that
these hacks are less complete for Vector, and also more difficult
because of certain layout differences between Monobook and Vector.
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of the scope of
this project: creating redirects is not one of the main things we
expect new editors to do, I think.
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renaming
thousands of messages; this is not necessarily bad software-wise, but
it's annoying and a lot of work.
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a few buttons. The
floating thingy you describe is probably possible, yes, but requires
more coding.
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doesn't break the edit page any more. These
changes are currently in SVN and will hopefully go live soon.
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Brace-transformation? It's really just preprocessing, i.e. the
expansion of magic words and other stuff in {{braces}}.
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support. We're working out the IE bugs and will deploy the fixes as
soon as we can.
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URLs for every other day since Feb 1, 2010. The script
generating this data broke recently, so the data for the second half
of March is probably wrong.
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be adding a Take me back link,
similar to the Try Beta link, which changes the user's preferences
to disable all usability features and change their skin back to
Monobook.
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2010/3/26 Tisza Gergő gti...@gmail.com:
Roan Kattouw roan.kattouw at gmail.com writes:
That's deliberate, the TOC requires the iframe, which was disabled
because of copy-paste issues. We're also not enabling NTOC as a
default feature, so this is irrelevant.
Does that mean the iframe-based
? Also,
software bugs can and should be reported at bugzilla.wikimedia.org .
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that,
hopefully it worked. Also, there seems to be a rogue sever not getting
updates, if it's still in the server pool there's like a 1 in 200
chance you're getting your (outdated) JS from that box. Shift+Refresh
should fix either issue.
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namespace by default).
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but
a version of this list at a selected time, e.g., 2007-03-25T08:30:00Z ?
No. You can probably reconstruct this list yourself using the current
list and the user rights log, but MediaWiki itself doesn't have this
functionality.
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2010/3/25 Makelesi Kora-Gonelevu makele...@gmail.com:
#ca-viewsource { display: none !important; }
You should only add this line and remove all the others.
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with unbounded time/CPU/memory usage. I'm not familiar with any of the
other programs mentioined, so I can't comment on those.
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not happening, so yeah, we definitely want it rewritten in
PHP. If the PHP implementation turns out to be too slow to run on WMF,
for instance, we could do a C++ port à la wikidiff2 (a C++ port of our
ludicrously slow PHP diff implementation).
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2010/3/23 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
This much I know, but is LaTeX actually a regular language?
I don't know; I was just making the point that writing a DFA parser in
PHP is probably not very useful.
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this
shouldn't be a problem at all. Like I said, sajax will be kept around
for some time to come, and if your extension uses jQuery it shouldn't
be claiming compatibility with 1.15 and below.
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There's a difference between an OGG not playing on your browser and an
OpenOffice file really being a .jar with malicious Java code. It's not
so much about stuff exploding in the user's face as it is about stuff
compromising the user's security.
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and try to copy the style from existing
extensions using jQuery, like UsabilityInitiative and LiquidThreads.
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severely break the Squid cache. In non-technical terms: if
we enable this and people actually use it, the site goes down.
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an argument why it's
fundamentally hard to respect Accept-Language for anonymous users. For
the same reason, making uselang persist in $_SESSION also doesn't work
for anonymous users. For logged-in users, though, both should be fine.
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that Squid currently doesn't even support this kind
of fragmentation, but I may be wrong.
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last year
[1], an annoucement of the selected projects will be made on
wikitech-l. Also, we should list students, projects, mentors and
contact details on [[mw:Summer of Code 2010]].
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a limiting factor for anonymous users: we can still
honor Accept-Language for logged-in users without affecting anything
on the Squid side.
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conversations and meetings
happen; these are not necessarily internal or secret or whatever,
just a natural consequence of being in the same room.
Again, as Ryan pointed out, we started out exploring Selenium for
internal usage only; he described that pretty well, so I won't
elaborate on that.
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2010/3/10 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote:
On the other hand, we intend on setting up a server that runs these
tests automatically. Instead of having to pull these tests from a
million different places, it'd
easily be renamed to
/trunk/testing/extensions/UsabilityInitiative of course.
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and more frequently used than providing easy access to tests to those
.3% of downloaders that are actually gonna run them.
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an account with e-mail linked in CR is especially important.
I forwarded this e-mail to Bhagya and Janesh; I don't have ishimatsu's
contact details. Andrew, do you?
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a virtual machine testing against a number other VMs, each
running a different OS/browser.
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in their request. You're right that we should
explicitly bring this page under new committers' attention.
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the
status was Ryan's patiently waiting for the Selenium servers to
arrive and get set up.
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bhagya - QA engineer for Calcey Technologies, will be committing
Selenium tests to /trunk/testing/selenium
janesh - same
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started editing. Should be the time at which you clicked the edit
button
basetimestamp: Used to detect edit conflicts. Should be *exactly
equal* to the timestamp of the most recent revision of the page at the
time you started editing
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developers' time to something and no one in the volunteer
community cares, it doesn't happen.
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the old content
(containing your work in progress) in the edit box. MediaWiki doesn't
know about this, so it records the so-called starttimestamp wrongly.
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parse involving enwiki's crazy templates.
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2010/2/25 Evel liu evel.e...@gmail.com:
but I dont know how to use in my wiki, could you give me a link or usage
instruction?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Quiz#Installation_Instructions
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Domas was complaining about {{cite}} *templates* and their
complexity. Their inefficiency was unrelated to the Cite extension
AFAIK.
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EditWarning only working in Vector is a weird quirk that is indeed
unnecessary. The other Vector-only modules, however, do stuff that's
rather Vector-specific and need skin support (like collapsing tabs,
enhancing Vector's search box, etc.).
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itself has been stable for months. All
the usability work is currently done in the UsabilityInitiative
extension.
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intersections. Only when that
implementation is complete (or at least close) will it be possible to
provide the definitive, specific and unambiguous list of requirements
you asked for.
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saying my message was rejected because I'm not subscribed to
commons-l. I'm not going to subscribe to that list, so I left the Cc:
commons-l out this time.
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be done again this year, so I guess folks can
always go that route.
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template's area (your project name) .so how should I do and
and which extension I should use?
You can use a hook for that:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/EditFormPreloadText
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about what's in these
CSV files or what you want the import to do with them. Writing a shell
script that converts them to pages and adds them to the wiki shouldn't
be hard though.
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2010/1/19 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com:
This means you're still looking at the old Bugzilla. DNS entries
are propagating around the world. Works fine once it's switched.
Yeah it's switched around for me in San Francisco, might take a while
to propagate all the way down to New Zealand.
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2010/1/18 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Hoi,
I had my evening meal ... Lunch is in how much time (approximately) ?
I'm assuming this is lunchtime in San Francisco, which is between 9
and 10 PM CET.
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Awesome, thanks!
Are we going to 3.4.4 then?
I think so, yes, with a new skin.
And whose dinner time? ;)
Lunch time in the office I assume, so that'd be around 20:00-21:00 UTC.
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viewing articles, or editing them? Cutting out cruft
when editing is something the usability project is looking into,
AFAIK.
We're working on that now, yes.
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, there are currently 11 locally
modified files in wmf-deployment, so that'd need to be cleaned up
first.
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removing the modified flag on the
file). Committing stuff to wmf-deployment-something and merging it
back is a lot trickier and should ideally be avoided.
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anything but log in will be
denied to users without read rights.
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for a while, but now it's on all wikis.
Did you do this by changing the backend API action=opensearch uses,
i.e. without (significant) changes to the actual AJAX code?
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EasyTimeline was written by
Erik Zachte but is hardly maintained any more.
More generally, bugs can be ignored and left to rot, that happens. You
may need to poke developers or whoever maintains EasyTimeline these
days to get them to do something about it.
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to people that are used to wikis.
Besides, we would be styling it with Vector not Monobook. Monobook is so
last decade!
I do agree that if we restyle anything, we should at least improve its looks :)
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2009/12/9 William Pietri will...@scissor.com:
Somone recently suggested this to me:
In terms of configuration this lists most of whats public:
http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/
I just went back to look at these again, and I see that link is now
anybody know the best place
to get that now?
Right now, noc is broken and the config files are nowhere. I've been
prodding sysadmins to fix this, will continue doing this more
aggressively.
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easier than juggling between 5.0 and 5.1 all the time.
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and can be designed to avoid the
possibility of duplicate script tags. I still think that this is a
good idea.
I agree; I must've missed this the first time you suggested it.
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and that the whole thing could be rewritten to SELECT * FROM
recentchanges WHERE rc_namespace=0 AND rc_title='Wiki' ORDER BY rc_id
DESC LIMIT 1;
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#The_Setup_File and
put require_once($IP/extensions/MyExtension/MyExtension.php); in
your LocalSettings.php , your special page should show up in
Special:Specialpages.
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Thanks. but is that page_latest is unique in page table?
Yes. Every revision belongs to one page only (rev_page).
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If they belong to the same wiki, they're very likely to be the same
edit. Of course such duplicates should theoretically not occur.
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2009/11/18 Bilal Abdul Kader bila...@gmail.com:
Greetings,
This template is not being parsed on my french local wiki. Any hints on
that. I did several search on google but I could not find the problem.
Exactly what does happen? Do you see raw template code? Red links?
Nothing at all?
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exist in that case. Later versions of MW give a
clearer error message.
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times are correct.
21:00 UTC is indeed 10pm CET and 1pm PST, but it's 4pm EST (note that
EDT is Eastern Daylight Time).
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('wpTextbox1'); I'm not sure you want to be
messing with EditPage's internals, though, because even most MediaWiki
developers think EditPage is scary.
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it (tl_namespace=10 for the template
namespace). Note that the former index can be used as an index on
(tl_from) as well.
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specifies the name of
the file ON THE WIKI, like the second textbox in Special:Upload does.
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Please use other variable names than $wgTitle and $wgArticle to reduce
confusion with the global variables by the same name.
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2009/10/19 Arjun Priyananth priyana...@gmail.com:
Hi,
Can anyone tell me what is the tool which wikipedia uses for file compare.
(in the wikipedia website it compares two history) what is that tool please
It's the standard GNU diff utility, which is available on most
Linux/UNIX systems.
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to guess where it would come up have failed.
If you can grab some examples of URLs generating the 302 response it
might become clear quickly.
URLs with redlink=1 redirect to the page view with a 302.
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directions about when ES
makes sense and when it doesn't are probably better given by people
more familiar with databases than me.
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by comparing two
texts using an external program like diff; it's not stored anywhere
(other than possibly in the objectcache table, for caching purposes).
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not the problem, then I'm not sure what the problem is.
Alternatively, it could be that a blank page somehow got stuck in
Squid. If that's the problem, it should go away when the page is
edited or purged.
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. They probably won't be called anything at all: we don't
really need a name for them.
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This mailing list scrubs attachments.
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dialog with title suggestions for internal links.
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in the latter category). I agree that this
probably causes the weird quirks that make wikitext such a horribly
complex language to define and parse, so I think a good way to
continue this discussion would be to talk about how invalid, ambiguous
and otherwise unexpected input should be handled.
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words
* Profit!
We (the usability team) do intend to get 'content folding' (folding
template calls and tables into stubs that can be expanded at will)
done in the Citron (third) release.
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*wouldn't* *matter*, because the
template call editor could easily be ported to the 'new language' or
whatever we end up with. It wouldn't put us any further away from
fixing wikitext; the trade-off you mentioned does not exist IMO.
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any changes to the XML format.
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to that
template to create the new interface. Is this correct?
Wait, what? Can you explain this better or provide an example?
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about newbies not editing
templates).
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the soup.
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