web server. This
solution should work out of the box
2) use this: http://code.google.com/p/isapi-wsgi/ This is the
preferred solution.
3) use fastcgi
Massimo
On Oct 29, 2:24 pm, BobS <
Has anyone been able to get web2py to work with IIS? I may be forced
to run my web app written with web2py on a windows server running
IIS. Please let me know if this is possible.
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yes .. but Too Simple??
May be KISS is good..
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:24 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> +1 for web2py-vm
>
> On Oct 29, 12:37 pm, Joe Barnhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about web2py w/batteries included? (old python joke)
> >
> > I think it should retain
Hi Annet! The tablesorter plugin works well, but my favourite is the
datatables plugin(http://plugins.jquery.com/project/DataTables) I
wanted a solution that did not always make trips to the database
Dag!
On Oct 29, 6:24 pm, annet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have got the following table in o
Hi Annet! Tablesorter works well with web2py. But I would recommend
Datatables. I wanted something that would save my controller from
making to many trips to the database
http://www.sprymedia.co.uk/article/DataTables
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On Oct 29, 12:37 pm, Joe Barnhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about web2py w/batteries included? (old python joke)
>
> I think it should retain its "branding" with web2py, so people don't
> get confused and think it's not related. Some (probably stupid)
> ideas:
>
> web2py
I have used sortable.js once and I had no problem. It is not based on
jquery but it was light and could figure out the type of values in
columns.
On Oct 29, 12:24 pm, annet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have got the following table in one of my views:
>
>
>
> bedrijfsnaam
>
How about web2py w/batteries included? (old python joke)
I think it should retain its "branding" with web2py, so people don't
get confused and think it's not related. Some (probably stupid)
ideas:
web2py++
web2py/os
web2py-vm
etc.
On Oct 29, 9:53 am, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
I have got the following table in one of my views:
bedrijfsnaam
straatnaam
{{for club in clubs:}}
{{=A(club.bedrijf.bedrijfsnaam,_href=URL(r=request,f='clubdetails?
id=%s'%club.bedrijf.id))}}
{{=club.adres.straatnaam}}
{{pass}}
Web2Os sounds ok but .. hmm .. Anyone ? anyidea??
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:34 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> web2os?
>
> You can tell I am not good with names!
>
>
>
> On Oct 29, 9:51 am, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > web2py OS development started. Stay tuned!
> >
>
Most of the best programmers have little creativity (Linux?)
You do have beard, don't you? (I do!)
mdipierro wrote:
> web2os?
>
> You can tell I am not good with names!
>
>
>
> On Oct 29, 9:51 am, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> web2py OS development started. Stay tuned!
>>
>> Wh
Thanks. I will look at T2.
Brian
On Oct 29, 11:39 am, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes in T2. (t2.display(db.tablename)) it gets the record id from
> request.args[-1]
>
> Alternatively given a table and a record
>
>
> {{for field in db.table.fiels:}}
> {{=field}}{{=record[field]}}
>
I would like to display a record in a view matching the SQLFORM layout
and looks but for it to be non-editable. Is there anything like that
available or do I need to create the record display view myself.
Thanks,
Brian
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Yes in T2. (t2.display(db.tablename)) it gets the record id from
request.args[-1]
Alternatively given a table and a record
{{for field in db.table.fiels:}}
{{=field}}{{=record[field]}}
{{pass}}
You may need to customize it.
Massimo
On Oct 29, 10:54 am, bsnipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
web2os?
You can tell I am not good with names!
On Oct 29, 9:51 am, "Phyo Arkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> web2py OS development started. Stay tuned!
>
> What will this be named?
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Phyo Arkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > Ah N !! not Lice CD , i am no
I believe I have three patches pending:
2 from Bill
1 from Attila
I am missing something else?
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I have not used appcelerator in any real life projects and just went
through the docs/tutorials/screencasts. I did use half a dozen web
oriented languages, frameworks and templating systems in the past ten
years.
Hate to be the Yin of all topics, but I find appceletator to be a bit
heavy on the
web2py OS development started. Stay tuned!
What will this be named?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Phyo Arkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Ah N !! not Lice CD , i am not going to infect ppl with Lices (Joking
> :D)
>
> Yes they can be same thing. Live CD OS that can be used as Vmware Image
Dear Massimo;
I will e-mail to them. And BTW , a new version of Cherokee is out !
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:13 PM, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> BTW... They have pages like this:
>
> http://www.cherokee-project.com/doc/cookbook_django.html
>
> perhaps you should send them an email so
Ah N !! not Lice CD , i am not going to infect ppl with Lices (Joking
:D)
Yes they can be same thing. Live CD OS that can be used as Vmware Image.
But write access will be limited in Live CD .
So different deployment will also be good . Live CD and Easy to deploy
virtual appliance.
On Tue
Thank you for your comments.
I like appcelerator. I am reserving time over the christmas break to
learn more about it. Something may happen.
Massimo
On Oct 29, 2:38 am, Dunsun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It would be great to integrate Appcelerator with web2py.
> It would give us a supe
I mostly agree with you, that is why some version of "custom" + your
patch will be in the next version.
Massimo
On Oct 29, 1:14 am, billf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Massimo
>
> I think there are a few issues raised by your suggestion - excuse my
> ramblings:
>
> 1) If I knew as much about web2
Just out of interest - perhaps everyone knows this...
I have a table "lookup" that contains simple values grouped by type
(counties,countries,person titles,etc) rather than have loads of
different tables. In this case, you can say
db.widget.country.requires=IS_IN_DB(db(db.lookup.type=='Country'
Hi,
It would be great to integrate Appcelerator with web2py.
It would give us a superiority over all other frameworks.
Web2py is clearly the best framework for python and Appcelerator is
easy and very efficient way to add RIA and SOA to web2py.
Any plans for the future ?
Thank you.
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thanks though i figured out the issue. i was putting the "requires"
clauses for reference fields inside a []. when i removed it, the code
started working... but thanks anyways bcos it showed me a new technique
nonetheless ..
regards,
saikat
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM, bi
The generation of a dropdown list is triggered by IS_IN_SET, e.g.
db.animal.type.requires=IS_IN_SET(['dog','cat','parrot'])
You can generate the option list from the db by something like:
db.animal.type.requires=IS_IN_SET(db().select(db.animals.ALL))
On Oct 29, 7:08 am, saikatsakura <[EMAIL PR
Hi,
My DB tables are as follows -
#
# This scaffolding model makes your app work on Google App Engine
too #
#
try:
from gluon.contrib.gql import
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