[WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Marco Coelho
Monday Funny Use mozilla firefox and go to: https://whitehouse.gov It gives you an Untrusted Error... No shit Sherlock! Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Haha - too funny!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Funny Website Error Monday Funny Use mozilla firefox and go to:

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Cameron Crum
Even the computers know On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Haha - too funny!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:16 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread DJ Anderson
Scary thought isn’t it. Lol -DJ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Cameron Crum *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 10:27 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error Even the computers know On Mon, Aug 30, 2010

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
They forgot to redirect to match their cert. Greg On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Even the computers know On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Haha - too funny!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150') with power that's able to adjust down to where it doesn't burn up radios. Has to mount outside, and no, there's no way to run Ethernet or fiber in this situation. Bandwidth is not that big of a deal - 3-6meg will be more than

[WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Whats the IP's to block so my customers can't use Netflix and Hulu. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:07, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. It would be just about impossible to do. Netflix uses Akamai, and Hulu uses a mixture of Akamai and Limelight for content delivery services. These are

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:07 -0400, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Whats the IP’s to block so my customers can’t use Netflix and Hulu. Blocking netflix by IP will block a LOT more than just netflix because their content is not coming from just their servers. Hulu uses a Macromedia Flash port (TCP

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Yeah. And don't fear. The Cyber Security Agency is going to keep the world safe.. Too Funny -B- Greg Ihnen wrote: They forgot to redirect to match their cert. Greg On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Even the computers know On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM,

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread RickG
You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: Need something that will go a very short distance (less than 150’) with power that’s able to adjust down to where it doesn’t burn up radios. Has to mount

[WISPA] FTTH Show

2010-08-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Anyone here going to this show? http://www.ftthconference.com/FTTH10/public/enter.aspx Still deciding whether I should go or not. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
150'? Would't the Loco be better? It's a little less sensitive too on RX which might help prevent picking up interference, reflections etc. Greg On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:08 PM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Yes, clear LOS. Considered the Nanostations. Prefer a Mikrotik solution though. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 11:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Dennis Burgess
I shot you some prices, that was RouterOS. ;) --- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ LIVE

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Bret Clark
Mikrotik would work too...worst case you put them off center a bit to help degrade signal if they are too hot. On 08/30/2010 12:43 PM, Jason Hensley wrote: Yes, clear LOS. Considered the Nanostations. Prefer a Mikrotik solution though. *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread RickG
Ya, but I like the extra bells whistles on the NS2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: 150'? Would't the Loco be better? It's a little less sensitive too on RX which might help prevent picking up interference, reflections etc. Greg On Aug 30, 2010, at

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP's just for the customers that are abusing the service. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:47, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP’s just for the customers that are abusing the service. If you mean that they're abusing your service, you'll have to clarify what that means - the customer pays for bits to be

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Never used the Loco's or Nano's, so forgive me for my ignorance on this, but will the power on these go down to something like 5db or so? Have run into a challenge on some other radios that won't go below 17db, and that level would be WAY too hot for this distance. Thanks!

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Yes. All the Ubiquiti stuff will. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.com wrote: Never used the Loco’s or Nano’s, so forgive me for my ignorance on this, but will the

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Michael Baird
Just contact Akamai, and give them your AS #, if you are using any amount of bandwidth they will colocate in your facilities (for free), so you can serve much of the Akamai content locally. Regards Michael Baird Whats your thoughts on blocking limelight IP's just for the customers that are

Re: [WISPA] Charging for business setup

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
What are you guys charging in MTU installations? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/28/2010 1:41 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Do Comcast, ATT, etc. charge for setup\install on business lines? I got MRCs off their web sites, but not NRCs. I have

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I just learned that with new firmware, UBNT just added support for multiple IP addresses on an interface. We were wanting that alot... - Original Message - From: RickG To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
The Nanos have a hard time adjusting power down that far, though. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 11:38 AM, RickG wrote: You didnt mention if clear LOS or not. If so, Nanostation2. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jason Hensley

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
You need it if you have your own IP space, for BGP. If you don't own your OWN public IPs, then you don't have one. - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Justin Wilson
AS # is for BGP advertisements. Akamai has a program for ISPs who use a good deal of bandwidth to their network. http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_program.html Basically you give them your AS (you have to be multi homed) and they see if you meet the minimum bandwidth to their

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_system_(Internet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_system_%28Internet%29 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 12:15 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Chuck Profito
Then you have to have two, client and ap . if you are only going thru say one wall, how about a single ruckus, the packman one. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#five - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 12:15 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Interesting, whats an AS# ? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Not necessarily. You can do BGP with provider assigned space as opposed to provider independent space. You need BGP to properly utilize multiple providers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 12:15 PM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: You need it

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Wall shot is not workable either. These are old buildings that 2.4 does not penetrate at all (and 900 is out of the question) - we've already tried because the cable runs are just a real big pain!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Is there Coax or POTS in the building? A couple of Etherther Extenders can take care of difficult cable runs. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Olsen
Not sure where I heard it (Here I think..) but the magic number is something like 75Mb/s sustained. So unless you have a few thousand customers, Your most likely quite below that level. Blocking a CDN could be a big problem. You never know how much of the worlds content is CDN based till you do

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Chuck Profito
2 Picos then From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jason Hensley Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation Wall shot is not workable either. These are old buildings that

[WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Any feedback on these at 5 Ghz would be appreciated WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
You could do thru the window if possible ? Or.. use the UBNT Loco's... and turn the power down all the way down. (Loco or LocoM and your favorite frequency ) plus if the signal is too hot, then you can tilt them to face the ground... Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Not in this case. Cables are already run so we're good there. Thanks though! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio

Re: [WISPA] Close range radio recommendation

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
You could put 100' of cheap RG58 cable between the radio and the antenna... at 5800MHz gives you something like 31dB loss... - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Close range radio

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
What kind of feed back are you looking for ? They work great, they have a couple of specifics, listed in the spec sheets that you should be aware off... but no show stoppers. (they have built-in electrical downtilt, and the antenna sectors are speced at 6db, the 90 degree pannels are not

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
OH NO! https://foxnews.com Who are we doing to trust now??? :^) Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 8/30/2010 10:44 AM, Bob Moldashel wrote: Yeah. And don't fear. The Cyber Security Agency is going to keep the world safe.. Too Funny -B- Greg Ihnen wrote: They forgot

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
No kidding... https://vistabeam.com -Kristian On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 12:10 -0600, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: OH NO! https://foxnews.com Who are we doing to trust now??? :^) Matt Larsen mlar...@vistabeam.com On 8/30/2010 10:44 AM, Bob Moldashel wrote: Yeah. And don't

Re: [WISPA] FTTH Show

2010-08-30 Thread Francois Menard
I was there last year and you would want to go if you have an interest in deploying FTTH. On 2010-08-30, at 12:39 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Anyone here going to this show? http://www.ftthconference.com/FTTH10/public/enter.aspx Still deciding whether I should go or not. Matt

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. The certificate is only valid for localhost.localdomain Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com wrote: No

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Does that 75 megabits also apply when you are looking to connect via a public peering point? Some CDN type networks waive or minimize those requirements if you connect via a public exchange. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 12:34 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
Doh! Okay, I give up. -Kristian On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 14:36 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. The certificate is only valid for localhost.localdomain Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [WISPA] Charging for business setup

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
It really depends upon the service. Are they purchasing cable modem / dsl or fiber / t1(+/1) service The prices quoted by Robert here are true for cable modem stuff DSL T1 installs can - depending upon location go over 1K Fiber can be around $2K from Time Warner depending on location

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
a cert is literally only $20 now-adays just worth spending to get over the questions imho On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed. The certificate is only valid for localhost.localdomain Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

[WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Blake Bowers
http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm#Minnesota_Death The Isanti County Sheriff's Office said that Mark Robert Anderson, 40, was assisting in the erection of a tower for Genesis Wireless at 3389 Helium St. NW in Wyanett Township when the Lull Telehandler - with the boom fully

Re: [WISPA] Funny Website Error

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
For a single domain. It does not include all subdomains. I think it is roughly $400 for all subdomains. IE, $20 for www.google.com and $20 for google.com and another $20 for mail.google.com Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [WISPA] TDWR database doing some good already!

2010-08-30 Thread Jack Unger
Ralph, Thank you very much for helping to get the word out about the need to stay clear of TDWR frequencies. Eliminating TDWR interference certainly benefits everyone. Your help is really appreciated. jack On 8/29/2010 9:33 AM, Ralph

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
That's terrible. My thoughts go out to Marks' family. From the image it appears the soil may have been moist or soft and a wheel sunk. I can't think of many ways to get a bucket lift to tip over. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Charging for business setup

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
I haven't fully worked this lead yet, but there's 145 units and one said they can only get dialup (I'm assuming T1s as well). Seems like a pretty ripe place for the picking, but I don't want to be too out of line for people to request someone else. It should be fairly easy to wire all 145

[WISPA] Slight variations in antenna height, big path loss change

2010-08-30 Thread Fred R. Goldstein
I'm doing some path loss estimates in RadioMobile. Mainly 5.8 GHz stuff. I have a place where I'd like to run a point-to-multipoint sector as an injection feed to multiple APs in the mesh. This would need to run AirMax or Nstreme or NV2 in order to manage the traffic, but that part seems

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Olsen
No clue, Just going from what I vaguely recall someone saying... Like I said, I think I heard it here, Might have been on NANOG. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Blake Covarrubias
I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they also told me 75mbps was the magic number. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:43, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: No clue, Just going from what I vaguely recall someone saying... Like I said, I

[WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi all I was wondering if directly connecting two wireless cards would burn them. The point is not the power sent by the two cards, but if the impedance is not the right one. Indeed in the normal use with the antenna the impedance is not the same of using a direct cable from one card to

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Why would you do that? for bench testing I could see using a section of Coax with an attenuator inline. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 1:51 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Cameron Crum
It should all be 50 ohms, but you would need a big attenuator inline. Cameron On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Paolo Di Francesco paolo.difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Hi all I was wondering if directly connecting two wireless cards would burn them. The point is not the power sent by the

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
The receiver impedance should match the cable impedance (50 ohms) for best receiver performance which the manufacturers are all trying to get. Also if the cable has enough attenuation to not burn up the receiver at the far end then even if there is a mismatch at the receiver on the far end the

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
well, why not? :) I don't know if the attenuator would change the impedance story. Why would you do that? for bench testing I could see using a section of Coax with an attenuator inline. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
It should all be 50 ohms, but you would need a big attenuator inline. so, there should not be a impedance problem, right? a big attenuator...hum...what about a loong cable? ;) Bye -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform s.r.l. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo

[WISPA] WISPA Member's Directory Updated for August

2010-08-30 Thread Rick Harnish
I have updated the WISPA Member http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=170 's Directory Page. I am now keeping a Master Spreadsheet as some companies have different physical locations than what are entered into our billing server (which is where I pull the information from). Please check your company's

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
I must be missing something. I can't fiure out why you would connect two radios together for any reason other than to bench test. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, August 30,

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
We use the UNAT-30+ from Mini-Circuits (usually 3 stacked together) to test bad radios that come back, or for PtPs before we send them out. It has been helpful for tuning/benchmarking MikroTik wirelsss settings in a closed environment.

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
well, just using the usual things for non usual situations. I was considering: if I have to do more than 100 meters ethernet what would I use? well 100m of LMR400 can be a solution in some cases (yeah I know fiber, but as I said I was curious about RF cables). In a previous post I saw somebody

Re: [WISPA] Slight variations in antenna height, big path loss change

2010-08-30 Thread MDK
I won't claim any great expertise here, but I have seen the same from RM. There is some minor thing wrong with the way Fresnel is calculated that seems to cause this. If you leave the link right as it is, but change the overall size of your map, you may find that the odd up and down rssi

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread MDK
The H/V patterns DO NOT PERFECTLY OVERLAP.Duhhh. Had some strange RSSI anomalies I could not understand until I moved the antenna. Actually pointing it farther away resulted in better RSSI. There seem to be some mild nulls at or rather near the edges of the beams, where the V and H will

[WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread MDK
Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5 ghz range to reach 25 miles?Want to do full duplex 100 M ethernet connection. ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:18 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5 ghz range to reach

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Leon D. Zetekoff
On 08/30/2010 06:39 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: well, just using the usual things for non usual situations. I was considering: if I have to do more than 100 meters ethernet what would I use? well 100m of LMR400 can be a solution in some cases (yeah I know fiber, but as I said I was

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
That's horrible. I just sold them a bunch of Trango gear. While I am in no way making an attempt to be negative about this tragedy, why are they using a non-man rated piece of equipment with a makeshift man basket roped to the forklift? (seen here: www.moraminn.com/detail/61845.html) What's

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
arcnet, dude... - Original Message - From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@backwoodswireless.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable On 08/30/2010 06:39 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: well, just

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh it's a forklift, that's why. Seems obvious to not use that, but when you need to put food on the table... Absolutely terrible the son and daughter not only have to go through this, but live the rest of their lives without their father. It's tough to even think about it. On Aug 30, 2010 7:32

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread Robert West
Have LOTS of them, both the larger And smaller ones. Work great at line of site but they don't have much penetration of obstacles at all. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, August 30,

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Robert West
Sad news but seems like lack of training or not paying attention to the load limits caused that. However, the FOLLOWING News story is EPIC! Dudes caught stealing gensets! Oh HELL YES! One sad, one glad. I'm now in neutral buoyancy. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Jon Auer
On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they also told me 75mbps was the magic number. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:43, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote: No clue, Just

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Robert West
Tower thieves.. Can we install spring loaded spikes to impale the offending party and then leave them impaled on the compound fence as a warning? The British did it back in the day, it must be okay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
they will give it to you with much less than 75mbps best just to ask them :-) On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Jon Auer wrote: On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and yes I believe they also told me

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
yup 5ghz and trees don't tend to work well together... 5ghz is a pure LOS in most situations - especially w/ UBNT stuff On Aug 30, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Robert West wrote: Have LOTS of them, both the larger And smaller ones. Work great at line of site but they don't have much penetration of

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Brad Belton
Now I'm in neutral buoyancy. lolflash from the past in college NAUI classeshey it was an easy A, errr...at least a couple easy A's! This is sad news. Using the wrong tool for the job and possibly soft ground conditions caused this. Best, Brad -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
A tree or two works fine for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: yup   5ghz and trees don't tend to work well together... 5ghz is a pure LOS in most

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Glenn Kelley
I have helped a wisp get this with 700 customers and about 30mbps I have helped another get one with about 500 customers and about 50mbps So - just ask Truth is - they want to put these in - they crave new locations like you would not believe. On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
For Full Duplex you are looking at Moto PTP500 or equivalent. - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Michael Baird
Well, more like 10. The inquiry cost nothing, they will look it up and tell you if they see enough traffic from your AS to justify it or not. Regards Michael Baird On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com mailto:bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: I contacted Akamai a while

Re: [WISPA] Tower/truck death

2010-08-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
I know at our rental place here, they rent for nearly the same price... It's also a pretty good sized wisp. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Oh it's

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I thought Proxim does this too? In regards to Ubiquiti you can do 20Mhz channels and two pairs of radios (you can easily use MT to make it appear to be a layer 2 connection). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at

Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's

2010-08-30 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've got 300+Mbps and we don't have thousands of customers...but we do have 1500+. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: On Aug 30, 2010 2:53 PM, Blake Covarrubias bl...@beamspeed.com wrote: I contacted Akamai a while back about this program, and

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax Sectors

2010-08-30 Thread Robert West
Which is why I install low and have lots of AP's in order to peek around the corners. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti AirMax

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
OK, now I get what you are after. 75ohm cable will cause an impedance mismatch resulting is much higher losses that 50 ohm cable of the same length. You can add a transformer that will match 50 Ohm to 75 Ohm cable, here are a couple of examples: http://www.ham-radio.com/k6sti/match.htm. You

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Hammett
Ubiquiti M won't do what he's asking, at least not with a single link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 6:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Proxim, Ubiquiti M... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Right, they are all hdx. That's why you need two :) On Aug 30, 2010 8:51 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Ubiquiti M won't do what he's asking, at least not with a single link. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 8/30/2010 6:22 PM,

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Philip Dorr
If you can do it, look at 6Ghz. We have a Dragonwave Horizon Compact link going about 34 miles that can push up to 200Mbps full duplex. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Assuming that spectrum (frequencies open) is not a problem, what would you use in the 5

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread Mike
Actually, I think it's an innovative use. If you can afford the half duplex penalty it would be a great way to create a bridge. You could calculate the loss in 50 ohm coax of any size and length while adjusting the power output of the radios accordingly. I'd use 50 ohm cable, but even 75 ohm

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Mike
That's a pretty incredible claim. What sort of reliability are you seeing? Are you using space diversity and dual links? Phillip without making me sleuth what is the geography? I would be comfortable doing this in the desert or from mountaintops, but would worry about ducting and other fading

Re: [WISPA] (DIRECTLY) Connecting two wireless with a RF cable

2010-08-30 Thread paolo . difrancesco
Well the fun starts with 2 cables and mimo cards, meaning more than 100Mbits at distances much higher than 100m. In theory it's 300Mbps halfduplex , but I guess it's more like 100Mbps full duplex. Ah, the TX card should shoot at power=0 (tx power in the mikrotik winbox). Not sure anybody tried

Re: [WISPA] Slight variations in antenna height, big path loss change

2010-08-30 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I have seen the same, and it goes away (for me) when setting it to pull the topo data directly from the files instead of memory and setting the samples to 1000. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:05 PM, MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: I won't claim any great expertise here, but I have seen the same

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yes, the Proxim GX series will do 100Mbps FDX. QB is HDX - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

2010-08-30 Thread Robert West
Sadly no. At half that distance, yes. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 8:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

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