Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Gino, You would really be doing yourself a favor to skim through the manual and then start asking more specific questions, but here's a rundown from memory on critical configuration points: (1) Enter configuration mode by typing con and enter password (2) odup on this turns on power to

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Blair Davis
As a rule, we give leaving residentials 30 days on their email. We often get them back within that time. RickG wrote: OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the AT&T DSL giveaway package and is switching. He

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Personally without an internet package I'd do 10 or 15 On 11/6/08, Jerry Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $5/month per address > > > > > __ > Jerry Richardson > airCloud Communications > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PR

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
Easiest $5/mth I have ever made. We have dial-up customers that have switched to other companies DSL that can not get our wireless ad keep thier email with us for $60/year. I have one customer that has done it for over 3 years now. Scottie -- Original Message ---

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Gino, This is from memory about a month ago... but here ya go (the commands may not be exact, but should be close): 1. turn the power to the ODU on (odupower on) 2. set the frequency (freq 19000) 3. turn the oduagc off 4. set the ip address (ip config 192.168.100.100 255.255.255.0) 5. set the mo

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
$5/month per address __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread John Scrivner
I charge $5 per month for email only. Many use the service. I would not give this away for free. If we had something we could monetize for ads on our web based mail then we would probably give email away for free but I do not know how to do that. Anyone have luck making money from ads on web based

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Yep. Thats why many folks use a lower gain for their sectors and omnis. - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage > 16dB by 120* won't have much o

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread RickG
I agree on the possibility of them coming back and will probably do it for him but I hate to use resources for someone using the competition no matter how small. While email calls are not high on the list, they do call. In fact, the ones using other networks to get to the email call the most. Thank

Re: [WISPA] informing customers of internal issues

2008-11-05 Thread Eje Gustafsson
If you allow established communications but not new communications before your blocks then your users will never know that you are blocking all new communications from those IP spaces because when they request communication to one of those IPs they will get the responds back. / Eje CTO WISP-Route

[WISPA] informing customers of internal issues

2008-11-05 Thread RickG
A few weeks ago we has a DOS attack from an Asian network. I quickly blocked the whole range addresses and the issue went away. Apparently, the range contained some web hosts with sites that are visited by one of my customers. I found this out when they asked for assistance. I unblocked the range a

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Gino Villarini
Im going to do this early am tomorrow, Could you send me a checklist of items to configure? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad

Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Brad Belton
Don't bother with the web interface. Skim through the manual and do all configuration and management from the CLI. As for the not accepting the freq/channel...you either don't have the ODU powered up or you are trying to set a freq the ODU doesn't support. I can be available if you are still hav

[WISPA] Trango Giga Link provisioning setup

2008-11-05 Thread Gino Villarini
anyone can provide me with a list of basic setup for the Gigalinks? for some reason its not accpeting my rf configuration ( freq and channel size) I also just discovered i needed to turn on the odu via CLI ... Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.2

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We have a $25 per year email only option. They can keep their email address forever for all I care. AND, this makes it all that much easier for them to come back to use someday. marlon - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, No

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That's going to depend totally on where you are at. There are LOTS of options out here. But I don't have any towers strong enough to hold them up. Can't use it. marlon - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Wednesday, November 0

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
16dB by 120* won't have much of a vertical pattern will it? I'd guess less than 10*. marlon - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage > No but they

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Since we run our own e-mail server the cost is minimal. But we still charge $5/mo for e-mail only (we offer web mail, imap, pop3, spam filtering (user controlled) as well virus filtering, web calendar with option for calendar & contacts syncing with Outlook, Windows Mobile devices and Blackberries)

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread cam
We offer a e-mail forwarding service, however this can be a problem, unless you check mail before forward, you will also forward all the spam to the new provider and this can sometimes lead to getting blocked by the new host which in turn could screw up your other users. -Cam > OK guys. I've neve

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I hope this is all done at low power and indoors! Go get a couple of western multiplex tsunami radios. I think there are only three channel plans for you to have to deal with. Should be plenty of them out there these days. The cell companies are upgrading to licensed like crazy around here. m

Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I think we keep it alive for $5/month. - Original Message - From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] cancelled customer email > OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. > I've go

[WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-05 Thread RickG
OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the AT&T DSL giveaway package and is switching. He asked if he could pay a small monthly rate to keep his email addresses for a few months until he gets the word out. My first re

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
A few years ago, Mikrotik's routerboard 500 units, when running off 48v PoE, would generate a +30db noise between 140-149mhz. The regional 911 uses that frequency for dispatch and communication. They were not impressed, and neither were we. Mikrotik never acknowledged the problem (and even dele

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
? - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... We brought down E911 service on a tower 100ft away from our tower with a $150 Mikrotik b

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Harris Constellation full hot standby with space diversity is spendy. Does any of the Trango stuff do OC-3 or DS-3 native? We cannot put SS7 A links on IP based technology. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:49 PM

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
We brought down E911 service on a tower 100ft away from our tower with a $150 Mikrotik board... so that isn't much of a reason either. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: So I guess satellite earth station minimum size requirements would really make a barrier to entry. I think we had

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
I believe all of Trango's licensed equipment (6ghz, 11ghz, 18ghz, 23ghz) is the same price. Travis Microserv Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: Moreover, 6 GHz hardware is my most expensive stuff. I can get 11 GHz dragonwave at a much lower cost and it will do more than 6 GHz for most applications

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Oh, and don't discount the on line day traders, poker players and ebayers that are losing those thousands and thousands. I openly laughed at one day trader that complained, this was back in the early days of our venture and he said he had already lost $2600 that morning. I told him to go lease

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We actually (used to ) address this very subject in a faq page about our service where we say we will be unmoved by tearful pleas and threats about how much the outage is costing them. We also tell them if it that important, they need to be on some other type of infrastructure, perhaps with ro

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: >Shouldn't the standard for critical life safety infrastructure be a >bit higher than that used to surf porn? If you've ever manned the phones during an outage, you'd understand that internet access IS that critical. Either a customer is paying $29.

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Moreover, 6 GHz hardware is my most expensive stuff. I can get 11 GHz dragonwave at a much lower cost and it will do more than 6 GHz for most applications. Plus have all the perqs of license and exclusivity etc. - Original Message - From: "Brad Belton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Brad Belton
Tom, Off the top of my head my guess is the difference is going to be much greater than 1* between 3' and 6' antennas. Probably two to three times that and yes, that does make a big difference. While the 11Ghz "secondary" license is available it would probably never be allowed on our network.

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
So I guess satellite earth station minimum size requirements would really make a barrier to entry. I think we had to have a 21 foot dish minimum for an inmarsat uplink... By the same logic should I be pissed at that requirement? If you interfere with my 6 GHz system, E-911 links die, critical air

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Interesting Why a FCC attorney instead of the typical Freq Coordination Engineering companies? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, Novem

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
> Tom... isn't putting a barrier to entry the point? No. Not when I'm the one that gets prevented from using the spectrum due to the barrier to entry. > Telco's (like Chuck) use > 6GHz all the time because they own the towers and build them to support > the > dishes. Thats great for him. But

Re: [WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Goicoechea
We make and sell the aluminum ones. Hit me off list if you need more info. Thanks, Mike Goicoechea -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I like the plastic feet sold by Streakwave, Titan Wireless, etc On 11/5/08, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Where is everyone getting metal standoffs for mounting Routerboards on > the backplates? We would prefer metal ones, with nuts on the back and > then machine threaded scr

Re: [WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread Blair Davis
Yes.  was a short from a nut to the backplate. Doug Ratcliffe wrote: We're a computer store so we have zillions of those little threaded metal standoffs used for computer motherboards. I believe Cyberguys sells them in bulk as well, and we just buy the nuts for them from a local hardware

Re: [WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread Blair Davis
we use 4-40 machine screws with 2 nuts and a nylon spacer. screw backplate nut nylon spacer board nut works well.  locktite the nut on the backplate I like your idea a bit better, but I've not had the time to dig for them and what we have works well. Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Where is

Re: [WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
I had a computer motherboard do that to me... It was a grounding issue of some sort I later figured out Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:52 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We have an FCC attorney in Virginia do it for us. - Original Message - From: "Randy Cosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today... > Speaking of that, who do you us

Re: [WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
We're a computer store so we have zillions of those little threaded metal standoffs used for computer motherboards. I believe Cyberguys sells them in bulk as well, and we just buy the nuts for them from a local hardware store. Just do a search for "standoff". Anyone seen a case where routerboa

[WISPA] standoffs

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Where is everyone getting metal standoffs for mounting Routerboards on the backplates? We would prefer metal ones, with nuts on the back and then machine threaded screws. Or, if there is something better, let me know. thanks, Travis Microserv ---

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread 3-dB Networks
Tom... isn't putting a barrier to entry the point? Telco's (like Chuck) use 6GHz all the time because they own the towers and build them to support the dishes. Didn't At&T almost exclusively use 6GHz for most of their towers? I know the reason the 11GHz rules were relaxed was because the smaller

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Randy Cosby
Speaking of that, who do you use for your FCC licensing/coordination on these links, or do you do it in-house? Randy Chuck McCown - 2 wrote: > There is a ton of licensed 6 GHz systems already deployed. They make you > use a larger antenna so the beamwidth is narrower. I allows more frequency

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
There is a ton of licensed 6 GHz systems already deployed. They make you use a larger antenna so the beamwidth is narrower. I allows more frequency reuse due to lower sidelobes and less footprint. We are in a rural area and sometimes they have a hard time finding us a pair of 50 MHz channels

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Ok, that opens up a useful conversation. Why is that? 11Ghz and 18Ghz have plenty of free channels with 2-4ft antennas.allowed. I don't see anywhere near as many 6ft antennas hanging on towers as I do 2-4ft antennas, inferring that the concept of larger antenna is not translating to larger d

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Brad Belton
As much as I'd love to be able to use smaller antennas than 6' with 6GHz that is a real bad idea. It's hard enough finding an available 6GHz freq pair in some areas today. Allowing smaller antennas would likely mean even fewer available freq pairs. Best, Brad -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Brian Webster
That's my point, the noise will be much lower in these bands if things are deployed in a sane way. Wimax gear has receive sensitivity in the -93 to -98 range and from the reports I have heard, works very well at those levels. While a WISP may be trying to set a network up for max modulation, the FC

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes. A bettter use of time and spectrum is to fight for smaller antennas to be allowed on 6Ghz. Sorta like what was jsut done to 11Ghz. The 6ft requirement is a preventer for many. But that argument doesn;t hold for Whitespace as Whitespace antennas would be bigger.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wire

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
> I would say that -90 should be a safe signal > level to use and still have good modulation rates. I'm a little confused on that statement. With our Aperto live testing a few years back (pre-wimax), the best modulation we could get was qam16 at the -85 levels. And that was before considering th

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
To use this alignment mode on a ptp link would you do that on ap or station side? Brian Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Jon Langeler wrote: 1. Anyone know a good way (maybe using linux, windows, or Mikrotik software) to get the cards to transmit fairly constant without

[WISPA] SR2 overload

2008-11-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Does anyone know at what signal level and SR2 card would become "overloaded" on the receiver? I can't find that spec on their datasheet. We have a customer on an AP that has a -27 RSSI and this AP is acting very strange. It's been this way for over a month with no issues, but the weather j

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown
I would suggest a noise generator. Here is an article on a do it yourself unit. http://www.ham-radio.com/sbms/sd/nfsource.htm Using a noise generator that is pretty flat and a spectrum analyzer is one of the easiest ways to tune filters if you don't have a sweep generator. - Original Messag

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Chuck McCown
No but they will be about 20 feet high for an H pol 600 MHz slotted waveguide 16 dBi 120 degree sector. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage >I c

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik: how to restore backups to "identical" hardware

2008-11-05 Thread D. Ryan Spott
If we could get a "cisco-like" restore-from-text-file system it would be perfect! ryan Scott Reed wrote: > Backup does require nearly identical equipment. > I have some scripts that I use to export the parts that change, rather > than the entire configuration. > The problem with export is that

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Website FCC Press Release and Commissioner Comments

2008-11-05 Thread Charles Wyble
Rick Harnish wrote: > http://www.wispa.org/?p=311 > Does anyone have a link to the report and order? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ ---

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik: how to restore backups to "identical" hardware

2008-11-05 Thread David E. Smith
Scott Reed wrote: > Backup does require nearly identical equipment. Not a problem; we really only use two or three boards here, and spares generally are readily available. The problem is, I want to make this simple enough for the receptionist to do. "Go edit a bunch of MAC addresses from this 5

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik: how to restore backups to "identical" hardware

2008-11-05 Thread Scott Reed
Backup does require nearly identical equipment. I have some scripts that I use to export the parts that change, rather than the entire configuration. The problem with export is that it saves MAC addresses on interfaces. If you just delete the mac=xxx part of the interfaces, you can usually

[WISPA] Mikrotik: how to restore backups to "identical" hardware

2008-11-05 Thread David E. Smith
My network has a couple dozen RouterOS systems (mostly small RouterBoards) doing a number of jobs, from "simple routing and DHCP server" to "this is a vital backhaul link." I kinda know my way around networking concepts, so should a board fail, replacing it is easy enough. And none of our confi

Re: [WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Jon Langeler wrote: >1. Anyone know a good way (maybe using linux, windows, or Mikrotik >software) to get the cards to transmit fairly constant without >having to have them connect to an SM/AP? You can use alignment mode in Mikrotik. Just set up the MT as the transmitter s

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread jp
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 06:50:45AM -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > Hmmm > > Just for fun I ran the numbers at 600mhz. > > 20 dB tx from the radio, 16dB tx antenna (probably not at all reasonable due > to size and small 50ish* coverage) to a 10 dB cpe antenna. -80 at 50 miles! > > Same thing

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I could see 16 dB sectors. Of course they will be large, but that's what it takes at these frequencies. We'll have antennas the same size as the broadcast TV antennas are now (I've seen some over 40' tall). Hopefully a manufacturer can work something out with regards to not having to have 4x

[WISPA] Another feather in the hat of providers of unlimited service

2008-11-05 Thread Patrick Nix Jr.
AT&T to start trialing bit caps. Maybe this will give us some leverage in DSL saturated markets. http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/153301/atandt_trialing_dsl _bandwidth_caps.html __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 htt

[WISPA] 5GHz signal generator? maybe a poor mans SG?

2008-11-05 Thread Jon Langeler
We're in need of a 5-6GHz signal generator to simultaneously span a large portion of the 5GHz band to roughly tune some RF filters. Right now we're using some 802.11a cards we're having to link them up and do bandwidth tests to get them to 'fill up' on a Rhode&Swartz SA (I suppose it's an expec

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hmmm Just for fun I ran the numbers at 600mhz. 20 dB tx from the radio, 16dB tx antenna (probably not at all reasonable due to size and small 50ish* coverage) to a 10 dB cpe antenna. -80 at 50 miles! Same thing with an 8dB (say omni) would be 20 miles at -80. The sad part though? We can do t

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Brian Webster
Obviously we are still speculating here because the rules are certainly not clear. With technology development and the results I am hearing from those who are using WiMax equipment, I would say that -90 should be a safe signal level to use and still have good modulation rates. To assume T

[WISPA] FCC Adopts Rules For Unlicensed Use of Television White Spaces.

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
11/4/08 FCC Adopts Rules For Unlicensed Use of Television White Spaces. News Release: Word | Acrobat Martin Statement: Word | Acrobat Copps Statement: Word | Acrobat Adelstein Statement: Word | Acrobat Tate Statement: Word | Acrobat McDowell Statement: Word | Acrobat -- Mike Hammett Intel

Re: [WISPA] SR5 vs. XR5

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
That's because of the Atheros chipset at heart. The SR and CM9 cards use the 5004 chipset, the XR and other radios such as the R52 use the 5006 chipset. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "cw

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I chose -80 because in current operations, anything less isn't really utilizing the available spectrum. I try to engineer all of my links for full modulation. Anything less is a waste. I know -80 isn't full modulation, but it's not far away. Perhaps with more clean spectrum, receivers will

Re: [WISPA] My mistake- WE WON!!!!!

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
(Possibly correcting things I said earlier.) The only official mention of power limits is 40 mW for adjacent channel use and higher power in non-adjacent channels. This on Page 2 of Commissioner Tate's statements. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Brian Webster
I would imagine you will be able to have receive signals down to almost -95 or -98 dBm. Remember this should be relatively clean spectrum (and hopefully stay that way). According to Sascha the current white space devices that were in testing were supposed to receive signals 30 db below the signal r

Re: [WISPA] My favorite quotes from the FCC TVWS meeting today...

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I can't understand why there's all this discussion of PtP... aren't there already MANY bands established for PtP, including some (6 GHz) that have quite some range to them? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

[WISPA] Theoretical TVWS coverage

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Based on TV antenna, it looks like the largest gain CPE will be around 10 dB for all but the lowest of frequencies. I just ran a Radio Mobile coverage area using a guesstimate at a white spaces system... EIRP of 20 dBm, 16 dBi sector, 10 dBi CPE, -80 dBm minimum allowed receive. The range was

Re: [WISPA] p2p blocking, throttling, mikrotik

2008-11-05 Thread Josh Luthman
I really like the mangle and queue tree idea, too. My template is a bit different (as is everyones =) but the principle remains. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --