RE: [Webware-discuss] Re: WebFormKit

2004-08-18 Thread Paul Boddie
re are some workarounds. The biggest advantage is that it is very quick indeed. Paul --- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save

RE: [Webware-discuss] A new version is badly needed

2004-08-04 Thread Paul Boddie
ce what code is actually being used. I've worked against both official releases and CVS snapshots of Webware, but you can only make reasonable guarantees of compatibility with the releases - it's hard to even replicate an ad-hoc CVS snapshot, let alone support it. Paul P.S. Looking at

RE: [Webware-discuss] Generating XML With Webware

2004-06-30 Thread Paul Boddie
's methods might still be slipping in as it handles the request. Good luck and let us know how you get on! Paul --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas

RE: [Webware-discuss] WebWare and Cheetah

2004-06-24 Thread Paul Boddie
om inside the WebKit directory to the directory mentioned in that line in httpd.conf (ie. whatever /.../ is), and you'll also need to change some paths at the start of WebKit.cgi to point to the AppServer's configuration. I hope this

RE: [Webware-discuss] Twisted Adapter

2004-06-07 Thread Paul Boddie
ring (http data) it would be nice to cough that down to the > client asynchronously. This would have implications for response.flush() > in servlets. I wouldn't mind looking into this a bit more, preferably with assistance from people in the know. > 3. Am I crazy? Maybe. Not at all

RE: [Webware-discuss] User Authentication

2004-05-28 Thread Paul Boddie
a of uncertainty (with the exception of access control, probably) once and for all. Paul --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now,

RE: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-04-27 Thread Paul Boddie
hey can run the thing. One desirable consequence of better standardisation is that developers can just move on to higher-level issues and stop reinventing the wheel at the low (and uninteresting) end. And one side-effect of WebStack is that it ends up just like the WebProgramming page, but with th

[Webware-discuss] Re: What's in a style

2004-04-23 Thread Paul Moore
it looks hacked together. The real selling point with HTML DB was that we hacked together an application, but the default look & feel *looked* slick. Paul. -- This signature intentionally left blank --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Th

[Webware-discuss] Starting Webware as a Windows service

2004-04-16 Thread Paul Moore
e if NTServiceLogFilename was set by default to something useful (Logs\NTService.log would be sensible). 4. Opening the log file unbuffered (bufsize=0 in the open call) is also useful. Otherwise, it's dead simple to set up and get working. I'm seriously impressed! Paul. -- This

[Webware-discuss] Re: How do I uninstall Webware?

2004-04-15 Thread Paul Moore
rdcodes the path in a couple files -- just Launch.py > and WebKit.cgi, I think, but I'm not sure. You'd have to edit those > files to change the path. Sounds good. Presumably, if I install into a directory which *doesn't* contain the version number, then I don't need

[Webware-discuss] How do I uninstall Webware?

2004-04-15 Thread Paul Moore
ion number) how do I tell my working directory where Webware has moved to? Sorry if these are daft questions - I checked the website and the Wiki, but couldn't see anything on this issue. Thanks, Paul -- This signature intentionally left blank --

RE: [Webware-discuss] Request headers and basic HTTP auth

2004-03-16 Thread Paul Boddie
or Webware and for other frameworks, and you might want to look into the following package for clues: http://www.python.org/pypi?:action=display&name=WebStack&version=0.2 Unifying Web frameworks, particularly when things like Apache stand in the way, can be a pretty frustrating activity. Paul

RE: [Webware-discuss] Mod_webkit

2004-03-16 Thread Paul Boddie
install. You won't need to be root to do this, nor will you need root privileges to install mod_webkit within that Apache installation. For testing/development purposes, there's nothing wrong with this solution at all. Paul ---

RE: [Webware-discuss] State of the program

2004-02-09 Thread Paul Boddie
ing for the Web-SIG to criticise later in the week, if only to reinvigorate the stalled discussions on common APIs which didn't seem to get any further than a ridiculously simple single function signature and lots of talk about threading models. Paul

RE: [Webware-discuss] Re: MiscUtils.DBPool and odbc...

2003-10-29 Thread Paul Boddie
ally want, if you need a DB-API compliant ODBC module. > > I am pretty sure that DBPool needs a dbAPI module to work with. > > So what to do with it? I suppose you need to do a bit of debugging. Have a look in DBPool to see what it does with the keyword argu

RE: [Webware-discuss] Webware sprint summary

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Boddie
implement a "forgiving" XML parser, and that kind of thing is always going to receive criticism in the XML community. Anyway, this was some time ago, and I haven't been on a number of mailing lists for ages. Still, it's good to see Webware moving along. Paul -

[Webware-discuss] Webware

2003-03-03 Thread Paul Jessup
he program work out the total,, and puts the next input box on the screen, WITHOUT leaving the page. Possible? Anyway, if this can be done, I would be grateful for pointers! Kind regards, Paul Jessup --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGe

Re: [Webware-discuss] Whence FormKit? Or, alas, poor FormKit, we knew him.

2002-04-21 Thread paul
ople to validate. Well, I've seen environments where validation is important, and I can imagine that in a business-to-business context it's essential. In such environments, programs aren't casually dealing with "stuff they've found on the Web which might be interesting" - the data coming in has to be right, otherwise it's sent straight back for corrections and the transaction doesn't take place. Paul ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

[Webware-discuss] Domain Name Registration (webware.org)

2002-04-21 Thread paul
f domains, and I believe it to be very likely that such services merely act as auction houses in these artificial, closed markets, milking the punters for all they can - if you're desperate to get a domain, where else can you go? Paul ___ W

RE: [Webware-discuss] Whence FormKit? Or, alas, poor FormKit, weknew him.

2002-04-19 Thread paul
s of PyXML in these "edge cases", however - there was a fair amount of discussion recently about what was needed to use XSLT with PyXML and whether those extra components (from 4Suite) were even compatible with the most recent PyXML. I m

Re: [Webware-discuss] Whence FormKit? Or, alas, poor FormKit, weknew him.

2002-04-19 Thread paul
27;t think it's particularly hard to use certain parts of the DOM API to find, process or extract parts of XML documents. However, there are some issues (text section handling being a good example) which are irrelevant for certain applications and where it should be possible

Re: [Webware-discuss] Whence FormKit? Or, alas, poor FormKit, weknew him.

2002-04-19 Thread paul
MLTools.tar.gz The usual disclaimers apply: if it does anything nasty or undesirable (which it shouldn't without severe provocation) then don't blame me for the consequences. ;-) Regards, Paul ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

Re: [Webware-discuss] Whence FormKit? Or, alas, poor FormKit, we knew him.

2002-04-19 Thread paul
es, transformation of such hierarchies into XML/XHTML pages - are covered more generally in XMLTools. With enough time, I'm aiming to bring those changes back into XMLForms, but in such a way that XMLForms concentrates much more on the integration with Webware (and much less on the other things whi

Re: [Webware-discuss] Successful http authentication

2002-03-08 Thread paul
; and lots of documentation could remove any need for "bloating" the framework with particular built-in authentication schemes. Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

[Webware-discuss] Successful http authentication

2002-03-08 Thread paul
original page to be visited occurs. Effectively, it's basic authentication without the login window (and presumably with session trickery going on behind the scenes), but it seems quite nice and is potentially something like Magnus could use... or implement in Webw

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit questions?

2002-03-04 Thread paul
erying specifications are relevant. Jim Kraai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Has there been any discussion of using the DB-SIG's DB-API spec as a basis >for abstracting support for new databases? There was a fair amount of discussion about this in the last few months, and rece

[Webware-discuss] Re: Webware-discuss digest, Vol 1 #730 - 10 msgs

2002-01-28 Thread paul
ome/httpd/cgi-bin/WebKit.cgi This is with the default install of Apache on Red Hat 6.1, where /home/httpd contains lots of Apache "public" files. Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

Re: [OT] html mail [WAS:] Re: [Webware-discuss] Web client pages for sample Video

2002-01-15 Thread paul
display - it's been over five years since I used one of those clients, though, so this is coming from memory. But Outlook, Netscape or any other mail program won't strip things out when receiving digest mode messages due to the stated textual nature of those messages re

[Webware-discuss] xml.dom.implementation.toxml

2001-11-27 Thread paul
write XML documents to a stream. * The xml.dom.ext.XHtml2HtmlPrinter.XHtml2HtmlPrintVisitor class is initialised with a stream and can write XHTML documents as HTML. I still use the second of these (or at least a bug-fixed version of my own) to output HTML for XMLForms, and it does work with minidom. Paul -- Get y

Re: [Webware-discuss] Passwords

2001-11-23 Thread paul
ants to authenticate using passwords, and whether they want to permit reserve questions when/if users forget passwords, is really up to a module which someone could write for this purpose. But I think it's too early to wonder too much about how that module might work in detail, although we

[Webware-discuss] WebwareUserManager (was Re: UserKit)

2001-11-22 Thread paul
* for Webware first. ;-) What I would like to emphasise is that authentication is something that has been done before many times and, more importantly, authentication frameworks have also been well-covered in the past. For example, the whole PAM system is supposedly oriented around

[Webware-discuss] Release Information

2001-11-09 Thread paul
is it sufficient just to remove the date and to leave the statement of objectives unchanged? Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourc

[Webware-discuss] Installer: Docs Directory Scanning

2001-11-08 Thread paul
ave been asleep while the conversation raged about removing the "trans" parameter from action method signatures in the WebKit.Page class; are there any similar changes likely to arise between now and 0.6 final? Are we keeping the API largely stable during the beta releases? Reg

[Webware-discuss] Re: [Cheetahtemplate-discuss] Overcoming TeX nastiness

2001-11-06 Thread paul
g, but none of them seem to do something as desirable as HTML's implementation. Interestingly, I put a fair amount of work in with LaTeX to produce the paper version of my CV, but I then found that potential employers were happy to print the HTML version and put that on file... Paul -- G

Re: [Webware-discuss] an informal WEP: refactoring webware's package layout and component system

2001-11-02 Thread paul
in a standard hierarchical chapter/section scheme. Take a look at my XMLForms documentation [1] and tell me that without the images you would get the same kind of overview as you do now... or that you would get as far into the document before falling asleep. ;-) Paul [1] http://www.paul.boddie

Re: [Webware-discuss] Europe Goes After the Cookie

2001-11-01 Thread paul
the BASE element in an HTML document to preserve state in this way. Developing a framework which makes this automatic is not as straightforward for the first two cases, at least, given that the framework would need some level of control over the output of servlets. This is where template systems

[Webware-discuss] Europe Goes After the Cookie

2001-10-31 Thread paul
a proposed privacy directive from the European Commission. """ Did anyone get anywhere in implementing non-cookie identification mechanisms in Webware? ;-) Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su __

[Webware-discuss] Debian users: How did you resolve python1, python2 conflicts for Webware?

2001-10-31 Thread paul
cks less than Red Hat's, but then I'd rather build from source anyway - it doesn't take me long to find that the configuration of a packaged version of some software doesn't suit me, thus demanding a reconfigure and a recompile. Regards, Paul P.S. Should this go on the Wiki too?

Re: [Webware-discuss] ImportError in Webware 0.6a1

2001-10-30 Thread paul
changes in WebKit, but I may also raise this with the Python people either as a documentation issue or as a functionality issue. If only I had used repr when printing the values out, I might have come to a conclusion more quickly. Paul -- Get your

[Webware-discuss] ImportError in Webware 0.6a1

2001-10-26 Thread paul
s.path.join(directory, moduleName), None, None, [fullModuleName]) """ In Webware 0.5.1rc2 I didn't need to change anything - regardless of whether I set up a context or just dropped my resources into the Examples directory, it just worked. But on 0.6a1, neither of these arrangements seems to function - I get the above error either way. Is it just me who is experiencing these bizarre events? Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

[Webware-discuss] The 0.6 Release, Distributions and Applications

2001-10-25 Thread paul
ache or whichever Web server is in use. Something that would really be cool would be an online configurator which provides the necessary configuration files for you, but I'd settle for helpful offline programs to do the same job, certainly. :-) Of course, a lot of this is going to be contribut

[Webware-discuss] Module/handler importing in Webware 0.6a1

2001-10-22 Thread paul
vents most bizarre. I'll attempt to post the AppServer log later in the week, along with some more details. Has anyone else had problems with their handlers not being imported? Paul P.S. Hardly any of the PSP examples seemed to work in the new release. I'll try and post details of th

[Webware-discuss] Who is using FunFormKit ? Any alternatives ?

2001-10-12 Thread paul
ough idea of what XMLForms is about, read the documentation and see if it's your thing or not. I won't be offended if it isn't. ;-) Regards, Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ W

Re: [Webware-discuss] cvs update: MK type and value checking

2001-07-16 Thread paul
is the way to invoke them now, although I'm not sure about mxODBC, which is part of the commercial package, as I haven't used it extensively since version 2 came out. Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

[Webware-discuss] Re: Missing FormKit

2001-06-30 Thread paul
sequently, >some components did not make it (FormKit) and others appeared that are not >mentioned. > >There is XForms from Paul Boddie, a 3rd party component for Webware: > http://thor.prohosting.com/~pboddie/Python/XForms.html Try XMLForms, available from... http://www.paul.bo

[Webware-discuss] Re: Session Handling, Timeouts and Cookies

2001-06-25 Thread paul
unjustified, yet some attempts to book airline tickets and participate in other online transactions seem to be curtailed by such demands. Regards, Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for FREE at http://Nameplanet.com/?su ___ Webware-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/webware-discuss

[Webware-discuss] Re: Session Handling, Timeouts and Cookies

2001-06-22 Thread paul
o implement session >> timeouts - I hate visiting Web sites where my session expires after five >> minutes just because I had to respond to an e-mail. > >Then set the timeout to half an hour, three hours or ten hours. Can I control cookies sent to me

[Webware-discuss] Session Handling, Timeouts and Cookies

2001-06-21 Thread paul
applications which have registered users. Anyway, does anyone have any advice or experiences that they want to share on this subject? Regards, Paul [1] http://www.paul.boddie.net/Python/web_modules.html -- Get your firstname@lastname email fo

[Webware-discuss] XMLForms 0.1.4 Released

2001-06-21 Thread paul
an be passed to the XMLForms package as XML document instances (see Examples/instance.xml). This opens up lots of possibilities with XML-aware clients, but no integration with Webware has been done yet, nor has any documentation been written about how applications should be written to take

Re: [Webware-discuss] Content-oriented templates

2001-06-08 Thread paul
re mixed into the XMLForm definition's document element object, provide the means of inserting the appropriate XHTML elements into the final output. These "traits" are closely related to the API used to generate that output; currently, the DOM API is used to generate the final ou

Re: [Webware-discuss] Content-oriented templates

2001-06-07 Thread paul
the only "extended syntax" is the legitimate invention of new elements for the purposes of XMLForms, and this is confined to the XMLForms namespace (the default namespace in the above example). I would think that a good XML editor would be able to treat one namespace as "structure&q

Re: [Webware-discuss] Content-oriented templates

2001-06-06 Thread paul
>is. Of course, it is hard to mix user code and enforce that the page >is functional in this form. I consider it more of an issue of >perspective. Of course, you are going to need useful supporting code to make sure that the data that the page "reflects" is retrieved an

[Webware-discuss] XMLForms 0.1.3 Released

2001-05-25 Thread paul
el descriptions and output templates in order to support sophisticated Web user interfaces through a minimum of developer effort. """ See: http://www.paul.boddie.net http://www.paul.boddie.net/Python/XMLForms/index.html Regards, Paul -- Get your firstname@lastname email for