Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - changeoftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-13 Thread Scott Carullo
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been great to see how you have turned into seasoned Canopy provider SO i must assume your opinion of the product has changed recently... Gino A. Villarini g

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-12 Thread Travis Johnson
- Original Message - From: "Gino Villarini" g...@aeronetpr.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - changeoftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-12 Thread Scott Carullo
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed This has been an outstanding thread I have enjoyed

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - changeoftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-12 Thread Travis Johnson
2009 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP Travis It has been great to see how you have turned into seasoned Canopy provider SO i must assume your opinion of the product has changed recently...

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

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Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

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Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-11 Thread Gino Villarini
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Hi, I think that's

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change oftopic -- customers / AP

2009-04-11 Thread Scottie Arnett
wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed I do see Travis's point about the longer range shots, however. I've got a 35, 45 and 65 mile shots with StarOS and they work just fine but only put out about 18-25meg at those distances. That's enough for me

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-11 Thread Charles Wu
AM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP With VoIP is it really a bandwidth issue or is it a latency issue? My experience is mostly with Skype and not SIP/H323 but what I've seen

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-11 Thread Charles Wu
:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP Or AP/subscriber ratio is super low where we dont usually have more than a dozen or so but this is necessary for selling optimal speed and providing quality voip

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-11 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
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[WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
All, This post is for those looking at putting in high throughput unlicensed radios. I can talk all day about the advantages of licensed (guarantee of 35-40db fade margin for starters) but I want to throw out some real world numbers I am seeing. Don't get me wrong, there is always a place

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Brad Belton
: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed All, This post is for those looking at putting in high throughput unlicensed radios. I can talk all day about the advantages of licensed (guarantee of 35-40db fade margin for starters) but I want to throw out some real world numbers I am seeing. Don't

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Gino Villarini
10, 2009 10:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Ok, I'll bite. What UL radio set is going to produce 150Mbps FDX and at what RF spectrum cost? Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Ok, I'll bite. What UL radio set is going to produce 150Mbps FDX and at what RF spectrum cost? Brad -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Brad Belton
:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Just the PTP600 that I think off ... 30 mhz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Gino Villarini
, April 10, 2009 9:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Just the PTP600 that I think off ... 30 mhz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Just the PTP600 that I think off ... 30 mhz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Gino Villarini
: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed From what I understand the PTP600 is an OFDM best effort radio. If the RF environment is favorable then it will pass data. If not then it slows down and/or starts dropping packets

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
, April 10, 2009 11:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed IMHO the PTP600 is the best UL radio in the market... Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
-Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:20 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed IMHO the PTP600

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Gino Villarini
787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 1:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Jeff, I think

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread 3-dB Networks
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Jeff, First let me say we LOVE our Trango licensed links. However, the one issue you are not taking into account

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Jeff Ehman
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 12:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed Jeff, I think you have made a fine point. I realized about a year ago that with the cost of licensed links coming down, there wasn't

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Charles Wu
I do see Travis's point about the longer range shots, however. I've got a 35, 45 and 65 mile shots with StarOS and they work just fine but only put out about 18-25meg at those distances. That's enough for me, but I can see where you would want more capacity and I suppose that within that

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread jp
That's definitely overlooked. We basically don't have a choice and CAN'T install anymore backhauls in the 5.7-5.8 band at many of our tower sites as the spectrum just isn't available. It's used for a mix of p2mp or ptp links. And it's been that way for many years for us. We have freed up some

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
=exchange+20administrative+20group+20+28fydibohf23spdlt+29_cn=recipients_cn=char...@converge-tech.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed I do see Travis's point about the longer range shots

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Travis Johnson
e-tech.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed I do see Travis's point about the longer range shots, however. I've got a 35, 45 and 65 mile shots with StarOS and

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Tom DeReggi
: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed I agree... I would probably purchase a few of the PTP600 radio sets if they were priced more in-line with current offerings of the licensed products. :) Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: Which is why Moto/Ortho needs to look

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed

2009-04-10 Thread Scott Carullo
: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed I do see Travis's point about the longer range shots, however. I've got a 35, 45 and 65 mile shots with StarOS and they work just fine but only put out about 18-25meg at those distances. That's enough for me, but I can see where you would

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-10 Thread Charles Wu
: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed This has been an outstanding thread I have enjoyed reading - and learned a bit in the process... thanks. I'll just add that while we are trying to keep the numbers trained

Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed - change of topic -- customers / AP

2009-04-10 Thread Travis Johnson
...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] High Throughput Licensed vs. Unlicensed This has been an outstanding thread I have enjoyed reading - and learned a bit in the process... thanks. I'll just add that while we are trying