[Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-09 Thread Pine W
As a part of the engineering reorganization, will there be a multimedia team within the readeship or power users groups? For some time I have been hoping to get Wikipedia the ability to provide interactive visualizations. Also, this article[1] suggests that VR may see widespread adoption in the ne

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-09 Thread Brian Wolff
Im told the multimedia team got undisbanded and now is part of editing department. People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game realm or gimmick realm for a while yet --bawolff On May 9, 2015 2:3

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-09 Thread Trevor Parscal
There is a Multimedia team under Editing, and it includes Mark Holmquist of the former Multimedia team as to lead engineer. The teams roadmap is in the works, but 3D is something that's been coming up a lot lately, so the team should be able to at least make some plans around figuring it out pretty

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-10 Thread Tim Starling
On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote: > People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more > pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game > realm or gimmick realm for a while yet Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VRML, or X3D as it is now called, could b

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-10 Thread Ori Livneh
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Tim Starling wrote: > On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote: > > People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more > > pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game > > realm or gimmick realm for a while yet > > Ma

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-11 Thread Quim Gil
Hi, On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > Im told the multimedia team got undisbanded and now is part of editing > department. > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Staff_and_contractors?showall=1 is up to date, and you can see a Multimedia team there (Matmarex, marktraceur, an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-11 Thread Antoine Musso
On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote: On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote: >People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more >pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game >realm or gimmick realm for a while yet Maybe VR is a gimmick, but VR

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-11 Thread Jean-Frédéric
2015-05-11 10:29 GMT+01:00 Antoine Musso : > On 11/05/15 02:18, Tim Starling wrote: > >> On 10/05/15 07:06, Brian Wolff wrote: >> >>> >People have been talking about vr for a long time. I think there is more >>> >pressing concerns (e.g. video). I suspect VR will stay in the video game >>> >realm

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-11 Thread Brian Gerstle
I'm also curious what our audio/video storage/transcoding/playback roadmap is. IMO it's a pretty fundamental feature that isn't well supported in all the clients (especially mobile). Could probably do some interesting audio stuff (e.g. narration in many languages) for visually impaired. On Mon,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-13 Thread Giuseppe Lavagetto
While I know that doesn't sound fancy or attractive, I think the multimedia team should have as one of its focuses to help with transitioning to HHVM the imagescalers. There seem to be a few issues with that and some support that won't just come out of goodwill, but as a team commitment, would grea

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-13 Thread Trevor Parscal
The team has some hires, and there will be some needed focus on hiring at least some of them as backend/MediaWiki core engineers. This is mostly because we acknowledge the sizable backlog of tasks in that area as well as the need to make improvements in that area to support future work. I'll likel

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-13 Thread Brian Wolff
On 5/13/15, Trevor Parscal wrote: > The team has some hires, and there will be some needed focus on hiring at > least some of them as backend/MediaWiki core engineers. This is mostly > because we acknowledge the sizable backlog of tasks in that area as well as > the need to make improvements in th

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team?

2015-05-13 Thread Trevor Parscal
I think the scope is multimedia contribution and curation. We will be working with the reading and search teams to improve the presentation and discoverability if media items. The scalers are in between, we need them for both presentation and contribution pipelines. For the time being I'm anticipa

[Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-06 Thread Gergo Tisza
Hi all, the multimedia team [1] had a chat about some architectural issues with MultimediaViewer [2] today, and Robla has pointed out that we should publish such discussions on wikitech-l to make sure we do no reinvent to many wheels, so here goes. Comments pointing out all the obvious solutions w

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for inclusion in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. Consequently it will have a big impact on the things that you are discussing. Chances are that much of what you come up with now will be obsolete in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 11:50 +0100, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > On the Wikidata roadmap it says that Commons will be targeted for inclusion > in the second half of 2014. This will have a big impact on Commons. > Consequently it will have a big impact on the things that you are > discussing. Chances are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items refer to "Creators" or "Institutions" they will refer to Wikidata proper. This wil

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Jeroen De Dauw
Hey, This overview seems quite reasonable to me until this point: on the other hand it [using ie dependency injection] would mean a lot of > gadgets break every > time we change things, and some possibly do even if we don't. > I am unsure how you are reaching that conclusion. Dependency Injecti

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Chris McMahon
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Gergo Tisza wrote: > Hi all, > > == The state of unit tests == > > We discussed these issues, and decided that writing the tests was still a > good decision at the time, but once we are done with the major code > refactorings, we should take some time to refactor t

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 March 2014 15:13, Chris McMahon wrote: > This process is something that I think would be of great interest to a > variety of teams: > * When to throw away old tests > * When to create new tests (TDD style, before writing the code that > satisfies the test?) > * When to refactor existing test

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Chris McMahon
Also see Michael Feathers' response to Coplien via Twitter: http://michaelfeathers.typepad.com/michael_feathers_blog/2008/06/the-flawed-theo.html / https://twitter.com/mfeathers/statuses/441598005515669504 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:53 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 7 March 2014 15:13, Chris McM

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread rupert THURNER
+1 If this helps to get it on the list Am 07.03.2014 12:28 schrieb "Gerard Meijssen" : > Hoi, > > When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do > with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that > reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 March 2014 17:15, Chris McMahon wrote: > Also see Michael Feathers' response to Coplien via Twitter: > http://michaelfeathers.typepad.com/michael_feathers_blog/2008/06/the-flawed-theo.html > / https://twitter.com/mfeathers/statuses/441598005515669504 With which I and the author of the PDF

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-07 Thread Derk-Jan Hartman
On 7 mrt. 2014, at 12:27, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > > When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do > with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that > reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items refer to > "Creators"

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gergo Tisza
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > When Commons gets the Wikidata treatment, almost everything that has to do > with meta data will gain wikidata statements on the Wikidata item that > reflects a media file (sound photo movie no matter). When items refer to > "Creators" or "I

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Your assumption is that the metadata from Wikidata will be essentially the same. It is not. Because the metadata will be essentially different, I ask for attention. At this moment in time all the metadata is essentially English. This will be no longer the case with Wikidata. The data that is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Multimedia team architecture update

2014-03-08 Thread Brian Wolff
On Mar 9, 2014 1:35 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > > Hoi, > Your assumption is that the metadata from Wikidata will be essentially the > same. It is not. > > Because the metadata will be essentially different, I ask for attention. At > this moment in time all the metadata is essentially English.