Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/4/4 Dmitriy Sintsov : > I've thought that minimal version of syntax highlighting and some > another WikEd features are in Extension:UsabilityInitiative (with some > additional parameters in LocalSettings.php), but these weren't working > for me in early betas. I will try to update from trunk a

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

* Ilmari Karonen [Sat, 03 Apr 2010 21:30:47 +0300]: > The one thing that's really different and incompatible isn't really a > part of the skin but the new edit toolbar. I had to rewrite my sigdash > script completely from scratch because of that. Also, I should note > that none of my scripts re

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Mike.lifeguard wrote: > > Is there any documentation for converting monobook-ish js to vector-ish js? The first step is generally to try and see if it'll Just Work(TM). Most of my scripts[1], though originally written for Monobook, seem to work just fine under Vector. (There used to be some m

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Bence Damokos wrote: > Looking at the feedback in Hungarian I seem to notice some common problems > that might be solved (or have been already solved) or should be considered > by the usability team. > > Many people have reported problems because the section edit links tended to > end up next to ea

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/4/1 Bence Damokos : > Many people have reported problems because the section edit links tended to > end up next to each other on one line if the pictures in the article > overlapped with section boundaries - most people found this confusing and > some reported engaging in a serious of futile e

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 22:11, Bence Damokos wrote: > Many people have reported problems because the section edit links tended to > end up next to each other on one line if the pictures in the article > overlapped with section boundaries - most people found this confusing and > some reported engag

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Looking at the feedback in Hungarian I seem to notice some common problems that might be solved (or have been already solved) or should be considered by the usability team. Many people have reported problems because the section edit links tended to end up next to each other on one line if the pict

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 09:35, Dmitriy Sintsov wrote: > Hi! > May I ask a feature request: keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Enter should be used > to submit edited article. Such way small changes would be faster to > input, not having to click "Save page" button. Many forums and web > engines support such ac

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Hi! May I ask a feature request: keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Enter should be used to submit edited article. Such way small changes would be faster to input, not having to click "Save page" button. Many forums and web engines support such accelerated submission via Ctrl+Enter. Dmitriy ___

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

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Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Thanks Naoko, Roan, Nimish, Howie we'll look into the comments, maybe we can solve some of the common problems on our end (e.g., some incompatible gadgets). Best, Bence ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.or

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Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni : >> Thanks. >> >> Note, however, that if you add JS snippets, it may make it usable to me, but >> probably not quite usable to many people who don't want to learn to edit >> their vector.js. I've been editing Wikipedia for 5 years and i only created

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Naoko Komura wrote: > Bence Damokos wrote: > >> Hi Naoko, >> Thank you, I think the interest is there. I have been looking at some of the >> raw data from the end of October but a more human readable format would >> really help to get the picture instead of some individual comments (e.g. >> miss

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Bence Damokos wrote: > Hi Naoko, > Thank you, I think the interest is there. I have been looking at some of the > raw data from the end of October but a more human readable format would > really help to get the picture instead of some individual comments (e.g. > missing toolbar buttons, not working

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Bence Damokos wrote: > Hi Naoko, > Thank you, I think the interest is there. I have been looking at some of the > raw data from the end of October but a more human readable format would > really help to get the picture instead of some individual comments (e.g. > missing toolbar buttons, not working

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Hi Naoko, Thank you, I think the interest is there. I have been looking at some of the raw data from the end of October but a more human readable format would really help to get the picture instead of some individual comments (e.g. missing toolbar buttons, not working gadgets/WikiEd, can't find the

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Bence Damokos wrote: > There is also a spreadsheet at > https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aikdcg5HdSKbdDVMM2l2SGM2dUtBU25MLUtTMFEwMFE&hl=hu > > I wonder if the user comments and survey results for the Hungarian Wikipedia > are available anywhere? Hungarian is not included in the nice tables

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

There is also a spreadsheet at https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aikdcg5HdSKbdDVMM2l2SGM2dUtBU25MLUtTMFEwMFE&hl=hu I wonder if the user comments and survey results for the Hungarian Wikipedia are available anywhere? Hungarian is not included in the nice tables I found on usability wiki, yet

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

I would look at the statistics published here: http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey Cheers, Ariel Στις 28-03-2010, ημέρα Κυρ, και ώρα 02:08 +0300, ο/η Amir E. Aharoni έγραψε: > I join Akos - are complete statistics about Beta usage in all projects > published anywhere? Until

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/28 Amir E. Aharoni : > I join Akos - are complete statistics about Beta usage in all projects > published anywhere? Until now i only saw occasional numbers in occasional > blog posts. > The raw data is at http://toolserver.org/~catrope/optin-20100217/ and similar URLs for every other day sin

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

I join Akos - are complete statistics about Beta usage in all projects published anywhere? Until now i only saw occasional numbers in occasional blog posts. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:01, Glanthor wrote: > Hi! > > Just for curiosity, can we know the beta retention rate for huwiki? > > Thanks, >

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/27 Alex : > The dialogs in the new toolbar seem to be disabled in IE8, is this > something that will be changed before deployment? > Yes. We discovered they had new IE bugs in a fairly late stage, so rather than delaying the deployment we decided to deploy them without IE support. We're work

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

The dialogs in the new toolbar seem to be disabled in IE8, is this something that will be changed before deployment? -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Hi! Just for curiosity, can we know the beta retention rate for huwiki? Thanks, Akos ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

At Wikisource, we would be wanting to install tools in batches, and often dependent on the namespace, so we would be looking to gadgetise, or some other readily available means. Also as some works/projects upon which people undertake have repetitive editing, so we would be looking to enable

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni : > I am probably missing something. Is it enabled in the Beta now? Because i'm > seeing the linebreaks bug now. > Works fine for me, but we've had inconsistencies between Europe and the rest of the world before. I did what I usually do to fix that, hopefully it worked. Al

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Max Semenik wrote: > Speaking of Opera, it seems seems to have many bugs causing troubles > for UI, such as . > Can we produce reduced test cases and report them to Opera? After > all, their CTO Hakon Wium Lie

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 20:14, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni : > > > Making a GUI for adding buttons, at least through the "Gadgets" tab in > the > > preferences, is essential. > > > It wouldn't be hard to implement the more popular buttons as Gadgets, > we could do that I guess

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni : > Thanks. > > Note, however, that if you add JS snippets, it may make it usable to me, but > probably not quite usable to many people who don't want to learn to edit > their vector.js. I've been editing Wikipedia for 5 years and i only created > a personal JS file a few

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

The day this turn live, the Internet will become a bit crazy. Wikipedia is a important part of 2010 internet. I am sure lots of people will want to put this skin on his suddenly old-looking wikipedias in internet and lans. You guys are doing a nice work. note: I must report that the window "Add

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 19:21, Roan Kattouw wrote: > 2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni : > > Whatever they mention, i couldn't understand a word of it, and i do know > > some HTML and JS. > > > > There are several buttons which are essential to me and which disappeared > > from the new default toolbar, s

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/26 Tisza Gergő : > Roan Kattouw gmail.com> writes: > >> That's deliberate, the TOC requires the iframe, which was disabled >> because of copy-paste issues. We're also not enabling NTOC as a >> default feature, so this is irrelevant. > > Does that mean the iframe-based editor will not be ena

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/26 Amir E. Aharoni : > Whatever they mention, i couldn't understand a word of it, and i do know > some HTML and JS. > > There are several buttons which are essential to me and which disappeared > from the new default toolbar, such as nowiki, strikeout and some others. If > i had a convenient

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On 26.03.2010, 16:30 Roan wrote: > Because Opera is broken is subtle ways that make it very difficult to > get S&R to work right. We could either enable a broken version of S&R > in Opera and be yelled at because it corrupts wikitext (very bad) or > disable the feature in Opera (less bad). In the

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On 03/26/2010 01:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 16:30, Roan Kattouw wrote: > >> > and the inserted strings? >>> 2) How/where could a wiki customize the special character insert menu, >> The entire toolbar can be customized using site JS. There are examples >> at http://

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 16:30, Roan Kattouw wrote: > > and the inserted strings? > > 2) How/where could a wiki customize the special character insert menu, > The entire toolbar can be customized using site JS. There are examples > at http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolbar_customization ; th

Re: [Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

2010/3/26 Glanthor : > Hi! > > I've read on the techblog that the new UI go live in April. I have > some questions: > > 1) What version? Acai, babaco, citron? Babaco, mostly. The features being made default are the Vector skin and the enhanced toolbar (including the new dialogs). > 2) How/where co

[Wikitech-l] serious questions about UsabilityInitiative going live

Hi! I've read on the techblog that the new UI go live in April. I have some questions: 1) What version? Acai, babaco, citron? 2) How/where could a wiki customize the special character insert menu, and the inserted strings? And the embed file (picture) button inserts this: "[[Example.jpg]]", witho