Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Pierre Bernard
+1 On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Q wrote: There's the WebObjects way, and then there's the hard way - - - Houdah Software s. à r. l. http://www.houdah.com HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding HoudahSpot: Powerful Spotlight frontend ___ Do

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Pierre Bernard
+1 On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Mitchel Roider wrote: Imagine - WebObjects - Deploy - - - Houdah Software s. à r. l. http://www.houdah.com HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding HoudahSpot: Powerful Spotlight frontend ___ Do not post admin

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Daniele Corti
+1 2007/11/7, Pierre Bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Q wrote: There's the WebObjects way, and then there's the hard way - - - Houdah Software s. à r. l. http://www.houdah.com HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding HoudahSpot: Powerful Spotlight frontend

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Michael Kondratov
OR: Easy things are easy and hard things are possible. On Nov 7, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Pierre Bernard wrote: +1 On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Mitchel Roider wrote: Imagine - WebObjects - Deploy - - - Houdah Software s. à r. l. http://www.houdah.com HoudahGeo: One-stop photo geocoding

Re: Editing Contexts and Autorelease Pools in 4.5.1

2007-11-07 Thread Chuck Hill
On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:29 AM, Dana Kashubeck wrote: Remember way back when WebObjects supported Objective-C /and/ Java? Well, travel back with me if you are able. A trip down Memory Lane! I'm working with an Objective-C port of the MultiECLockManager. I ran into a really nasty

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread David LeBer
On 7-Nov-07, at 12:32 PM, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: Hm, one might think that if a number of developers are wondering about the same point, the release notes might be somewhat confusing. And that the vendor (and it's respected representatives) might be considered nice if they would

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Mr. Pierre Frisch
I do not respond to shouts. Just look in the documentation. What is deprecated is marked, it if is not marked it is not deprecated. Pierre -- Pierre Frisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:37, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: Hi all, Great to see some JC discussions going on :) Uhm,

OT: whywebobjects.org domain

2007-11-07 Thread Mark Morris
Hello all, (Sorry if this is a bit off topic. I sent this to the talk list yesterday, but apparently activity over there is way down.) Unfortunately, I never organized anything with whywebobjects.org (or whywebobjects.net or whywebobjects.info). I grabbed these back when we realized

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Florijan Stamenkovic
Hi all, Great to see some JC discussions going on :) Uhm, here is my two cents. Let's all do whatever we can to get a straight answer from Apple about the core JC being depreciated or not. Cliff Tuel NOT being the WO Apple person on the list anymore, I do not know whom can be directly

Fwd: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Jerry W. Walker
Sorry, meant to send this to the list as well, but hit Reply instead of Reply All. Begin forwarded message: From: Jerry W. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 7, 2007 9:45:02 AM EST To: Pascal Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Slogan Hi, Pascal, Another entry:

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Pascal Robert
Please wait until Friday before voting, it's easier to track vote with SurveyMonkey than with a mailing list :-) +1 2007/11/7, Pierre Bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Q wrote: There's the WebObjects way, and then there's the hard way - - - Houdah Software s.

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Chuck Hill
On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:28 AM, Simon McLean wrote: J2EE? No thanks. All of this sloganeering has made it very clear why we are developers and not marketers! :-) or you could crib a classic mr jobs comment: Why join the navy when you can be a pirate ? I had not heard that one before, I

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Haris Pobric
Suggestion 1: Woa, that was easy! Of course, woa/Woa could (should?) be capitalized (i.e., WOA, that was easy!). Suggestion 2: WOilA, problem solved!. Alternatively, WOilA part could be used either in standalone form or as an anchor in various, target/topic, specific tag lines. For

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Mike Schrag
Could we stop the speculation and look at the facts. The documentation is here: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSXServer/Reference/WO54_Reference/ .. and also http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSXServer/Reference/WO54_Reference/deprecated-list.html ms

Editing Contexts and Autorelease Pools in 4.5.1

2007-11-07 Thread Dana Kashubeck
Remember way back when WebObjects supported Objective-C /and/ Java? Well, travel back with me if you are able. I'm working with an Objective-C port of the MultiECLockManager. I ran into a really nasty situation because when you lock an editing context, it creates an autorelease pool

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Mike Schrag
I nominate that this thread move to the wo-talk list ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Daniele Corti
why not: The Web is our Objects! 2007/11/7, Michael Kondratov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OR: Easy things are easy and hard things are possible. On Nov 7, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Pierre Bernard wrote: +1 On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:41 PM, Mitchel Roider wrote: Imagine - WebObjects - Deploy -

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Florijan Stamenkovic
Hm, one might think that if a number of developers are wondering about the same point, the release notes might be somewhat confusing. And that the vendor (and it's respected representatives) might be considered nice if they would politely clarify the point (an action taking a total of 2

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! What about the obvious one? :P WebObjects - Cocoa for Web. Yours Miguel Arroz On 2007/11/07, at 18:10, Chuck Hill wrote: On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:28 AM, Simon McLean wrote: J2EE? No thanks. All of this sloganeering has made it very clear why we are developers and not

Static component question

2007-11-07 Thread Shagor Ghani
WOMasters, I have a feeling this is a fairly basic WO question, so advanced apologies if my hunch is correct. Basically, I'm looking to populate a pulldown menu, inappropriately titled WOPopUpButton in WOBuilder, with a set of values, e.g. Red, Blue, and Green. Problem is, I don't want to

Re: JavaEOGenerator and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Mike Schrag
please keep these on the mailing list ... I don't use any JC stuff, so I'm not sure if it works, but JavaEOGen is supposed to be a drop-in replacement (well, except for template syntax) for eogen. I would recommend just trying JavaEOGenerator. You don't need Leopard or 5.4 to use it. ms

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Mr. Pierre Frisch
Could we stop the speculation and look at the facts. The documentation is here: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSXServer/Reference/WO54_Reference/ Pierre -- Pierre Frisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:32, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: Hm, one might think that if a number

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Michael Halliday
WebObjects - Web development for the rest of us. :) On 7-Nov-07, at 7:55 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Please wait until Friday before voting, it's easier to track vote with SurveyMonkey than with a mailing list :-) +1 2007/11/7, Pierre Bernard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +1 On Nov 6, 2007, at 10:36

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread James Cicenia
Yo Love Wo -j- ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Simon McLean
J2EE? No thanks. or you could crib a classic mr jobs comment: Why join the navy when you can be a pirate ? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Jonathan Meijer
Documentation? What documentation? It was hard to write, and so it should be just as hard to read! - Jonny ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 07.11.2007, at 13:06, Mike Schrag wrote: I nominate that this thread move to the wo-talk list ... And one more thing: Chuck is right ... the stuff that comes up here are mostly insider jokes about WebObjects. Ask a marketing person - not a developer. cug, pirate ;-) --

Re: Static component question

2007-11-07 Thread Guido Neitzer
On 07.11.2007, at 13:24, Shagor Ghani wrote: Basically, I'm looking to populate a pulldown menu, inappropriately titled WOPopUpButton in WOBuilder, with a set of values, e.g. Red, Blue, and Green. These are named appropriately if you're not looking from a Windows perspective. A dropdown

Re: Static component question

2007-11-07 Thread Robert Walker
And what is this supposed problem with storing these values in an NSArray of your component? You say you want to store them somewhere in your component. A WO component is made up of HTML, WOD, WOO and a Java class. So I would consider storing the list in an NSArray of the component's Java

Practical WO Demo App

2007-11-07 Thread Fred Shurtleff
I am running the Chapter 6 demo app in Eclipse, which runs ok; however, when the app compiles there are problems (Red X's) next to 3 page components(Main, ElementNames, RRLoop). When I dbl-clk on any of them, Eclipse reports that the Main.wod/Main.html files DO NOT EXIST. Well this cannot be -

Re: JavaEOGenerator and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Galen Rhodes
Does anyone have the relative path name issues resolved yet? Or is that still being worked on? On Nov 7, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: please keep these on the mailing list ... I don't use any JC stuff, so I'm not sure if it works, but JavaEOGen is supposed to be a drop-in

Re: JavaEOGenerator and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread David Avendasora
Okay, after further digging, there is a -javaclient command-line parameter, so the answer to my question should be yes. Thanks for the replacement Pierre! Dave On Nov 7, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: please keep these on the mailing list ... I don't use any JC stuff, so I'm not sure

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread David Marioni
WebObjects ? I WOAnt it ! I WOant it ! I WO-Ant it ! David On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:37 PM, James Cicenia wrote: Yo Love Wo -j- ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Joshua Archer
Since we're just having fun here... 1) WO is Me 2) Tell me your tales of WO 3) WebObjects puts the WO in WOnder On Nov 7, 2007, at 3:17 PM, David Marioni wrote: WebObjects ? I WOAnt it ! I WOant it ! I WO-Ant it ! David On Nov 7, 2007, at 9:37 PM, James Cicenia wrote: Yo Love Wo -j-

Re: WO5.4 and Java Client

2007-11-07 Thread Florijan Stamenkovic
Thanks to all, and apologies as well, last time I checked (a few days ago) I was unable to locate the 5.4 API online, possibly to my own stupidity. My best, Flor On Nov 07, 2007, at 14:09, Mike Schrag wrote: Could we stop the speculation and look at the facts. The documentation is here:

WO5.4 pleasant surprises

2007-11-07 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi there, was just checking some code I'm writing for 5.3 for future 5.4 compatibility... well, just a quick note (to the Apple devs) to say 'thanks' for making public some of the useful classes formerly in com.webobjects.appserver._private. WODynamicURL for example. Keep em comin' :-)

WO54 - New Component HTML format.

2007-11-07 Thread Les Vogel
I'm trying to get the new HTML Components to work, any ideas what might be wrong? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; HTML HEAD META NAME=generator CONTENT=Testing/ TITLEWOTest/TITLE

Re: WO54 - New Component HTML format.

2007-11-07 Thread Lachlan Deck
Helpful log output ay! Have you tried this? wo:WOTextField value = [myVar] / On 08/11/2007, at 4:24 PM, Les Vogel wrote: I'm trying to get the new HTML Components to work, any ideas what might be wrong? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Pierre Bernard
Spiders would use WebObjects ;-) On Nov 8, 2007, at 12:42 AM, Joshua Archer wrote: Since we're just having fun here... 1) WO is Me 2) Tell me your tales of WO 3) WebObjects puts the WO in WOnder On Nov 7, 2007, at 3:17 PM, David Marioni wrote: WebObjects ? I WOAnt it ! I WOant it ! I

Re: Slogan

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Joyner
Not much going on on wo-talk, so I may as well put these suggestions here (WO is actually quite a difficult thing to come up with a sound bite for). I think we should be more directly saying what WO does in as few words as possible. So what I can think of is: WebObjects: Your Enterprise on

[Solved] WODisplayGroup fetches on load issue

2007-11-07 Thread David Holt
You just call fetch() on the WODisplayGroup in the constructor instead of qualifyDataSource(). Turn off fetches on load in the DisplayGroup. The result is a manual fetches on load. On 7-Nov-07, at 3:10 PM, David Holt wrote: Hello all, How do I get a WODisplayGroup's first fetch using