Those are some very good comparisons... if taken very lightly in the
manner you intended... but to look at some real numbers...
My local cell phone company just announced a $59/month unlimited minutes
plan. You can then get unlimited SMS, web, pictures, etc. for like
another $35/month if you w
The valuation of WISP user vs Cell user are a little funky. These
numbers came off the top of my head and may not be anywhere near
resembling reality. I am basing them on what I have made/lost in the
WISP business in the past 5 years, and what I have spent/seen others
spend on cell phone servic
Replies below:
Zack Kneisley wrote:
Scriv,
I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list?
You bet it is open. Thanks to people who pay the dues and donate their
time to keep it that way.
I think
that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit
rude
I have to agree with this. I am flat broke most of the time and found it in
my pocketbook to not drink the fru fru coffee drinks, stick to plain black
coffee and send my $25 a month to WISPA.
If I can do this, so can _you_ :)
ryan
(ok, ok... so really my wife and Dr told me to lay off the fru
Call your local LMR distributor and tell them to send you a LMR 400
strip tool, crimp tool and order yourself a bunch of those LMR 400 EZ
connectors. Problem solved!
Scriv
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I used to do them that way. Takes wa too long.
At least get the right strip
And even if they do, that doesn't make a complete radio system FCC
compliant... only their board.
Travis
Microserv
Mike Hammett wrote:
I see them. Not sure if they have the papers to back that up.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Mess
That WOULD be awesome
Thanks for the reference.
Zack
On 8/3/07, Dave Hannum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Well, like I said, they intend to put a POP in each county.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand
I hate it when someone says me too, but...me too. ;-)
A lot of the things the FCC has are just silly... like PC with wireless vs.
our stuff. Why a HAM can take a test any joke can pass and then manufacture
gear himself, but we cannot use piece-it-together gear. I don't care so
much abo
I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my mouth is.
In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be:
I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple
in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one
wanting to be a wisp woul
Amen
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
#1 Certified Components!!!
Being ab
I see them. Not sure if they have the papers to back that up.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Doug Ratcliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: RE: [WISP
Scriv,
I can see where you are coming from, but is this not an open list? I think
that denying a person advice based on their business structure is a bit
rude. I'm not sure how this would come across to Robert, but I know how it
would come across to me.
Business research is done everyday by doing e
For what is worth, I believe that the USF ALREADY includes broadband
services.
My understanding is that in order to qualify for USF funding for your
broadband services, you must also be conducting business as a ILEC or CLEC
in that service area. In other words, telephone companies that service
#1 Certified Components!!!
Being able to mix-n-match parts to make it work HERE is my biggest issue!
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Hi All,
The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that
you'd like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like
u
Did I notice on both of those boards, an FCC compliance and CE logo?
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT announces RB192 and RB333
The 192 appe
So I guess his business research that we are all helping him to acquire
is not worth anything? I guess I see WISPA as being worth more than some
here do. I have personally spent $1250.00 in WISPA direct dues payments
(for yearly Principal Membership dues and $1000 for 700 MHz Committee
dues) in
One advice of caution, buy the stripper crimper from the same place that
sells the connectors.
Not all connectors are the same.
for the record, I use electro com and buy my tools from them as well as
the times ez's for 5 gig and 2 gig and the cheaper crimp /crimp aluminum
connectors for 2 gig
Ask a potential buyer of your company what they think about long term
residual payouts to outside parties. If you pay out it better be for a
one time fee in my opinion.
Scriv
Zack Kneisley wrote:
Robert
I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is
impressive.
This is the reason I paid my dues to WISPA!
Info like this is GOLD!
ryan
On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
Oh man. The right tools makes this soo easy!
Call Mark B at ec. 800.525.0173 (also cc'd on this message)
Here's what you want.
Propane torch
I used to do them that way. Takes wa too long.
At least get the right stripper.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www
Oh man. The right tools makes this soo easy!
Call Mark B at ec. 800.525.0173 (also cc'd on this message)
Here's what you want.
Propane torch
Toenail clippers. Scissors type.
LMR 400 stripper
Deburring tool
Razor knife
LMR 400 crimper (don't need the fancy one that'll do LMR 600 or other
With our current program if you are a customer and send me a new customer
you get a free month ($35 to $40 value). Up to 12 per year. If you send me
more people that that I'll just hire you as a sales person! grin
If you aren't a customer and send a customer my way (it happens) then you
get
Hi All,
The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) that you'd
like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to try
to create movement on.
Examples might be:
Certified components vs. certified systems.
Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig.
E
Well, like I said, they intend to put a POP in each county.
Dave
On 8/3/07, Zack Kneisley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand, and making it available
> are still the 2 things that have not happened. Also, in my neck of the
> woods, it is still 40 m
One of my competitors is paying $10/month commission to anyone that
signs up customers for him. His packages start at $24.95/month for up to
1.5meg and $34.95/month for 4meg down/1meg up. He is using Canopy, with
a free install. I wonder how long this one will last... in the past 10
years, we h
Hi Steve,
Can I get you to add accima.com? It's got our coverage map on it.
thanks!
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
ww
I am familiar with this network. Trying to expand, and making it available
are still the 2 things that have not happened. Also, in my neck of the
woods, it is still 40 miles to the nearest POP. The terrain that is between
myself and that pop would take multiple wireless hops. I once did a wireless
We don't pay our referral until the new customer has paid at least one
month's billing.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
I don't think it's bad to use us as a sounding board. If he comes back and
tries to sell something here that's bad. I see no problem with asking
people about products and services they'd like though. That's what this
list is here for.
As for prequal, I'm not worried about that. Even bad le
$10 per month on a $30 to $40 per month account? It is to laugh! hehehehe
One time fee.
If you want a recuring fee I could go for that. It'll be in the $.25 to $.5
range though.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)
Zack,
The Ohio Super Computer Center has OSCNet - a network of fiber optic cable
around the state. They are trying to expand this program to put a fiber
drop in each county that will be available to both public and private last
milers. This thing has an enormous capacity - all but a hand full of
I actually got a call from these guys. The marketing company is about 30
minutes away so Ia sked if I could stop by there office some time. They
said sure and gave me an address. Seems their office is located at a
residence. The funny thing about it is that this marketing company jsut
repr
I am. Have been for a year. ;-) Getting ready to add a second tower,
redundant upstream, new marketing campaigns, etc. Will respond offlist.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Steve Stroh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
The 192 appears to be the same platform as all other 100 series.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WIS
None taken. Our markets and delivered services are likely very
different. Currently we do not profit that much (3 digits) from our
users so its hard to pay that much. As others stated it would have to
be for installed users only, not just the lead. Also, what about
people who come to us and turn it
Travis Johnson wrote:
Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of
the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :(
The 192 (I don't think I've ever needed nine Ethernet ports on one
board) is a MIPS chip, the same as the Routerboard 500s, so in
I have lived in Ohio all my life and I believe I know of most of all of the
longhaul fiber that exists between cities. I'm sure there are some networks
I don't know about, but there has been a lot of money poured into a few
unlicensed wireless links that I have been involved with for a particular
g
Am I correct in reading that both of these new boards will require v3 of
the OS? I have yet to see a stable, production worthy v3 release. :(
Travis
Microserv
Mike Hammett wrote:
To quote normis:
Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach distributors at the e
Mike:
As soon as you are actually providing Broadband Wireless Internet
Access service, I'd be happy to list you at
http://www.bwiaserviceproviders.com.
Same offer to all other Broadband Wireless Internet Access Service
Providers on this list. You don't have to be a member of WISPA (or
Part-15.Or
I am listed with Part-15 and Broadband Reports. What other directories are out
there?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
http://signup.wispa.org/
I have only had one customer (that I can think of now) balk at the install
cost, but he has a referral credit because he has since referred two others
to the service.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: "Blair Davis" <[
I'd pay for completed installs. But not just leads.
Way too many people balk at the install cost or the antenna on the house.
And a one time payment. Way too much paperwork for a recurring payment.
Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor wrote:
Team, Marlon, et al,
Need your help to get to
We would be willing to pay bounty for clients. Would prefer to not do
residual, is too much paperwork.
Don Renner
NetsurfUSA, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Zack Kneisley
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 10:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Robert
I would be willing to pay a bounty, Top rank on the Google search results is
impressive. I'm sure that many other independent WISP's would be happy to
pay a bounty as long as it generated customers and was a fair price.
Personally (no offense Marlon or Jeromie) I would even be willing to pa
Are WISPs going to lose their renegade attitude and attempt to bond together
to take advantage of situations like this?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "John Scrivner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
S
For me, I see it as I will do the qualifying (I can pretty much hit
anyone in the area) one I know they are there. I hope they do join and
this helps all wisps, but I also hope its available to non members.
The main concern I have is that Verizon just build out EVDO in my
area, where as it was not
For me, it depends on the account of the person doing the referral.
Relays get a monthly per connected user, till their service is free,
after that they get nothing. Plain referrals get a one time credit.
Both are done as credits in the next billing cycle. The main issue I
see is how to handle peop
I would never pay recurring commissions. I do not know if I would pay
for a lead from a Google map system unless it was pre-qualified as being
someone who really does want the service. Sometimes people just browse
to see what's out there.
I really do wish people such as yourself would join us
Marlon, Jerome,
so are we talking $5-10 per customer or $5-10 per month commission
payout as long as the customer pays?
On 8/2/07, Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I to would be interested in such a referral program. Spot checking is
> a great idea and could worked right into the ref
Had a group down here in Sarasota making similar claims. All BS. You can
put lipstick on a turd and it's still a turd. People want to believe, they
were in a small town north of here and convinced about 10 people to write
them each 25,000 checks.
The next day one of our old employees got word
To quote normis:
Announcing RB333 and RB192, two new RouterBOARD products beginning to reach
distributors at the end of next week!
http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb192b.pdf
http://www.routerboard.com/pdf/rb333b.pdf
For now, limited availability only, ask for samples at our distributors.
Check out Electro-Comm (800) 525-0173, Times EZ Connectors and a LMR400 Crimp
tool.
>-Original Message-
>From: D. Ryan Spott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 12:23 AM
>To: ''WISPA General List''
>Subject: [WISPA] Tools for making LMR400 "N" connectors...
>
>I am loo
Ryan:
To make the connectors; I use four tools;
1 small Cresent wrench
1 box wrench
1 box cutter
1 small butane power soilder tip
A whopping $3.00 woth of tools.
I only use amphenol brand connectors. There is really no need to buy an
expensive dipole solidering forceps; unless you will have a
You might also look at a proprietary PoE solution, or maybe regular 48v PoE
with a DC-DC (48v to 12v) convertor on the end. You could also look a
solar.
FWIW, there is a 60 watt injector available (Mfg Part #: TR60A-POE-L) :
http://www.wlanmall.com/high-power-watt-power-over-ethernet-injector-
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