Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15

2014-04-16 Thread Vickram Crishna
Forgive me for interjecting at this point, as I am not actively engaged with any aspect of this process. Wikimedia is a growing phenomenon, absolutely unique in its demonstration that value can be created without what is often assumed to be an equivalent injection of capital. It has happened throu

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Calendars in use in India

2014-01-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Gerard Calendars around the world follow a combination of solar and lunar cycles: periodic mismatches between the two have given rise to different ways of keeping track of the days. India also has more than one system in regular use, although as Pranav mentions, only one vernacular calendar is

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-WB] The Egg

2014-01-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
Beautiful image! Excellent. Vickram On 7 Jan 2014 12:10, "Kalyan Sarkar" wrote: > Congratulations, Biswarup da! > > > On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Bishakha Datta > wrote: > >> Most interesting image - never seen this before. Congratulations, >> Biswarup. >> >> Bishakha >> >> >> On Tue, Jan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Digital Language Death

2014-01-05 Thread Vickram Crishna
Could you explain, please, what you mean precisely by adding lexical data? An example? Warmly Vickram On 5 Jan 2014 19:01, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > Hoi, > Getting content to the Internet is very much a chicken and egg problem. > There is nothing and consequently nothing is added. > > If we wa

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Thesis defence ( on crowdsourcing - of some interest to the community)

2013-12-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
All are welcome... where? Which University? Which city? (I'm almost tempted to ask: which country?) It really does look like a very fascinating opportunity, and subject. If successfully defended (and one hopes there is no doubt) do consider an article on it, and/or referencing from within other ar

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] A Wikipedia success story to emulate

2013-11-16 Thread Vickram Crishna
Conceptually, this is similar to the effort made in India over the last couple of years, and it is heartening that the failure here is not representative of the end of the road. However, the degree of buy-in from the institution, obvious in the remarks made by the professor, as well as hints of a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [CC-India] Creative Commons India launch - 12 November

2013-11-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 2 Nov 2013 09:26, "Anivar Aravind" wrote: > > Hi all , > > Thanks Jane for the explanation. I remember I am in this cc-india list from 2006 onwards :-) > It is better to announce relaunch as it is in the announcements to avoid confusion . Because we wikipedian's value references very much. al

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Featured Wikimedian profile on Wikimedia India Chapter wiki

2013-11-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
On 3 Nov 2013 09:16, "Netha Hussain" wrote: > > > > All information given on the profile is based on the answers given by the interviewee at the time of interview. Vibhi gave me an e-mail interview in October 2013. > > > "Time is a jet plane, it moves too fast" ... http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Creative Commons India launch - 12 November

2013-11-01 Thread Vickram Crishna
Maybe they want to embarrass Tharoor in a common but creative way? On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Anivar Aravind wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Karthik Nadar wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> Wikimedia India in association with Acharya Narendra Dev College New >> Delhi and Centr

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Press] : NextBigWhat.com : " Piecing Together India’s Heritage One Photo at A Time [Indians Top Contributors to World's Largest Photo Contest]"

2013-09-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
Very nice. Thanks. It really puts WLM in a good perspective. On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:57 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > *NextBigWhat.com : " Piecing Together India’s Heritage One Photo at A > Time [Indians Top Contributors to World's Largest Photo Contest]"* > http://www.nextbigwhat.com/india

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
> Viswam > User:viswaprabha > Member, EC > Wikimedia India Chapter. > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > >> I did that, and returned to the page, but it did not allow me to edit. >> >> But as I said, it is not material

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
pulling my phone from the wall. His eyes, like lights from a laser, burn making my hair stand - making the goose-bumps crawl. " Jethro Tull: Watching Me Watching You (1982) On Sep 20, 2013 4:53 PM, "Vickram Crishna" wrote: > I did that, and returned to the page, but it did not allow

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FDC grant

2013-09-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
I looked at the page some days ago, but for some reason it did not allow me to edit anything. On reflection, though, I did not find anything positive to suggest. I assume the monetisation of the projects is a separate exercise, and must confess I have not researched the purpose of this part of the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Proposal for hiring consultant to review WMIN

2013-09-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
To what extent are the plaguey issues known? Without a very specific brief, a consultant is likely to be neither here nor there in resolving issues in preparation for what lies ahead. Is it possible for the present team to carry out an ABC analysis of issues? At least that way the problems that ne

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Licence violation

2013-08-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
Odd. Look at the page for one of the authors: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/c/susan-f.-henssonow It lists many books several of which are authored or co-authored by the same team members, all of which have the same 'wikipedia' badge on the cover. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill communicall.wordpress

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] End of the GLAM pilot project at BNHS

2013-08-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
As Ashwin points out, from the point of view of a partnership, this was less than a resounding success. However, Rohini does not call it a partnership, because it isn't one. This was a pilot, intended to demonstrate to persons of influence at BNHS what a partnership could achieve for the Society.

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Offtopic : Is Jimmy Wales an Internet Hero?

2013-07-16 Thread Vickram Crishna
Whether or not the nyt thinks he is a 'hero' (could be something slightly different from a Bollywood hero, but I haven't read the actual article), he is now permanently part of the Internet Hall of Fame. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill communicall.wordpress.com " He's still watching me watching you w

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] "Spooky entry" on Wikipedia

2013-07-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
It presently reads: He is alleged to plant his staunch supporters as RAW and IB chiefs. He grew infamous when he wanted to sack the then RAW chiefC. D. Sahay. He began systematically undermining Sahay; he planted his own man, Hormis Tharakan

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Request for an announcement mailing list

2013-05-17 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Karthik I too think we would be better served through dedicated use of the existing lists rather than adding to them. I am a fairly diligent email reader, I feel, yet I sometimes don't learn about activities in Mumbai even though I live here. This is rather the opposite to being deluged with ir

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Wikipedia has a new Favicon!

2013-04-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
Can't help but notice that the user page referenced by Yuvi displays more mature humour than we normally see in these wikipedia discussion fora. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill communicall.wordpress.com "The cameras were all around. We've got you taped; you're in the play. Here's your I.D. (Ideal for

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] interesting news

2013-03-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
While this is not, per se, a subject directly for this list, I feel that as many Wikimedians as possible ought to appreciate the subtle establishment of hegemony here. ICANN is an independent body, true, but it has been seen in the past to act in favour of US interests, in case of significant conf

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-en] Legolas2186

2013-03-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
This has happened even with contract-linked editing of information sources, such as the old encyclopedias. As a philosophy, managing information the wikipedia way has many things to offer, but omniscience isn't one of them. Actually, perfection can only be a goal, not a promise. The good thing (so

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Chapters] Wiki Loves Earth

2013-02-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Noise. Troll. Cease and desist, unless you have something positive to contribute. fyi, since you don't seem to have the time to regularly follow Wikimedia activities in India, many Wikimedians took part in the global Wikimedia Loves Monuments event, without any funding offers, with terrific result

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate

2013-02-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am also not a Chapter member, but for some reason, I am not particularly perturbed about reports, activities and so on. I think Tejas' suggestions are excellent, and made in the positive spirit of building a sense of community amongst Wikimedians in India, be they chapter, foundation, user, contr

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
While broadly concurring with Ravi, I have been informed by several Wikimedians that the office also had to deal with a plethora of well-meant queries and initiatives from external sources, ie outside India. I don't think any of us should be afraid to raise doubts, but equally, I don't think any of

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
I don't know Vishnu, and I have only followed the recruitment process by email windowshopping, no direct participation. I have also enjoyed and admired the hard work being done by other enthusiastic Wikimedians, now in this debate, over the years. But the questions being asked came across to me as

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
the memory bank; ours the interest and we thank you." Jethro Tull: A Passion Play (1973) On Feb 8, 2013 9:54 PM, "Ashwin Baindur" wrote: > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > >> . I had the privilege of attending a workshop session she con

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fw: Re: [A2K]: The Access to Knowledge - Bulletin - January '13

2013-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
I have also copied her, to keep her in the loop (until she is included in the list). I had the privilege of attending a workshop session she conducted in Mumbai a couple of months back, and it was absolutely mind-blowing. Great to know that a way has been found to bring her expertise and viewpoint

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Status of Indian language wikipedias in 2012 and priorities, Telugu WP report

2013-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Jan 23, 2013 11:58 AM, "Arjuna Rao Chavala" wrote: Rather than just the views, we need to look at the value felt by the viewers (may be by an annual survey) as a measure of the impact of Wikipedia's mission. In the absence of such a measure, we are looking at Page views as an outcome. As page

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] Wikimedia India Chapter Anniversary

2013-01-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
The period for clearance of permission to receive funds from abroad in the form of donation or grant (as against earnings) is unknowable, but has been getting extensive over the past few years since the rule was instituted. Afaik, there is no obvious reason why it should take long or be considered

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia COO was convicted felon

2012-12-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Gautam John wrote: > > On 25 December 2012 09:17, Rohini Lakshané wrote: > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/13/wikimedia_coo_convicted_felon > > It's more than a few years old, what? > I think it is very important to note the closing words from The Regist

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia Workshop - 16th December-2012 Pune.

2012-12-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this is a pretty good idea. Already, the stations have the need to deliver 6 month's recordings to the relevant Ministry, as part of the t&c of their licenses. We need to establish a 'chain' to each station, whereby an additional copy (presently, the stipulation mentions a cd or DVD) can be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Academy in Goa in Dec

2012-11-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
Dongles are a good idea for another reason: it avoids getting entangled with the wikipedia security feature against admitting drone registrations. If newbies register using their own dongles, the gate won't be flagged. Of course, the organisers will already have applied for an exemption (and if no

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages

2012-11-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
As far as this discussion is concerned, it does not seem that we need to be much bothered about the history and background. What we need to focus on is the word in its current context, so, Indic and Indian languages, with particular reference to display standards, and therefore the direction of wor

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Wrt the spread of the ivc, excavations have been made in southern Maharashtra as well that show similar characteristics (news reports over the last few years; I don't have references). I don't think that one can absolutely conclude that it did not spread to the Deccan. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic languages (was Re: Spoken Wikipedia for Indic Languages)

2012-11-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Judging from this clarification, it seems that a position is being created that the Indus valley civilisation was the sole active player in the separation of Dravidian from non-Dravidian communities, and that we should shun any attempt to use the word Indic, as that might show unnecessary respect t

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India report - September 2012

2012-10-12 Thread Vickram Crishna
Great. Just one question - do we have a cross-country statistic on per capita contribution for wlm? And a request to list members – please circulate key parts of Naveen's report to journalists of your acquaintance. -- Vickram Fool On The Hill "The cameras were all around. We've got you taped; yo

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Outreach] 1st Wikipedia Workshop in British Library, Chandigarh

2012-08-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
Well done! You seem to have had an amazing session over two days! On Aug 28, 2012 8:24 AM, "Piyush Aggarwal" wrote: > Greetings Everyone, > > I am back from Chandigarh after attending one of the two amazing sessions > at British library. The session on day 1 (24 August) was held by Subha and > th

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Hiring of Executive Manager for Wikimedia India

2012-08-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Naveen May I suggest that some experience in collaborative working be included in the specs. It is not a 'natural' skill, especially not (in my experience) when working with digital media, which I notice is one of the needs, and is not a skill directly rewarded in Old World organisations. No ma

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Plz consider the primary education as a issue of concern.

2012-08-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
The founder of Sugar labs, Walter Bender, will be in India from about 21-29 August (i.e. now) and will speak at HBCSE in Mumbai on 28 August, 4-6 pm, for those interested in furthering the importance of good quality primary education. It is an open, public, meeting. Sugar is the platform developed

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] what is a Monument?

2012-08-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
> > On Aug 13, 2012 11:51 PM, "Pradeep Mohandas" wrote: > > > > > > Quite a philosophical question this no? > > > > > > Apparently, India has an act that defines what are monuments. It goes by the rather descriptive name, Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Sites and Remains Act, 1958. You can r

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer for CIS's A2K programme director recruitment committee

2012-08-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 6, 2012 12:19 PM, "Sunil Abraham" wrote: > > Dear Yuvi and Vickram, > > On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > > > > On Aug 5, 2012 3:05 PM, "Yuvi Panda" wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Volunteer for CIS's A2K programme director recruitment committee

2012-08-05 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Aug 5, 2012 3:05 PM, "Yuvi Panda" wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Sunil Abraham wrote: > > Simply out of curiosity, what would constitute 'sufficient' managerial > experience? The rest of us were hoping ;-) you would explain. ___ Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [OT] Fwd:Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship

2012-04-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
Not at all OT (unless the rules of this list say otherwise) On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 17:52 > Subject: [ilugb] Parliament - Say no to Internet Censorship > > > Parliament - Say no to Internet

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Program-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 29th @ 9pm IST (Outreach & Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hisham, you say you're conducted 22+ sessions. How would you rate the > relative success of each of them? Four people editing on the day isn't > good enough. Long term editors should be used to measure suc

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-in-del] GLAM meetup 1: Crafts museum

2012-03-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
Actually, you are mailing the entire list. The instructions for quitting the list are at the bottom of every email, but I am repeating it here at the top for your convenience: "To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaind

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] India Programs-Fortnightly IRC: Thursday March 15th @ 9pm IST (Indic Languages) & Thursday March 29th @9pm IST (Outreach & Communication) (#wikimedia-office)

2012-03-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Just to chime in with some observations (empirical, possibly OT) about means of communication. IRC is one of those elegant solutions that just aren't everyone's cup of tea, but sometimes because they haven't tried. Actually, it is the nearest thing to a physical meeting, with the same rules of cond

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: India is country under Internet surveillance : Reporters without Borders

2012-03-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mar 14, 2012 11:51 AM, "Pradeep Mohandas" wrote: > > Please mark such posts as off topic. That depends on how OT is defined. We already face internal restrictions defining content, we face 'security' restrictions finding content (re our discussions on photographing heritage structures), and fo

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: eidete - a nice screencaster for gnu/linux

2012-03-01 Thread Vickram Crishna
This is super. Nitika may find this tremendously helpful for her proposed online outreach sessions. We can also crowdsource video shorts: tips and tricks for various aspects of Wikimedia stuff, in multiple languages. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: > we can use this to creat

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Konkani Wikipedia.

2012-02-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
As the old military expression goes, the impossible just takes a little longer. Choose one script/dialect combination (organically, not by diktat), develop it to a starting point, and I venture to suggest that enthusiasts will come forward to support developing the variants. On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 a

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India Chapter receives FCRA Prior Permission

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I see. Is there any time based restriction? As in limits increase over a > period of time? > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishn

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agree with Ashwin. That feeling of nostalgia is very powerful. > Vickram, the case of Nichalp is a one of case. It doesn't happen with > EVERYONE. :-) Thank goodness, too! But this commercialisation aspe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Please sign up for WikiProject India if you are an English language Wikipedian (yes, English is an Indic language)

2012-02-20 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Swaroop Rao wrote: > Swaroop Rao > (MikeLynch ) > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 20:29, Ashwin Baindur wrote: > >> I think we need to contact dormant editors and ask them why they >> stopped editing. >> >> Here is something

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-en] GLAM-India: Wikipedia and NHHM collaboration

2012-02-10 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Anirudh Bhati wrote: > FYI. > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ashwin Baindur > Date: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-IN-PUN] [Wikimedia-in-en] GLAM-India: Wikipedia > and NHHM collaboration > To: "Mailing list for Wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [datameet] National Data Sharing and Accessibility Policy 2012 Approved

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
It would be absolutely fantastic if we can organise ongoing training and sensitisation sessions for government departments in order to assist them to streamline timely uploading of public information. These may also be conducted at universities where scientific research is published, for the publi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
Top posting: yes, *sensitive* spots, not spots of possible connection with *national security*. The police take an active interest wherever money can be sniffed, not only where the government may or may not have an interest. In the former kind of places, one can very often discern an extra-legal au

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Deepon Saha wrote: > Good Idea Srikanth.. > > Deepon > > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < > parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It isn't easy to stand ground when you are outnumbered. >> It also isn't god when the cop reels out a law whic

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-09 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote: > I was told by someone that Wikipeding was a > voluntary activity so high standards should not be expected in > competence. If that is true, then we should not suddenly start > witch-hunting on the basis of principle when we are ourselves so >

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Backup for Wikipedians

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
+1 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Aditya Sengupta wrote: > > Ignore any or all of the above advice if you are being physically harmed. > Focus on personal safety first. > > > -- Vickram Fool On The Hill ___ Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione

2012-02-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
What is rather odd is that the 'story' is written as a defense of Nichalp/Wifione/Wikifone. Possibly some people may have known him personally and therefore the tone of the article. I find the statement "They don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to devote their time to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
Further to Theo's suggestion (inline below) On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Theo10011 wrote: > Great suggestion Fae. > > As Srikanth correctly pointed it out, such an ID would be under the > content scope, which neither the chapter or the WMF India operations have > any jurisdiction over. > > I

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Letters of authority or press cards (was: Backup for Wikipedians)

2012-02-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
I think this is a great suggestion. I know that amateur and even professional photographers (non-Press persons) face endless nuisance simply due the lack of an official looking card. Do we actually have an 'office'? If so, its address on the card would help. Only thing is since probably the 'numbe

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
ation, TIFR where they were >> shown how to upload to Commons using both the usual upload process and by >> using the mediawiki-uploader mass upload script. >> >> Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. >> They helped many people contribute

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-in-mum] Report on Wikipedia Takes Mumbai II

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
s upload script. > > Nikita Belavate and Karthik Nadar put in a lot of work into the event. > They helped many people contribute to the Commons while having a good time, > and they deserve praise for making all of this happen. > > Our heartfelt gratitude to Pranav Curumsey, Vickr

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-29 Thread Vickram Crishna
ion of captions and metadata. Both options have their merits and demerits, for it is not even necessary that every photosession be a PhotoWalk. > > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Vickram Crishna < > vvcris...@radiophony.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 29, 20

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
because it is being experienced. Having said which, the 'we' who solve the issues work within a commonly agreed framework, to avoid chaos and wandering down blind alleys. This list is not part of that framework, it is the place (within this context) where non-geeky people share their gee

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Failure to make the system work efficiently is also a learning exercise. Given that we are hoping to make such events happen more frequently and at many historically important places across the country, we must work to see that wikimedians are enabled to upload images meaningfully, ie with proper d

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Takes Mumbai II !!!

2012-01-27 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 2:55 PM, nikita belavate wrote: > > Thanks to Vickram uncle and Dr.Nagarjuna :) > Hope some 'uncles' will be part of the Photowalk too! -- Vickram Fool On The Hill ___ Wikimediaindia-l maili

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2012

2012-01-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
As discussed with Nikita and Dr Nagarjuna, the HBCSE has kindly offered the use of the Gnowledge Labs at Deonar on Saturday 28 Jan afternoon (2pm onwards; the request was for a couple of hours) for the conclusion of the planned Photowalk, in order to complete uploading/tagging/captioning etc of the

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supreme Court Says Congress May Re-Copyright Public Domain Works

2012-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
To be utterly frank, we cannot continue to think that we must follow the example of the west. As Wikimedians in India, we have a particular point of view about copyright, in this case of works created using public money. Whether or not the USA decides to prevent similar works from being openly avai

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Petition Response: Digitizing Federal Public Records

2012-01-22 Thread Vickram Crishna
Who wants copyright free? We want the right to reproduce and distribute freely, since we have already paid for it. The amendments on the way are a mess, designed to reinforce the rights of restrictive copyright holders. It is understandable, since the political leadership of the nation (of all hue

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Minutes of Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 14

2012-01-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
Hi Pranav On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:21 PM, wrote: > Minutes of Wikipedia Mumbai Meetup 14: > > Coincidentally, 14 people attended the 14th Mumbai Meetup held at Coffee > Bean and Tea Leaf, Bandra earlier today :) > > *Wikipedia Takes Mumbai 2* > > *... > Wikimania 2013 > > *Ansuman, Nikita, K

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia

2012-01-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote: > So I request that we may all simmer down a bit. If this continues then I > would like to join them since I cant beat them. This I shall do by getting > upset about the abhorrent word *baingan. > > *I dont like the taste of Brinjal and I promi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012

2012-01-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
Pradeep: given the enthusiasm with which we encourage Wikimedians to proclaim and proselytise this facet of public service (ie, in fora other than this or related ones) it is odd to find you saying that 'these professionals' (as against, presumably, amateur FOSSers) do not talk about their work unn

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedia India: Wikipedia Takes Ahmedabad, January 2012

2012-01-03 Thread Vickram Crishna
And, just to nitpick: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > Hmmm > I don't know why people are so touchy about FOSS. > If I mention "photographer" or "security" or "Media" or "engineer" instead > of "FOSS", will the reaction be same? > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Srik

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Supporting Outreach

2011-12-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > Probably some bot mechanism will work better. > People may not know the IP address from the venue before they start > working. > > Just setup a page where such IPs can be put up and a bot checks them > every 1-2 hours or so and enables

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
27;t be able to > > adjust to new stuff. They had a tough time adjusting from Windows 7 to > > XP when the rollback was done due to issues with Turbo C++ and > > Microsoft COBOL compiler. > > > > -- > > > > On 12/13/11, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > >&

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-14 Thread Vickram Crishna
ack, and it is very possible that the switch will come with tangible efficiency benefits. > > -- > > On 12/13/11, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > 2011/12/14 Vickram Crishna : > >> Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college > or > >>

[Wikimediaindia-l] OT FOSS assist WAS Re: Webfonts deployment on Indic Wikiprojects

2011-12-13 Thread Vickram Crishna
Pardon my intrusion on this thread, but within reason*, if any college or other educational institution chooses to be 'proprietary only' (never mind antediluvian - IE6? really? or is that an XP issue?) FOSSers are prepared to take it up 'officially' with them, reminding them of the nation's commitm

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
ot;Kapil Sibal is an idiot" , if > you can provide/prove that with "Verifiable references" from "Reliable > Sources" :) > > > > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > >> Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-07 Thread Vickram Crishna
Oh, the mention of 'idiot' on that page is vandalism (no, I haven't done it - yet)? I thought we had a very interesting discussion about current affairs at WikiConf where there seemed to be a consensus that presenting every side of the picture is important. Is reporting the fact that major website

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Re: [Foundation-l] Indian Minister Kapil Sibal wants to censor social media

2011-12-06 Thread Vickram Crishna
I don't know whether a discussion on social networking is really directly on-topic for this list, but the reality is that the provisions of the law as it stands right now are certainly of dire portent for a free and fearlessly neutral Wikipedia and its associated projects. What Mr Sibal appears to

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-12-04 Thread Vickram Crishna
Relax, Pradeep. The confusion/noise is only from the fact that OSM has been a longstanding acronym for Open Street Maps, which is an important facet of Open Knowledge Culture. To be very frank, I was completely unaware of the term OSM for Open Source Movement, and also read Tory's acronym as Open S

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [[Brian Horrocks]] not an Indian FA

2011-11-30 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ashwin Baindur wrote: > Thanks Srikanth, but I'm surprised you come across it at all. Brian > Horrocks was a British general, from the British Army (not from British > Indian Arny), did not serve in India, not involved in any campaign where > Indian troops served (

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IEP Pilot - Preliminary Analysis

2011-11-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
Assuming this question is not restricted for WMF outreachers only: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM, sankarshan wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Nitika wrote: > > > How many students edited articles outside of their in-class assignments? > > This is an interesting and non-trivial questio

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] People of stature unhappy with own articles

2011-11-28 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.gh...@gmail.com> wrote: > WhereDevilsDare, > As Bala pointed out, pages have to be neutral. > Example:Look at any Politician's page, it's always Pro-them, rarely is it > balanced. > We need to have things neutral. > If these guys ge

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
Correct me if I'm wrong please. > +1. Please read the article and view the video, otherwise we might as well be on two different planets :-) And please don't just take my word for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille > --Regards, > > > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:04

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-25 Thread Vickram Crishna
experience I know that Braille is a physically read language. It > is read by feeling the raised dots on a surface. Eg: On elevator buttons, a > series of dots on each button. > I fail to understand how a touch screen display can work here. > Regards, > Srikanth > > > On F

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I do not know exactly how Braille works but if a character in a > standard script can be represented by Braille characters in stead, > then all it seems to need is a method for us to replace the existing > Unicode character with th

[Wikimediaindia-l] Braille/touchscreen integration

2011-11-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
Several persons attending the recent WikiConfIndia 2011 drew attention to the need for greater ease of use for persons with visual challenges - Barry Newstead referred specifically to this need, commenting that in general, usability improvements for persons with special needs pay off for the commun

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Drugs

2011-11-21 Thread Vickram Crishna
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs? What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Let's *Talk*

2011-11-15 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Erik Moeller wrote: > And - to stay with the sandbox metaphor from another thread - if the > majority of contributors to a university-based program in India can > reach won't be able to contribute at an acceptable quality in WP > proper, then perhaps it's also tim

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Noteworthy Wikimedian Recognition

2011-11-11 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > > Do notice that we had intentionally named it as "Noteworthy Wikimedian" > and not "Best Wikimedian" ! > > So what could you and everyone do ? Find them, nominate and recognize > them. > > > +1 > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, R

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wired article: wikipedia

2011-11-08 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/st_essay_wikipediawonders/ Essentially a critique of standards being adopted (mainly by UNESCO) to classify human endeavour as worthy of being noted as 'heritage', the article points to Wikipedia as the logical embodiment of a heritage worth revering: "Wikiped

[Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: [fosscomm] Open Access to Academic Knowledge at Bangalore on 2nd Nov 14:30 - 17:00 hrs

2011-11-02 Thread Vickram Crishna
fyi: Bangaloreans (and the neighborhood) who may (should?) want to attend this critical event tomorrow. -- Forwarded message -- From: Sridhar Gutam Date: Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:24 AM Subject: [fosscomm] Open Access to Academic Knowledge at Bangalore on 2nd Nov 14:30 - 17:00 hrs To

[Wikimediaindia-l] Wonders of the Post-Modern World - Wikipedia

2011-10-24 Thread Vickram Crishna
http://www.sunday-guardian.com/young-restless/seven-wonders-of-the-post-modern-world "What are the Seven Wonders of the Post-Modern World? ... Here is a revised list: *1. Wikipedia:* The sum of all human knowledge. This is only a starting point to our greater quest in constructing the hitchhi

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-19 Thread Vickram Crishna
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 7:39 AM, Gautam John wrote: > On 18 October 2011 17:16, Sudhanwa Jogalekar > wrote: > > > Overall, for just 3K , it seems worth buying considering its > > functionality like internet connectivity, phone calling, various apps > > etc.. Maybe I will go for one more as standb

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
ssible to get one of these to test the Kiwix offline Wikipedia on? > Would be interesting to do some usability testing during the India > Hackathon. > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:39 AM, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > >> "Aakash is probably great value for money. But

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Aakash UbiSlate 7

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
h. > > Best > Bishakha > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Vickram Crishna > wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Gautam John wrote: >> >>> On 6 October 2011 12:04, Nagarjuna G wrote: >>> >>> > This by itself may not be

Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary

2011-10-18 Thread Vickram Crishna
Wonderful. Nice to have the community reaching out to you when you're far from home :-), more incentive to come back asap. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Hearty Congratulations and Best wishes, Naveen. > > Regards > Tinu Cherian > > -- Forwarded message

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