Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

I've been watching the internet tv for the past 9 months. CNN, FOX, NBC, etc all have their news online. It would be great if those were cachable. Just like on tv a lot of the news bits are over and over again and why should we have to keep paying each view. The content providers like akamai, e

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

MTs implementation is very simple. Not a whole lot to configure, but thats what is great about it. Also, if your network is moving 250 gig every 4 hours, that don't mean everything will be cached. ie. CNN has a cache time of 0, so it won't be cached anyways. -- *

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

You can build a good squid box with lots of memory and fast hard drives and get good results. The squid setup is also nearly infinitely tunable, as opposed to the ones in Mikrotik and StarOS which have a pretty vanilla configuration. Being able to tune the cache parameters helps a lot, alon

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

> The people that we had the most problems with were web designers who's > sites were cached and they couldn't easily see their changes. > We always told then to add no cache to their sites. Thats an easy one to fix. Tell them to press [CTRL] F5. Thats all it takes on virtually any standards com

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Keep in mind that if you move 250 gig, that does not mean that it will cache that. CNN is an exaxmple that has a cache time of 0 seconds, so it never caches it.That type of thing.I have never had a major issue with MT caching services. Works VERY good. -- *

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Hi, Are you somehow redirecting traffic to the MT box, or having all the traffic go through the box? Cache hit rates are going to depend on the size of the network... a 250GB drive would only cache about 4 hours of http traffic on my network... hit rates would be less than 5% I would guess.

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

You can do this as well with Mikrotik. MT is very, very simple. We have seen avg savings of between 20-40%. With 25-30% being avg. Also, you can specify what sites you want to cache, typically done by IP, but you could also say that you only want to cache sites that are on different areas

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

> What I'd LOVE to figure out how to set up is a spoke and hub cache system. Squid (and probably other caches) support something similar, in the form of parent and child caches. It sorta works backwards from what you described, but the net benefit would be similar. Basically, you set up caches at

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

e all of the traffic go back to the main site all of the time. > But cache's don't work well for small, low volume sites. > > Oh well, another project for someday. > marlon > > - Original Message - > From: Travis Johnson > To: WISPA Genera

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Yeah. I don't think they do any cache units anymore. marlon - Original Message - From: "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > S

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

al List Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server Tom, You can find all kinds of information if you do searches on squid. It's a very popular caching system that runs on *nix. The amount of RAM is directly related to the size of

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

ED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > Any stats, on how much RAM is a good amount to allocated for the cache > servers, per user served? > > Obviously, a large fast DiskDrive, is need

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:14 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > > >>> use the "shift, refresh" trick. >> That was a helpful tip. Is that just an IE6 thin

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

cated on a dedicated appliance. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > When we had tha

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server >> use the "shift, refresh" trick. > > That was a helpful tip. Is that just an IE6 thing? > > Tom DeReggi

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

ist" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > When we had that trouble we just had to teach them to use the "shift, > refresh" trick. forced the cache to load the new page now instead of when > it n

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

what they demand. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] An

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

ISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server The people that we had the most problems with were web designers who's sites were cached and they couldn't easily see their changes. We always told then

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > The people that we had the most problems with were web designers who's > sites were cached and they couldn't easily see their cha

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

d E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: >> So is it safer/better to avoid caching servers altogether? > > About 99% of y

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

al Message - From: "Patrick Nix Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > So is it safer/better to avoid caching servers altogether? > > _

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

again. It worked very well and was really easy to configure, adjust. marlon - Original Message - From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache ser

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

uly 10, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > When I was an ISP, that 1% got me in real trouble. They scream loudly. > > On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:03 PM, David E. Smith wrote: > >> Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: >>> So is it safer/better to avoid ca

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > > When I was an ISP, that 1% got me in real trouble. They scream loudly. > > On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:03 PM, David E. Smith wrote: > >> Patrick Nix

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

PA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server When I was an ISP, that 1% got me in real trouble. They scream loudly. On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:03 PM, David E. Smith wrote: > Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: >> So is it safer/better to avoid caching servers altogether? > >

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David E. Smith > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > > Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: > >> In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to se

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

When I was an ISP, that 1% got me in real trouble. They scream loudly. On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:03 PM, David E. Smith wrote: Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: So is it safer/better to avoid caching servers altogether? About 99% of your users won't notice, or know, or care, that you've got anything like

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: > So is it safer/better to avoid caching servers altogether? About 99% of your users won't notice, or know, or care, that you've got anything like that in your network. The savings in bandwidth (and, to a lesser extent, money not spent on bandwidth) can help you out of a t

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:07 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server > > Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: > >> In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to setup a >> cache server. Any thoughts or suggest

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: > In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to setup a > cache server. Any thoughts or suggesti

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

Patrick Nix Jr. wrote: > In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to setup a > cache server. Any thoughts or suggestions on which one to use? I know this is the popular answer to everything on this list, but Mikrotik RouterOS has a decent, and dead-simple to use, proxy/cache

Re: [WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

We used to have a caching server. You may also want to check out akamai They place their content servers at your noc so some content is closer to your customer. During dial up days we used both akamai and a squid caching server and it helped. Haven't done it for our bb system but also are going t

[WISPA] Any thoughts on a decent cache server

In another attempt to light the bandwidth load we are going to setup a cache server. Any thoughts or suggestions on which one to use? __ Patrick Nix, Jr., csweb.net (918) 235-0414 http://www.csweb.net E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTE