Thomas E Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> For me it was incredibly painful trying to figure out the "proper" way
> to deliver a Webware based site.  A few nice examples of reasonably
> complete sites would go a long way.

Agreed. Oracle have recently incorporated a thing called HTML DB into
their database - essentially it's a web-based development platform for
producing web applications which do database display/update
transactions. They are marketing it as a competitor to MS Access. I've
used it to develop a simple web-based application, and it's very nice,
but the developer UI is lousy, and minor cosmetic changes are far too
hard. I'd love to redevelop in Python, but can't work out how to
start.

What I'd like is one or more sample applications with:

* A decent look & feel to them (I'm lousy at design, and I much prefer
  to nick other people's :-)
* Tabular displays based on a database query, including paging where
  there are a lot of rows
* A "create record" page
* An update page, accessible from the table display by clicking on a
  row
* Some sort of search page
* Support for multiple tables (either a tabbed display, with one table
  per tab, or a sidebar menu with entries for each table - something
  like that)
* Username/password login

In my experience, *lots* of applications have basically this database
update structure. The success of MS Access and similar tools leads me
to think that I'm not alone in this experience. Having a Python/
Webware sample application which offers this structure would be a big
win.

Given that a significant advantage of Python/Webware is the way that
you can separate logic from look, and build apps up from components,
maybe better would be having sample components - tab-based UI,
sidebar-menu UI, database display, database update, login, etc, with
examples of hooking them together.

Actually, the look & feel side of things is probably the main point
here. It's not really that hard to hack together a table display page,
but it looks hacked together. The real selling point with HTML DB was
that we hacked together an application, but the default look & feel
*looked* slick.

Paul.
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