Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work going straight up from the facia/gable mount instead of continuing the bend to get back over the roof? I would think that it would be stronger and more rigid if the bends were all between the mounting points. Perhaps I am

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Mount extensions

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
Obviously, my ASCII art skills are lacking. :) You are correct. Josh Luthman wrote: I think you mean straight up from the j-arm. ASCII art didn't turn out from what I see. On 8/27/09, J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com wrote: I don't understand the need for the full U bend. Why wouldn't it work

Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo repair

2009-08-27 Thread J. Vogel
This is true for me as well. I haven't seen a seal fail, and I do not over-tighten the nuts. However, I HAVE had several fail after hail knocks a hole in the top of the cover, and then over time, water is funneled into the radio. I have found a couple of radios that were half full of water (or

Re: [WISPA] TP--UPS-DC-12-9

2009-08-01 Thread J. Vogel
The RB411's I have been purchasing show input voltage under /system health. John Eje Gustafsson wrote: I do not believe the new boards does this do they? The RB230's and I think as well the RB532 could/would over SNMP report power levels and temps maybe the newer boards can't report temp but

Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or isitgettingbetter?

2009-07-31 Thread J. Vogel
I would use a RB411 as the canary board. cheap, reliable, scriptable, AND has input voltage monitoring Tom DeReggi wrote: snip Any good ideas on how to tell when the power goes out? For example, if a breaker pops, 24 hours later the battery runs dead and still creates an outage, if

Re: [WISPA] OT: Cordless VOIP Phone

2009-07-07 Thread J. Vogel
Interesting... My Panasonic DECT 6.0 phones have better range than any other cordless phone I have owned, including a couple of 900mhz ones. John Jeremy Parr wrote: Yeah, I have deployed quite a bit of DECT, but if he isn't running any 900mhz, then a Senao is a much better option. The range

Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance

2009-07-01 Thread J. Vogel
What cards are 4th generation and which ones are 6th? How do you tell which is which? e...@wisp-router.com wrote: All Atheros cards are capable of doing this. Just keep in mind that the 4th gen cards even if they are set in 5/10MHz mode for broadcast still listen to 20MHz wide channel. The

Re: [WISPA] Splash Page

2009-04-21 Thread J. Vogel
I have a splash page such as what you are describing ( http://vogent.net:88/ ) but no CPE insurance program. John Ray Jean wrote: Does anyone have a page they use when you cut off a customer for non-payment and let them know that their internet has been suspended. Letting them know what to

Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread J. Vogel
Got a link or a model number for that new Kill-a-Watt? I can't find any info about it on their site. John Marlon K. Schafer wrote: My biggest site (something like 9 radios now) is drawing under 20 watts these days. Closer to 15 if my memory serves. To get that number I used one of the new

Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread J. Vogel
Does it have ethernet, remote monitoring, or power-cycle capability? John Scott Carullo wrote: P4400 KILL A WATT is what I have Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 12:34 PM

Re: [WISPA] electricity usage calculator

2009-04-20 Thread J. Vogel
. :) John Vickie Edwards wrote: ThinkGeek has 3 different models of the Kill-a-Watt, as well as another meter-type gadget: http://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=kill+a+wattx=0y=0 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday

Re: [WISPA] Promotion

2009-04-16 Thread J. Vogel
My thought is that you are unlikely to get much of a response from potential customers, although whatever response you did get would be a strong incentive to any WISP in the area, and it is certainly doable, Mikrotik could easily handle it. My reasoning is that all of my AP's broadcast a domain

Re: [WISPA] Promotion

2009-04-16 Thread J. Vogel
LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer via their web sites. My own site is far from perfect, but it has been a valuable asset in procuring business. Blake Bowers wrote: ROFL... I take WISPS to task for their web page, and you bring mine

Re: [WISPA] Promotion

2009-04-16 Thread J. Vogel
donor card today. - Original Message - From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Promotion LOL - I agree that a lot of WISP's don't make it clear who/where they are and what they offer

Re: [WISPA] Promotion

2009-04-16 Thread J. Vogel
To borrow an often used quote from Randy on another list... I encourage all of my competitors to do this. John Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I'd bet more often that is comes down to who you DON'T want to know. Brian -- John Vogel - jvo...@vogent.net http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-21 Thread J. Vogel
Where did you look? Mike Hammett wrote: Someone once asked me what was in their area, so I looked. There were I'm recalling at least 4 major international carriers right in their town must have been a landing station. It pays to know what's in your area. ;-) - Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] Cost of bandwidth

2009-03-21 Thread J. Vogel
Charles, I would love to live in the world you describe here. :) Bandwidth cost dwarfs credit card processing cost where I live. It also seems very optimistic to put 1000 customers on a 20mb link. At best, I would think that if they are consuming ~20mbps, that you should have at least twice

[WISPA] FYI - more news on stimulous/broadband

2009-02-10 Thread J. Vogel
Net neutrality and the broadband provisions in the stimulus bill US Senator Dianne Feinstein hopes to update President Barack Obama's $838bn economic stimulus package so that American ISPs can deter child pornography, copyright infringement, and other unlawful activity by way of reasonable

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update

2009-01-30 Thread J. Vogel
Travis Johnson wrote: Also, one more quick thing it would be helpful if you would post the Paypal address and mailing address at the bottom of every one of your update emails... to make it easier for people. You could even post a direct link to the Paypal account inside your email. :)

Re: [WISPA] Barracuda outbounds SPAM filter any good?

2009-01-08 Thread J. Vogel
My webmail software is Squirrelmail, which does put the authenticated user in the header, but that didn't come back in the bounces (that I saw anyway) but I was able to find the compromised account by searching the Sent folders for some of the bounced recipient addresses. Picking an address that

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread J. Vogel
Another way of looking at it is that if deflation is occurring, and you have committed to pay for the CPE via leasing, you will be using future dollars that are worth more to pay for them, (e.g. at the time I commit to paying $100 for a cpe, each of those $100 would purchase a loaf of bread, but

Re: [WISPA] Congress may help smaller ISPs grow

2009-01-03 Thread J. Vogel
will be up in price maybe as much as 20-30% in a year or two if things don't change soon. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: J. Vogel jvo...@vogent.com Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:44:48 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Congress may

Re: [WISPA] Winter connectivity issues

2008-12-17 Thread J. Vogel
14 miles is not too far to cause interference. On Wed, December 17, 2008 10:16 am, Mark McElvy wrote: My closest tower to this one is 14 miles. We are fairly rural. Mark -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K.

Re: [WISPA] Vista VPN Question

2008-11-14 Thread J. Vogel
I think that link is what the OP needed, specifically to uncheck use default gateway on remote network in the advanced properties for IPv4 (and IPv6 if that is being used also). If the vpn server is using DHCP to assign the vpn connection an IP address in the netblock of the remote network, there

[WISPA] Power Supplies

2008-09-12 Thread J. Vogel
Some time in the last month, someone on one of the lists I follow posted a link to wall-wart type 15v or 18v DC power supplies in the $4 or $5 dollar range. I have lost the link. Can somebody point me in the right direction, or possibly have recommendations for a source for such power supplies

Re: [WISPA] Metered Broadband

2008-05-01 Thread J. Vogel
It seems to me that in the ensuing discussion of this, there are several models proposed that do not take into account any costs other than bandwidth cost. I would think that one should calculate what it costs to aquire and maintain a customer, including office/support/billing/equipment etc...

Re: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.

2008-03-17 Thread J. Vogel
, 2.4gig cameras. The proprietary ones that are not wifi or ip cams. George J. Vogel wrote: Is it possible for interference to prevent a signal from showing up in a site survey in Windows Zero Configuration utility? I set up a relay AP at a home yesterday, the AP being on the roof

[WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.

2008-03-12 Thread J. Vogel
Is it possible for interference to prevent a signal from showing up in a site survey in Windows Zero Configuration utility? I set up a relay AP at a home yesterday, the AP being on the roof of the garage (couldn't get a link to my tower from the house). The wireless card I put in the customers

Re: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.

2008-03-12 Thread J. Vogel
interferer in the house or garage? chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything. Is it possible for interference

Re: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem to know anything.

2008-03-12 Thread J. Vogel
look at the spectrum? Any chances of a local interferer in the house or garage? chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Some days I don't seem

[WISPA] IPTV - SkyAngel

2008-01-12 Thread J. Vogel
I have received several inquiries from customers and potential customers in recent days asking if their internet connection received through me would handle SkyAngel IPTV. SkyAngel is a family/religious television and radio network that to this point had been utilizing one of Dish Network's

Re: [WISPA] Linux command question

2007-12-15 Thread J. Vogel
It is not sed, but this ought to work... perl -pi -e 's/Templates//sgi'/path_to_directory_containing files/* You could also (recommended) have it create a backup file for every file edited (Google perl command line editing) or you could also find all the files containing the word templates

Re: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs

2007-11-23 Thread J. Vogel
Incidentally, my experience is like others have mentioned... you should make plans to be available when you turn them off, because they will be making contact. I have on more than one occasion had people show up at my door, cash in hand, within 20 minutes of me having redirected them, and I live

Re: [WISPA] Non-paying Subs

2007-11-23 Thread J. Vogel
Using Iptables, it is fairly straightforward, and can be accomplished in Mikrotik as well. I set up rules in a separate chain to allow access to certain things, such as my payment server, DNS, and a couple of other things i wanted to let even the restricted people access but then direct all port

[WISPA] Topeka KS

2007-09-21 Thread J. Vogel
Anybody serving Topeka KS area? I have a possible client for you. -- John Vogel - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises, LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas **

Re: [WISPA] Merchant Services

2007-09-05 Thread J. Vogel
Mike Hammett wrote: I'm speaking to my bank as well as looking at QuickBooks and PayPal for merchant services (CC processing). Opinions? I have been using e-onlinedata/authorize.net for a couple of years and have been very happy with them. They have a lower rate for ISPs and webhosts

[WISPA] Trade Organizations and Consumer Mentality

2007-09-03 Thread J. Vogel
I have seen several posts in the last couple of days made by non-members of WISPA stating how they could not become a part of the organization until such time as the organization changes in some way to meet their requirements. How is it that non-members, people who are unwilling to part with a

Re: [WISPA] In support of legal operation

2007-09-02 Thread J. Vogel
Please expand upon this statement... I simply asked WISPA to publish a position on illegal operation. That doesn't mean to push it off on some code of ethics. What kind of written statement would carry more weight than the code of ethics? Please describe how any such written statement would

Re: [WISPA] In support of legal operation

2007-09-02 Thread J. Vogel
It doesn't really help, when attempting to clarify a misunderstood or confusing statement, to say the same thing over again. You asserted, in your posting, that the position of WISPA as stated in the code of ethics, did not meet the requirement in your opinion of being the official stance of

Re: [WISPA] 2.4ghz antennas

2007-08-24 Thread J. Vogel
I have a couple of the TR-24H-120-16 Product.aspx?Id=61629view=4 antennas in service for a few months, so far I am very happy with them. They look to be well built and are performing to expectation. I haven't had them long enough to give a full recommendation, but so far real good. Travis

[WISPA] USF billing question

2007-08-08 Thread J. Vogel
I know this has been discussed before, possibly not on this list though, and I haven't been able to find the previous discussion. I have noticed a charge for USF on my bill from my upstream provider (SBC/ATT). I have bonded T1s from them, no phone service. Is a USF charge appropriate and

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Update on T1 Mobile Wireless Service

2007-08-01 Thread J. Vogel
After having read through the news releases, the impression I got was that the hope for making money was based solely on stock options and preferred purchasing (of stock) opportunities. There was no discussion that I noticed about making money on delivering Internet Access to the masses, for

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts

2007-07-12 Thread J. Vogel
on top of tank and adjustable legs for leveling.It has been up there 4 years with no problems.It was easy to install approx 1hour. Ray Hill - Original Message - From: J. Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 6:12 PM Subject

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts

2007-07-12 Thread J. Vogel
/ cheap :) LOL - Original Message - From: J. Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts I don't intend to ruffle any feathers, nor do I direct this at any one individual

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts

2007-07-12 Thread J. Vogel
Clint, Thank you for the civil reply. You are still making assumptions which are in fact un-founded. Nowhere in my post did I state the weights and dimensions of what I have secured to towers using magnets, the number and size of magnets, their placement on the towers, proximity to areas where

Re: [WISPA] Water Tower Mounts

2007-07-11 Thread J. Vogel
Carl Shivers wrote: We are going to be mounting Panel Sector antennas to 2 Water Towers. One tower is ideal with a rail that has been designed for pipe mounting. The other is not so kind. It simply has a ladder up the side and over the top, no catwalk. We were thinking about using one of those

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-08 Thread J. Vogel
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 8:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Does that work on Win98? John Vogel CHUCK PROFITO wrote: Why knock your self out, use the two finger lock, windows key and L Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV

[WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-07 Thread J. Vogel
Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able to turn off their Internet Access when not being used.. they have a couple of computers in their office that unauthorized people may have access to when they

Re: [WISPA] Hotspot setup

2007-05-07 Thread J. Vogel
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:41 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot setup Is it possible to use MT Hotspot feature with clients that already have a public static IP address? I have a client that wants to be able

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread J. Vogel
... I wish now that I had paid more attention in History classes Which of the founding fathers said something to the effect that the proper response of the citizenry to an unjust law was to ignore/disobey it? John Vogel Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

Re: [WISPA] CALEA compliance methods

2007-03-26 Thread J. Vogel
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 19:49:43 -0400, Adam Greene wrote extracting a snippet from Adam's interesting prose A: No. The petition proposes CALEA coverage of only broadband Internet access service and broadband telephony service. Other Internet-based services, including those classified as

Re: [WISPA] outside connection

2007-03-16 Thread J. Vogel
I have used these with some success. http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=565-0107R=565%2D0107sid=45F9DE0075EFE17F John Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We sometimes have to move people's radios because of tree growth, changing towers, etc. The biggest pain is having to re-run

Re: [WISPA] outside connection

2007-03-16 Thread J. Vogel
-39574282?sourceid=3 and mastic and super 33+. Brian J. Vogel wrote: I have used these with some success. http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=565-0107R=565%2D0107sid=45F9DE0075EFE17F John Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, We sometimes have to move people's radios because

[WISPA] UHF tower co-location

2007-03-12 Thread J. Vogel
looking for someone that knows more about this than me (which may be most everybody) to give me a quick heads-up.. Up to this point, all of the access points I have deployed have been on water towers or buildings which did not have any other significant RF equipment on them. I may have an

Re: [WISPA] Following the FCC rules ?????

2007-02-18 Thread J. Vogel
John, Maybe I missed something, but how do you get from Travis' statement that any user could do it, to questioning Travis as to whether that was a claim to have done it himself? John Vogel John Scrivner wrote: Travis, Are saying you are using 5.4 GHz radios in the US? Scriv Travis

Re: [WISPA] 900 Mhz Mikrotik SR9 Clients

2006-12-01 Thread J. Vogel
Does that BreezeACCESS CPE do 5 mile *NECLoS shots? Usable links that is... Serious question... I don't know. If it does, I will have to re-think how I am doing things John * Not Even Close to Line of Sight... Patrick Leary wrote: Dang, that's as much as $100 more than a real BreezeACCESS

Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread J. Vogel
It looks to me like all that is needed is a slip ring for power. Surely a WISP will be able to figure out how to get data to/from the rotating units without using wires. :) John Brett Hays wrote: Wow, an ethernet slip ring...bet that could cause all sorts of problems. - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Mini-PCI self interference

2006-11-19 Thread J. Vogel
will be fixing this in the 3.0 release. Travis Microserv J. Vogel wrote: I finally got a chance to play with the SR9 cards I got in last week. Installed them in a RB532 running 2.9.30, along with one Prism nl-2511mp plus and a RouterBoard r52 (Atheros chipset?). Not working. First off

[WISPA] SR9 problems..

2006-11-18 Thread J. Vogel
I finally got a chance to play with the SR9 cards I got in last week. Installed them in a RB532 running 2.9.30, along with one Prism nl-2511mp plus and a RouterBoard r52 (Atheros chipset?). Not working. First off, the SR9s are big enough that they don't fit everwhere you might think they

Re: [WISPA] Insurance for use of bucket truck or lift for installs.

2006-11-16 Thread J. Vogel
Travis brings up a good point I think. When I purchased insurance on my bucket truck, I specifically asked the agent about possible problems with it being a bucket truck, and he assured me that as far as the automotive liability insurance was concerned, the bucket had no effect, as any mis-haps

[WISPA] MT Bridge quits bridging.

2006-09-26 Thread J. Vogel
I have a Mikrotik unit that had been running pretty flawlessly for almost a year that has failed 3 times in the last 2 1/2 days or so. The unit is a RB532 with MT 2.9.28 on it, 32 MB Ram, 265Mhz processor, Atheros AR5213 radio bridged to ether1, WDS, associated to its sister unit for a ptp link.

Re: [WISPA] Missouri Crane service

2006-06-28 Thread J. Vogel
Correction: I should have said... about 75 miles WEST of St. Louis.. J. Vogel wrote: Sorry for the noise for those of you not familiar with Missouri, but does one of the Wisps on this list operating in Missouri have any recommendations for crane services I should contact to assist in removing

Re: [WISPA] Missouri Crane service

2006-06-28 Thread J. Vogel
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 2:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Missouri Crane service Correction: I should have said... about 75 miles WEST of St. Louis.. J. Vogel wrote: Sorry for the noise for those of you not familiar

Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy

2006-05-09 Thread J. Vogel
. It seems to me that somebody posted a link to such a thing a couple of weeks or months ago. John Vogel Travis Johnson wrote: HI, We have used many of these, but they aren't sub-$100... http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html Travis Microserv J. Vogel wrote: I seem to recall that someone

Re: [WISPA] I need a cheap watchdog/reboot thingy

2006-05-09 Thread J. Vogel
/reboot thingy HI, We have used many of these, but they aren't sub-$100... http://www.digital-loggers.com/EPC.html Travis Microserv J. Vogel wrote: I seem to recall that someone posted a link to a sub-$100 ping watchdog/reboot unit on one of these lists recently, but I cannot locate

Re: [WISPA] Mounting pole size

2005-09-22 Thread J. Vogel
I have used 1.5 (actually ~2 o.d.) galvanized water pipe to do this, works great. John Scott Reed wrote: Thanks for the responses. I had originally thought 4 something, but looks like I will look at 1.5 and/or 2. I like that, Johnny. $150 to paint the pole brown and the antenna grid and

Re: [WISPA] Looking for...

2005-08-22 Thread J. Vogel
I am doing this without MT.. but I do have Linux running a transparent bridge between my customers and my core router. Use iptables to redirect (DNAT) the src IP address web requests to my webserver (I redirect requests to port 80 to my webservers address on port 88) and then have the virtual host